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Northern Ireland Budget (No. 2) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 10 July 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Chris Heaton-Harris. The answering members were Steve Baker and Peter Kyle.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Bill committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

736 cc101-144 

Session

2022-23

Legislative stage

Second reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 c101 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

In doing so, I once again speak wit...

Jim Shannon | 736 c101 (Link to this contribution)

Very quickly, in relation to the budget, my hon. Friend the Member for Belfast East (Gavin Robins...


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Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point, and we could consider introducing a needs-based factor ...

Gavin Robinson | 736 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Secretary of State for that confirmation that he is at least willing to...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

I very much hope that no discussion with a future Executive would take seven years to come to any...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 736 c103 (Link to this contribution)

As one of those leaders, may I be absolutely clear? My objective is to ensure that we get solid f...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 cc103-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his point. He and his party representatives, and indeed all ...

Robin Walker | 736 c104 (Link to this contribution)

I am very cognisant of the difficulties that the Secretary of State faces with the Bill, and his ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 c104 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his question, and acknowledge his long-standing interest in this area....

Stephen Farry | 736 c104 (Link to this contribution)

I fully concur with the Secretary of State about the importance of the Executive being restored. ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 c105 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a wise point, and I know he follows this issue closely. We are working c...

Theresa Villiers | 736 c105 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Secretary of State confirm that the UK Government still provide additional funding to the...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 cc105-6 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, we do provide that funding. It is to the value of £32 million a year this year and next y...

Peter Kyle | 736 cc106-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for setting out the measures in the Bill. Northern Irelan...

Gregory Campbell | 736 c107 (Link to this contribution)

Was the hon. Gentleman’s attention drawn to a report in The Daily Telegraph on Saturday, where a ...

Peter Kyle | 736 cc107-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the hon. Member’s intervention. He will know my personal view, which is that th...

Paul Girvan | 736 c108 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member has highlighted an area in which I have serious concerns—the policies being put f...

Peter Kyle | 736 c109 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman highlights the chronic need for investment and reform in Northern Ireland. One...

Robin Millar | 736 cc109-110 (Link to this contribution)

Members will be aware of my keen interest in all things the Union. In truth, I had intended not t...

Colum Eastwood | 736 c110 (Link to this contribution)

My grandmother once told me that two wrongs do not make a right. Is the hon. Gentleman making the...

Robin Millar | 736 c110 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure how the hon. Gentleman got there from what I said, but that is not where I am going...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 736 c110 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member and my friend for giving way, and for his interest in the Union. He is ma...

Robin Millar | 736 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his intervention. That is where I am heading with my next po...

Richard Thomson | 736 cc111-3 (Link to this contribution)

May I begin by expressing my personal disappointment that once again we are here passing measures...

Sammy Wilson | 736 c112 (Link to this contribution)

As the Secretary of State has said, tonight’s debate and the Bill are simply to allocate money, w...

Sammy Wilson | 736 cc114-5 (Link to this contribution)

The promise actually was broken by the Secretary of State. It was a two-sided promise: that would...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 736 c115 (Link to this contribution)

We have just had a debate about making sure that we are factually correct in this place. I am qui...

Sammy Wilson | 736 cc115-7 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the Secretary of State was not personally responsible, but he cannot wash his hands o...

Robin Millar | 736 c116 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman’s flow, because I am fascinated by his argume...

Sammy Wilson | 736 cc116-8 (Link to this contribution)

I think the point that I made was an indication of that. It is not just about getting money so th...

Claire Hanna | 736 c118 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman acknowledge that the Bengoa report outlined how we could tackle tha...

Sammy Wilson | 736 c118 (Link to this contribution)

That is the whole point. Ministers have had the Bengoa report, as the hon. Lady says, for years. ...

Colum Eastwood | 736 cc118-121 (Link to this contribution)

I think we are really through the looking-glass now. It is great to hear real unity from those on...

Meg Hillier | 736 cc121-3 (Link to this contribution)

I share the disappointment that we are here today expressed by the Minister, my hon. Friend the M...

Gavin Robinson | 736 cc122-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee, the hon. Member for Hackne...

Gavin Robinson | 736 cc124-6 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State shakes his head, but he knows the figures. In the next financial year, pub...

Stephen Farry | 736 cc126-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is somewhat opportune to follow the hon. Member for Belfast East (Gavin Robinson), as before I...

Carla Lockhart | 736 cc128-130 (Link to this contribution)

It is deeply regrettable that we find ourselves in this situation once again. Sometimes, the Demo...

Robin Millar | 736 c130 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady used the phrase “enjoying a needs-based allocation”. I would contest that. My conce...

Carla Lockhart | 736 c130 (Link to this contribution)

The reality is that the Barnett formula across the United Kingdom, in all the different nations, ...

Sammy Wilson | 736 c130 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that a financial allocation made on a purely needs basis would provide ...

Carla Lockhart | 736 cc130-1 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention.

We want a restored Executive...

Claire Hanna | 736 cc131-2 (Link to this contribution)

For the past five years, any budget that we have had has been delivered—sometimes fairly chaotica...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 736 c132 (Link to this contribution)

At the risk of becoming a history lesson, may I remind the hon. Lady that between 1982 and 1986, ...

Claire Hanna | 736 c132 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to correct the right hon. Gentleman’s history lesson. That was not a power-sharing Gov...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 736 c132 (Link to this contribution)

That is simply not true. One of the reasons why the DUP stated very clearly that it cannot suppor...

Claire Hanna | 736 cc132-4 (Link to this contribution)

I would be happy to give way in a moment if the right hon. Gentleman wants to tell me about any p...

Nigel Evans | 736 c133 (Link to this contribution)

In calling Jim Shannon, I just want to say: do not forget to leave some time for the wind-ups, Ji...

Jim Shannon | 736 cc133-7 (Link to this contribution)

May I say what a pleasure it is to speak in this debate? I am pleased to follow the right hon. an...

Peter Kyle | 736 cc135-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank Members from the across the House for participating so fulsomely in the debate. As always...

Steve Baker | 736 cc138-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am likewise most grateful to hon. and right hon. Members for their contributions this evening. ...

Stephen Farry | 736 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I very much share the vision that the Minister is setting out, but, leaving aside the language ar...

Steve Baker | 736 cc139-140 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, and I shall come on to it in a moment, but I want there to...

Steve Baker | 736 c140 (Link to this contribution)

I will, as I referred to the hon. Gentleman.

Colum Eastwood | 736 c140 (Link to this contribution)

It was not me who suggested that that was a tactic. The Secretary of State outlined the tactic in...

Steve Baker | 736 cc140-2 (Link to this contribution)

I say to the hon. Gentleman that the simple fact is that the reason we are not doing all stages t...

Richard Thomson | 736 c141 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that clarification, but however good the intentions are, it seems to fall short...

Steve Baker | 736 c141 (Link to this contribution)

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, the best way to get those questions answered is to g...

Steve Baker | 736 c141 (Link to this contribution)

That brings me on to a point I wanted to make. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and I ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 736 c141 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect to the Minister, the matters that we want to be addressed are not matters for ...

Steve Baker | 736 cc141-3 (Link to this contribution)

We certainly do. The right hon. Gentleman and I have walked a long way together over the last sev...

Meg Hillier | 736 c143 (Link to this contribution)

My concern is that it is a disproportionately large cut to a very small budget. It means that the...

Steve Baker | 736 cc143-4 (Link to this contribution)

Let me just check my notes to make sure I answer the hon. Lady properly on this point.

What...

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