Investigatory Powers (Amendment) Bill [Lords]

I listened carefully to the right hon. Gentleman’s point. I am not sure it is directly relevant t...

My right hon. Friend mentioned the ISC’s scrutiny of these matters. He will understand the concer...

We looked at that. There is a balance to be struck, and actually the bulk of those Secretaries of...

As a member of the ISC, I welcome the Government’s acceptance of our recommendation. However, I w...

I think it is inconceivable that the Prime Minister of the day would not be informed of the use o...

It is not about the Prime Minister not being informed about the delegation; it is about the Prime...

I understood the point that the right hon. Gentleman was making—perhaps my answer was not clear—b...

On that point, will the Home Secretary give way?

I will, but I do want to make some progress.

I thank the Home Secretary for giving way. He mentioned listening to scrutiny by the ISC. The Joi...

I reassure the hon. and learned Lady that we will do exactly that.

I turn to the measures i...

I know that the Home Secretary wants to make progress, but I am grateful for the opportunity to c...

My right hon. and learned Friend—and immediate predecessor—makes incredibly important points. Dig...

I understand the use of the measure for the security services, but the Bill broadens the scope of...

I understand the right hon. Gentleman’s point. Innocent people’s data is often acquired in datase...

I thought we were here today to scrutinise the Bill. It should not be a chore for the Home Secret...

The simple truth of the matter is that I disagree. In legislation of this nature, maintaining con...

A general listener to our proceedings might worry that the new powers could be used for fishing e...

The hon. Lady makes an important point, but the powers could be applied to any bulk dataset colle...

As my hon. Friend the Member for Wallasey (Dame Angela Eagle) just said, we need to give confiden...

The right hon. Gentleman specifically spoke about judicial oversight, but there is oversight—

There isn’t.

There is oversight by the Secretary of State through the warrant process, and oversight of the wh...

I agree, and I support that oversight, even though this Government have not made our job on the I...

As I said, I noticed that the right hon. Gentleman specifically said that there is no judicial ov...

There isn’t.

I am not disagreeing, but there is oversight. The Committee on which the right hon. Gentleman sit...

The Home Secretary has just touched on the importance of the oversight role of the ISC, particula...

That is not an element of this Bill. On a commitment for the Prime Minister to meet with the Comm...

Will the Home Secretary give way?

I want to make progress to ensure that everyone who wishes to speak in this debate is able to do ...

On that point, will the Home Secretary encourage the Prime Minister to go before the Intelligence...

I cannot make a commitment on the Prime Minister’s behalf. Members of the Committee will know tha...

I will assist the Home Secretary with a little context. When I was a ranking member of the Intell...

The lengths that some people will go to to avoid Committee scrutiny. I am trying to remember wher...

I sense that the Home Secretary is coming to the end of his speech. We have mentioned parliamenta...

I take the point that the hon. and learned Lady puts forward. There are a number of organisations...

I call the Opposition Front-Bench spokesperson.

6.26 pm

The first duty of any Government is to keep their citizens safe—to defend our national security a...

Let me say first of all that I am in favour of the Bill, which I think constitutes a sensible upd...

Let me start with two thank yous. First, let me put on record my party’s gratitude to the intelli...

I thank my hon. Friend for his kind comments earlier. As usual, he is making a very forensic spee...

My hon. and learned Friend will not be surprised to hear that I completely agree with her.

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That is simply incorrect, and I know that the hon. Gentleman would not wish to continue down a ro...

I am grateful for that clarification from the Minister, and we will of course engage further in t...

Hegel said, “What is reasonable is real, and what is real is reasonable.” In facing the very real...

The right hon. Gentleman and I often crossed swords during the passage of the 2016 Act, but we ha...

Our agreements are becoming rather less unusual. I do not know whether that gives the hon. and le...

In common with all the speakers who have made their contributions thus far on Second Reading of t...

I was a little taken aback that the Home Secretary just assumed that, once these had been agreed ...

Clearly, putting such things in the Bill is often an important safeguard. Certainly, I do not und...

Is the hon. Lady aware that the Wilson doctrine is still in operation? This came about in the ’60...

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his comments. Obviously, the Wilson doctrine is in the previous In...

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Wallasey (Dame Angela Eagle). As she mentioned, sh...

Let me start by thanking our security services. I think I am now the longest-serving member of th...

I was not in the Government then.

I think the Minister was, actually. I think he picked up the tail end of that Bill.

The ISC...

Unlike most Members present, I am not an expert on security. We in this House often have to be ge...

First, I thank all right hon. and hon Members for their contributions. This is a complex issue, a...

We come now to the wind-ups.

9.8 pm

The Investigatory Powers (Amendment) Bill is a technical but important piece of legislation that,...

I thank hon. and right hon. Members from across the House for their contributions not just today,...

My right hon. Friend has been immensely generous both in giving way and in his earlier comments a...

As my right hon. Friend will know, several powers in the earlier Bill—the one that he took throug...

What the Minister has to realise is that the big concern from the public—although let’s be honest...

I think we may be conflating different aspects of the Bill. I do believe that this already has ov...

I accept what my right hon. Friend says but, in the context I described, the case is being made t...

My right hon. and learned Friend is right, but he also knows that IPCO has retrospective oversigh...

On a different but not unrelated point, the Minister will recall that I referred to the annual re...

My right hon. Friend answers his own question. The reason for the difference is the currency elem...

In that case, we can reach agreement if the Minister would like to give us an assurance that the ...

I will be very happy to talk to my right hon. Friend about that to make sure that he is satisfied...