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Debates on delegated legislation on Tuesday, 13 July 2021, in the House of Commons, led by Helen Whately. The answering member was Rosena Allin-Khan.
Motion that the draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations 2021, which were laid before this House on 22 June, be approved. Debate interrupted. Motion that at this day's sitting, Standing Order 41A (Deferred divisions) shall not apply to (a) the Motion in the name of Secretary Sajid Javid relating to the National Health Service and (b) the Motion in the name of Secretary Priti Patel relating to the Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism. Agreed to on question. Main question again proposed and agreed to on division (319 to 246).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

699 cc269-299 

Session

2021-22

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) (Coronavirus) Regulations
Tuesday, 22 June 2021
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Deferred Divisions
Tuesday, 13 July 2021
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Helen Whately | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That the draft Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) (Amend...

Christopher Chope | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I raised a point of order earlier this afternoon about th...


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Nigel Evans | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for that point of order, Sir Christopher. The Minister is on her feet and she looks as ...

Helen Whately | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was indeed intending to come to that point. I was comme...

Helen Whately | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

If my hon. Friend will let me, I will cover his exact point.

I know that some hon. Members ...

William Wragg | 699 c270 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. It states in the explanatory notes:

“A full Impact ...

Nigel Evans | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

That is not a point of order for me, but it could have been an intervention upon the Minister, so...

Helen Whately | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, the impact assessment is being worked on. That is the current situation. I was explain...

Mark Harper | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way on that point?

Helen Whately | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

In one moment. One thing I can share is evidence that we have on how this kind of policy is worki...

Helen Whately | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

If my hon. Friends would allow to make a little more progress, I will absolutely take more interv...

Helen Whately | 699 c271 (Link to this contribution)

I may well answer many of my hon. Friends’ questions as I proceed, so I ask my right hon. Friend ...

Helen Whately | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

In one moment. Vaccination teams have made multiple visits to care homes since then and as a resu...

Helen Whately | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

I will take an intervention from my right hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper).<...

Mark Harper | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

I come back to the point about the impact assessment. The document prepared for the House says th...

Helen Whately | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

During the course of this speech, I will share as much information as I can with my right hon. Fr...

Desmond Swayne | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will appreciate that the provisions before us extend well beyond the care home staff...

Helen Whately | 699 c272 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend asks an important question about how things would work in practice, although...

Rachael Maskell | 699 c273 (Link to this contribution)

I want to help the Minister. We are having to make a decision this evening on the balance of risk...

Helen Whately | 699 c273 (Link to this contribution)

We live in an uncertain world, but we know that covid is a killer for people living in care homes...

Helen Whately | 699 c273 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress. As the Prime Minister and our chief medical officer have said, even wh...

Christopher Chope | 699 c273 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way on that point?

Helen Whately | 699 c273 (Link to this contribution)

We must ask ourselves: what more can we do to protect those who will be most vulnerable?

William Wragg | 699 c274 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. To assist the debate, there is a discrepancy between the ...

Nigel Evans | 699 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Again, this is not a matter for the Chair, but it is certainly a point for the Minister to addres...

Helen Whately | 699 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. There is not a great deal more that I can say on that point. As I h...

Christopher Chope | 699 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Yesterday, I asked the House of Commons Librar...

Nigel Evans | 699 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I can only say what I have heard during the debate and apparently the impact assessment is...

Helen Whately | 699 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies recommends that...

William Wragg | 699 c275 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentions feedback, but the draft explanatory memorandum states that

“a majorit...

Helen Whately | 699 c275 (Link to this contribution)

We have reviewed the huge number of responses to the consultation. Not everybody who responded su...

Helen Whately | 699 c275 (Link to this contribution)

I may pre-empt my hon. Friend’s point. I know that hon. Friends have asked why the Government nee...

Jim Shannon | 699 c275 (Link to this contribution)

If we take a vote tonight, it will set a trend, set down a marker and point the direction not jus...

Helen Whately | 699 cc275-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member is right: I know that other parts of the United Kingdom are watching what we are ...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way on that point?

Helen Whately | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

I will proceed, and I may answer my hon. Friend’s question as I go.

We listened to the resp...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain why the draft regulations do not distinguish between those workers who a...

Helen Whately | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend asks a reasonable question. We consulted on exactly that point. There are two reas...

Luke Evans | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. On making sure there is equity, where does she beli...

Helen Whately | 699 c276 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a really important point. Throughout the pandemic, the Government and I have...

Helen Whately | 699 c277 (Link to this contribution)

I will sum up, as I know other colleagues wish to makes speeches.

I put on record my sincer...

Mark Jenkinson | 699 c277 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I seek your advice on whether the vaccination figures ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 699 c277 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that point of order. Obviously, I cannot comment on figures the Mi...

Rosena Allin-Khan | 699 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)

Since the start of the pandemic, our lives have all been deeply affected. Our key workers have ex...

Rachael Maskell | 699 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I am really grateful for the speech that my hon. Friend is making and obviously pass on my condol...

Rosena Allin-Khan | 699 c278 (Link to this contribution)

It is almost as though my hon. Friend has read the rest of my speech. I could not agree more.

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Steve Brine | 699 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the hon. Lady is saying. My first instinct on persuasion, months and months ago, was ...

Rosena Allin-Khan | 699 c279 (Link to this contribution)

My response is that the Government have not gone far enough to have these conversations. A real e...

Rosena Allin-Khan | 699 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make progress, thank you.

These measures will disproportionately punish group...

Rosena Allin-Khan | 699 cc279-280 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make progress, please.

The UK Government should learn from the fantastic work...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 699 c280 (Link to this contribution)

This debate finishes at 7.19 pm and I need to bring the Minister in at the end. That means that i...

Christopher Chope | 699 cc280-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Tooting (Dr Allin-Khan). I am delighted that the O...

Philippa Whitford | 699 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)

I do not usually speak in the debates about statutory instruments on covid regulations as they ap...

Mark Harper | 699 c283 (Link to this contribution)

I do not often say this, but it is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Central Ayrshir...

Steve Baker | 699 c283 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that in some cases, seeming to threaten people will only worsen t...

Mark Harper | 699 c284 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, and that is why I think these proposals are mistaken. Let me just st...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 699 c285 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a fantastic argument, as he always does in this place. I have inte...

Mark Harper | 699 c285 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for bringing that information to the attention of the House.

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Nigel Evans | 699 c285 (Link to this contribution)

I can guarantee that everybody will get in: there is a five-minute limit.

6.47 pm

Munira Wilson | 699 cc285-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper), and I pretty muc...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 699 cc286-7 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with much of what the hon. Member for Twickenham (Munira Wilson) has said. I shall begin,...

Mark Jenkinson | 699 c287 (Link to this contribution)

We heard from the Minister about the 99% vaccination uptake where an employer had mandated it the...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 699 cc287-8 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. There are perfectly rational arrangements that could allow particula...

Nigel Evans | 699 c288 (Link to this contribution)

I remind Dr Evans that I will interrupt him briefly at 7 o’clock to put the motion on deferred Di...

Luke Evans | 699 c288 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I look forward to that, as it will give me time to catch my breath....

Luke Evans | 699 c327 (Link to this contribution)

So there is a duty of care, and duty of care is a running theme. Currently, there is no law to sa...

Steve Baker | 699 c327 (Link to this contribution)

Of course my hon. Friend is an expert in these matters, but he has conceded that, in the cases he...

Luke Evans | 699 cc327-290 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has pre-empted the rest of my speech, in which I will hopefully try to address som...

Nigel Evans | 699 c290 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Sorry, we have to leave it there. Four minutes each. I call Dr Ben Spencer.

7.3 pm

Ben Spencer | 699 cc290-1 (Link to this contribution)

Controversially, perhaps, I think that much of this statutory instrument is uncontroversial. The ...

William Wragg | 699 cc291-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Runnymede and Weybridge (Dr Spencer), an...

Helen Whately | 699 c292 (Link to this contribution)

I thank hon. Members for their contributions and the questions they have put to me during this de...

Mark Harper | 699 c292 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know what other colleagues feel, but I find it offensive that, because we have expressed...

Helen Whately | 699 c292 (Link to this contribution)

No offence was meant on my part. The problem with what my right hon. Friend is suggesting is that...

Helen Whately | 699 cc293-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I am conscious of the time left.

Several hon. Members have argued that we s...

Charles Walker | 699 c294 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Nigel Evans | 699 c294 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the point of order will have to come after the Division. I am sorry.

Quest...

Charles Walker | 699 c294 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was the Chairman of the Procedure Committee for seven y...

Nigel Evans | 699 c294 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. As I said earlier, it is a totally unsatisfact...

Christopher Chope | 699 cc294-9 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. It always used to be the convention in this place that if...

Nigel Evans | 699 c299 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. I have been a Member of Parliament for 29 year...

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