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EU: Police and Criminal Justice Measures

Debate on Tuesday, 23 July 2013, in the House of Lords, led by Lord McNally. The answering member was Lord Taylor of Holbeach.
Lords motion to consider that the United Kingdom should opt out of all European Union police and criminal justice measures adopted before December 2009 and should seek to rejoin measures where it is in the national interest to do so; takes note of the Government’s proposals in Cm 8671; and invites the European Union Committee to report to the House on the matter before the end of October, before the Government opens formal discussions with the Commission, Council and other Member States prior to the Government’s formal application to rejoin measures in accordance with Article 10(5) of Protocol 36 to the Treaty on the functioning of the European Union. Agreed to on division (216 to 104).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

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Session

2013-14

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
EU police and criminal justice measures: the UK's 2014 opt-out decision. European Union Committee (HL) thirteenth report.
Monday, 22 April 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Decision pursuant to Article 10 of Protocol 36 to The Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union
Tuesday, 9 July 2013
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Deposited Paper DEP2013-1390
Friday, 26 July 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord McNally | 747 cc1232-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, today this House has the opportunity to debate and vote upon the Government’s proposal ...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 747 c1236 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, will he give us a categorical assurance that the opt-out will n...


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Lord McNally | 747 c1237 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is a hypothetical and we could spend the rest of the night on it. I have made a ve...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 cc1237-1240 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I address the procedural issues covered by the amendment to the Government’s Mot...

Lord Bowness | 747 cc1240-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Hannay of Chiswick, with whom I, as the then...

Lord Richard | 747 cc1242-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will deal with a small point to start off with. As I understand it, no impact assessm...

Lord Sharkey | 747 cc1244-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, today’s version of the Government’s Motion asks your Lordships to approve the block opt...

Lord Williamson of Horton | 747 cc1246-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest which is in the register. Because of the advisory time limit I in...

Viscount Eccles | 747 cc1248-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a recently appointed member of Sub-Committee E. It has been an interesting baptism...

Lord Tomlinson | 747 cc1249-1251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, over recent months, so many things have been said on so many occasions about opt-outs t...

Lord Taverne | 747 cc1251-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, would have voted for the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, if the...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 747 cc1252-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a member of the Joint Committee I was surprised that neither in the Statement to Par...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 747 cc1254-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, with whom I so often find mys...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 747 c1255 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must declare an interest, as a member of EU Sub-Committee E, one of the two sub-commi...

Lord Richard | 747 c1255 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, since the noble Lord quoted me, I thank him for giving way. He says that the purpose of...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 747 c1255 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord reads the Motion before the House, he will see exactly what it is. It gives Mem...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 c1256 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, earlier in the noble Lord’s speech, he congratulated me on the wisdom of not putting my...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 747 cc1256-7 (Link to this contribution)

That is true, but it would have been unwise to have proceeded with a black-and-white decision alo...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 747 cc1257-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my old friend the Minister was right on one thing, anyway—the European Union Select Com...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 747 cc1259-1261 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pure joy to follow the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, and also to be able to say tha...

Lord Blackwell | 747 c1260 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the change in wording of the government Motion poses me with a dilemma. Although I whol...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 c1260 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. If the report started with that, it is odd t...

Lord Blackwell | 747 c1260 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord might like to note that the phrase is in the summary at the front. I will explain ...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 747 c1260 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Lord not agree that a measure such as the European arrest warrant is not a transf...

Lord Blackwell | 747 c1262 (Link to this contribution)

No, my Lords, I would not agree, because it comes under the jurisdiction of the European Union. A...

Lord Liddle | 747 c1262 (Link to this contribution)

What is the point of having parliamentary sovereignty if you cannot use it to catch criminals who...

Lord Blackwell | 747 cc1262-3 (Link to this contribution)

There is no reason why the UK cannot co-operate with other countries to do exactly that. It does ...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 cc1263-4 (Link to this contribution)

Well, my Lords, that was the authentic voice of dogmatic anti-Europeanism and Euroscepticism. Cle...

Viscount Eccles | 747 c1264 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps it may be of some help to say that the Minister who is set to reply from the Front Bench ...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 cc1264-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the Minister is very grateful for the defence which the noble Viscount has just gi...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 747 cc1266-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was also a member of the Select Committee on the opt-out decision, under the wise and...

Lord Judd | 747 cc1267-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have known the noble Lord, Lord Stoneham, for a number of years and we have become go...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 747 c1268 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, whom I have known for many years, but he is making a totally fal...

Lord Judd | 747 cc1268-9 (Link to this contribution)

Similarly, I respect the noble Lord who has just intervened, but I ask him to read the reports to...

Baroness O'Loan | 747 cc1269-1271 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak as a member of the sub-committee of the European Union Committee and as one who...

Baroness O'Loan | 747 cc1271-2 (Link to this contribution)

If noble Lords will just bear with me, I am nearly done. Of all surrenders to the United Kingdom,...

Lord Wasserman | 747 cc1272-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to prolong this debate at this late hour, particularly as I am very much a n...

Lord Grenfell | 747 cc1273-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will indulge me if I repeat a quotation that I used some time a...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 747 cc1274-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate. Although in some ways the opt-out/opt-in issue is c...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 cc1277-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry about the noble Baroness’s unwillingness to support

Lord Bowness | 747 c1279 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend, but while he is talking about process and proc...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1279 (Link to this contribution)

The Government do not have to give formal notification until 31 May, but the votes in this House ...

Lord Richard | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I am much obliged to the Minister. He says that this vote tonight is necessary so that negotiatio...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

Noble Lords conduct their own business in this House and I think that the Motions—

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

We have presented to noble Lords the Motion that we believe reflects the position of this House.<...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the noble Lord, but I want to make this point absolutely clear. The noble Lord...

Lord Richard | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect, I am not clutching at any straws at all. Having been drawn into a conversatio...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I have given the noble Lord the answer.

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I can give no other answer and I will give no other, because I have given the noble Lord an answe...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I want to get clarification on something tha...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 cc1281-2 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. There will be informal negotiations to start with because, until the reports from the su...

Lord Blackwell | 747 c1282 (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend give me one more assurance? Can he confirm that, once the British Government ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1282 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, that is indeed provided for. After 31 May, not only will impact assessments be generated for...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 c1282 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has just said something a little startling. He assured the noble Lord, Lord Blackw...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1283 (Link to this contribution)

There will be a second vote on the whole package after 31 May.

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1283 (Link to this contribution)

There will be a deadline of 31 May. The Government will make the decision but it will be up to Pa...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 747 c1283 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I am not going to give way. I have some important information for the House. The brie...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 747 c1283 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I confirm what I said at the end of my intervention—that I do not propose to divide the...

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