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Local Government (Religious etc. Observances) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Friday, 13 March 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Cormack. The answering member was Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon.
Lords committee stage. Clauses 1 to 3 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

760 cc837-864 

Session

2014-15

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Local Government (Religious etc Observances) Bill 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Monday, 19 January 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee nineteenth report.
Wednesday, 4 March 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Earl of Clancarty | 760 c837 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Clancarty

1: Clause 1, page 1, leave out lines 4 to 15

Earl of Clancarty | 760 cc837-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Amendment 2 is consequential to Amendment ...


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Baroness D'Souza | 760 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I should remind your Lordships that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 2 to...

Lord Avebury | 760 cc838-841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, and the Minister for the meeting we had ...

Lord Elton | 760 c841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is not necessary to support the racist remarks of some councillors to resist this am...

Bishop of Leicester | 760 c841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I should declare an interest, having just led the Prayers in this Chamber.

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Lord Avebury | 760 c841 (Link to this contribution)

But these amendments have nothing to do with Remembrance Day services.

Lord Cashman | 760 cc841-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I preface my remarks in support of the amendments by declaring an interest as a patron ...

Baroness Flather | 760 cc842-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I want to draw attention to what the noble Lord, Lord Elton, said. There is a ve...

Lord Cormack | 760 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for intervening and am grateful to the noble Baroness, but this Bill allows that to h...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 760 c843 (Link to this contribution)

As regards there being a party line on this side which is—

Baroness Flather | 760 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I had not finished speaking. I am glad to hear what the noble Lord said but it is not...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 760 c843 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the avoidance of doubt, as regards my reflecting a party line on this side of the H...

Lord True | 760 c844 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene as a leader of a local authority. I declare an interest as leader of the Lo...

Lord Avebury | 760 c844 (Link to this contribution)

Is there any reason whatever why those matters should not be dealt with outside the ambit of the ...

Lord True | 760 c844 (Link to this contribution)

They do take place at the start of the meeting. Everybody in a free society can meet whenever the...

Lord Cashman | 760 c844 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord clarify to the House that I am right in suggesting that he is not implying th...

Lord True | 760 c845 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am certainly not saying that. However, I would vastly prefer it if the National Secular Soc...

Baroness Flather | 760 c845 (Link to this contribution)

I take issue with the noble Lord’s remark about bringing division where there is no division. Thi...

Lord True | 760 c845 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wanted to conclude my remarks but I must respond to those comments. My local authorit...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 760 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the right reverend Prelate, I also have a declaration to make. I am a Christian—a ...

Lord Taverne | 760 c846 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to put the argument in a wider context for a moment. The reason why theocratic s...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 760 c846 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many of your Lordships will remember the late Lord Orr-Ewing. He had a relative in the ...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 760 c847 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may reply briefly to the point that my noble friend Lord Taverne made. It is ...

Lord Hughes of Woodside | 760 c847 (Link to this contribution)

I will not delay the Committee long. For all my life, I have been an avowed atheist. I have no pr...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 760 cc847-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is often the case that the power of religion is thought to be harnessed for a mistak...

Lord Kilclooney | 760 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the most religious part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland, we have no establis...

Baroness Eaton | 760 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am an elected member of a council that does not have prayers or any time for reflecti...

Lord Hardie | 760 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, so far there has been reference to time for prayers. In fact, if one looks at new Secti...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 760 cc849-850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as an elected councillor in the London Borough of Lewisham. We do...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 760 cc850-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for this opportunity to discuss both the broad intentions of the Bill—to ...

Lord Avebury | 760 c851 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend but I would like an answer to the question that...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 760 cc852-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, nothing in the Bill would prevent that. This is about choice at a local level. As we ha...

Lord Cormack | 760 cc854-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to my noble friend for his robust and totally convincing defenc...

Earl of Clancarty | 760 cc855-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken in this debate and who have made powerful contributio...

Lord Avebury | 760 c856 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Avebury

6: Clause 1, page 1, line 16, leave out from beginning to end o...

Lord Avebury | 760 cc856-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 6 would leave out new Section 138B which the Bill proposes to insert into the...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 760 c857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must advise the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to...

Earl of Clancarty | 760 cc857-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have little against the contents of proposed new Section 138B. I think I am probably ...

Lord Cashman | 760 c859 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, and I will not repeat the evidence that...

Lord True | 760 c859 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard from noble Lords who have spoken so far that they believe that it is perf...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 760 cc859-860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the previous group of amendments, I do not think that any of the amendments in thi...

Baroness Flather | 760 c860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard how councillors go to functions such as celebrations of Diwali and Eid, w...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 760 c860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again I thank noble Lords for our debate and I want to clarify again the Government’s s...

Baroness Flather | 760 c860 (Link to this contribution)

Very briefly, I have seen these festivals take place and I have attended them, but I am trying to...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 760 cc860-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is not often that I beg to disagree with the noble Baroness, but in many cases councils suppor...

Lord Cormack | 760 c862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, for withdrawing his amendment in the pre...

Lord Cashman | 760 c862 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to make something absolutely clear for the Committee. The noble Lord, quite rightly, ...

Lord Cormack | 760 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that anything I or any other noble Lord has said in this debate, or on a...

Lord Avebury | 760 c863 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for the unexpected compliments and for the courte...

Lord Cormack | 760 c863 (Link to this contribution)

As I tried to say a few minutes ago, this Bill seeks to put matters beyond doubt. Until the Bone ...

Lord Avebury | 760 c864 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to my noble friend, I did not think it was beyond doubt. I thought Section 111(1) di...

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