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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 16 January 2018, in the House of Commons, led by David Lidington and Robert Buckland.
Consideration of Bill, as amended in the Committee. Amendment 57 negatived on division (296 to 319). Amendment 4 negatived on division (299 to 317). New clause (EU Protocol on animal sentience) negatived on division (297 to 320). Amendment 49 negatived. Amendments 21 to 29 agreed to on division (317 to 297). Amendment 3 negatived on division (297 to 321). Bill to be further considered tomorrow.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

634 cc729-841 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19
Thursday, 13 July 2017
Bills
House of Commons
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 21 December 2017
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Kerry McCarthy | 634 c730 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 57, page 2, line 42, leave out clause 4.

This amendment is linked t...

John Bercow | 634 cc730-3 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 4, in clause 5, page 3,...


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Kerry McCarthy | 634 cc733-6 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 57, which would leave out clause 4, is linked to new clauses 19 and 21. Many of the ame...

Dominic Grieve | 634 cc736-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bristol East (Kerry McCarthy) in respect of her pr...

John Redwood | 634 c738 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. and learned Friend agree that the best guarantee of the fundamental rights of ...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c738 (Link to this contribution)

May I gently say to my right hon. Friend that if his analysis were accurate, no statute would eve...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c738 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (John Redwood) that in the end, becaus...

John Bercow | 634 c738 (Link to this contribution)

Order. This, if I may say so to the hon. Gentleman, is a mini-speech, with more emphasis on the s...

Dominic Grieve | 634 cc738-740 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

My hon. Friend makes a perfectly good point, which reinforces my imp...

Stephen Kinnock | 634 c740 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman is making a point that gets to the heart of the purpose of t...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c740 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a totally legitimate point, especially as the Government themselves have...

Anne Main | 634 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend says that he does not wish to divide the House. However, if he h...

Dominic Grieve | 634 cc740-1 (Link to this contribution)

There might have been, but as a loyal member of the Conservative party over many years, I have al...

Paul Blomfield | 634 c742 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, it is a genuine privilege to follow the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (...

John Bercow | 634 c742 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Forgive me. Before the hon. Gentleman gets under way—I think the Minister is keen to follo...

Paul Blomfield | 634 cc742-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will seek to live up to that expectation, Mr Speaker; I do not intend to speak for long.

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Paul Blomfield | 634 c743 (Link to this contribution)

I see the Solicitor General nodding. On this crucial issue, however, the Government’s cover has b...

Hilary Benn | 634 c744 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. In addition to the points he has just made, the Exiting...

Paul Blomfield | 634 c744 (Link to this contribution)

I agree absolutely with my right hon. Friend, and I hope even at this stage that Members across t...

Chris Leslie | 634 c744 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak briefly to several of the amendments in this group. In particular, I want to enco...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c744 (Link to this contribution)

I am certainly not going to make a mini-speech; I said what I felt was sufficient. I offer the ne...

Chris Leslie | 634 c745 (Link to this contribution)

This may seem a dry and technical question, but from time to time Parliament does reflect on the ...

Catherine West | 634 c745 (Link to this contribution)

One of the perplexing aspects of Brexit is the lack of certainty. Many external advisers have com...

Chris Leslie | 634 c745 (Link to this contribution)

These issues are very much to do with legal clarity. They are to do with ensuring that the body o...

Charlie Elphicke | 634 c745 (Link to this contribution)

I read what the report said about the issue of the Charter of Fundamental Rights, and I must say ...

Chris Leslie | 634 cc745-6 (Link to this contribution)

The Select Committee consists of Members in all parts of the House. Far be it from me to interfer...

James Cleverly | 634 c746 (Link to this contribution)

The catalogue of rights that the hon. Gentleman has just read out is impressive, without a shadow...

Chris Leslie | 634 c746 (Link to this contribution)

No one is more proud of being a member of this fine body than I am. Parliament is a great institu...

Pat McFadden | 634 c746 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a fundamental inconsistency here? The Government’s reason for not including the char...

Chris Leslie | 634 c747 (Link to this contribution)

The logic of the Government is a mystery sometimes, and I wonder whether the Solicitor General ac...

Peter Kyle | 634 c747 (Link to this contribution)

Those of us who are gay, who went to school in the 1980s and who remember very well the impact of...

Chris Leslie | 634 c747 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That right of protection for freedoms and liberties on the gr...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c747 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a strong point and I strongly support what he is saying and Labour Front...

Chris Leslie | 634 c747 (Link to this contribution)

That is right, and my hon. Friend will also remember that, before becoming Secretary of State, th...

Seema Malhotra | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Does he agree that the issue at hand is not whether...

Chris Leslie | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

I can certainly imagine cases where our constituents, feeling the need to assert some of those ri...

Anna Soubry | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

I think I played a small part in that, and the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Does he agree ...

Chris Leslie | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that advice will have been heard in senior quarters. Indeed a vice-chair of the Conserv...

Chris Leslie | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman wants to show us his spade, I will give way to him.

James Cleverly | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

I am not trying to scrape over the point I made earlier, but I am very proud of the history of th...

Chris Leslie | 634 c748 (Link to this contribution)

Who knows what will happen in terms of future majorities in this place. The hon. Gentleman is sti...

Lady Hermon | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

The Government boast about their protection of human rights, and of course they sign up to UN con...

Chris Leslie | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady’s legal experience speaks volumes about the issue. Simply explaining that one is in...

Desmond Swayne | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

They have never been in any of my leaflets. I may be in danger of repeating myself now, but when ...

Chris Leslie | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

As it happens, since that time, we have learned that the charter provides extremely important pro...

Emma Reynolds | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the right hon. Member for New Forest West (Sir Desmond Swayne) make our point for us? So...

Chris Leslie | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

I am worried. The right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) was saying to her hon. Friends, “B...

Charlie Elphicke | 634 c749 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has been incredibly generous in taking interventions throughout his speech. Wh...

Chris Leslie | 634 c750 (Link to this contribution)

If that were the right way, the Government would have introduced a Bill to provide such certainty...

Alex Chalk | 634 c750 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right about the importance of some of these rights, but may I suggest that ...

Chris Leslie | 634 cc750-1 (Link to this contribution)

Personally, I believe that Parliament does and should value the provisions of the charter of fund...

Charlie Elphicke | 634 c751 (Link to this contribution)

In Dover and Ramsgate in east Kent, we have to put up with the evil and wicked trade of live anim...

Chris Leslie | 634 c751 (Link to this contribution)

There are ways of mending, improving and reforming animal safety standards within the European Un...

Caroline Lucas | 634 c751 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, if the Government had had the political will to do this, they...

Chris Leslie | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes a very good point. In relation to specific issues relating to Brexit, the Gov...

Graham Stringer | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend knows that we do not agree on many issues relating to the EU, but we were both ele...

Chris Leslie | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

Treaties are reformed every time there are adaptations to them, whether it is Maastricht, Nice or...

Kerry McCarthy | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

It is an absolute fallacy to suggest that this Government have been dying to ban live animal expo...

Chris Leslie | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend absolutely nails the point and brings it home. She knows a great deal more about s...

Chris Leslie | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

I do have to conclude my speech, but I will give way to the hon. Lady first.

2 pm

Antoinette Sandbach | 634 c752 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, but this country is a leader in animal welfare legislation, ...

Chris Leslie | 634 c753 (Link to this contribution)

We do have high animal welfare standards. I do not deny that there could always be improvements, ...

Chris Leslie | 634 c753 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one last intervention, but then I must conclude.

Stephen Doughty | 634 c753 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way; he is being very generous. Does he recognise that people a...

Chris Leslie | 634 c753 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Fareham (Suella Fernandes) on her appointment, but I am very m...

John Bercow | 634 c753 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I will take Joanna Cherry next and then Mr Kenneth Clarke.

Joanna Cherry | 634 cc753-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to discuss amendment 7, which is in my name and those of my hon. Friends and other Members...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c754 (Link to this contribution)

It was not that long ago. Some of us were at school or were students at the time and fought very ...

Anna Soubry | 634 c754 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way, because I think it needs to be put on the record t...

Joanna Cherry | 634 cc754-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that the right hon. Lady has failed to take my point, which is that this is not about ...

John Redwood | 634 c756 (Link to this contribution)

If the Scottish referendum had gone the other way, would not the hon. and learned Lady have regar...

Joanna Cherry | 634 cc756-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will not be drawn into a discussion about that today. I can see why the right hon. Gentleman mi...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c757 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with what the hon. and learned Lady is saying, but it is my understanding, and I...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c758 (Link to this contribution)

That is what I have heard, too. What I would like to hear from the Government today—this is why I...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 634 cc758-760 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Nottingham East (Mr Leslie) began his speech by saying that it was going to b...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 634 c760 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a second; before I finish, I will give way if people insist.

Secondly, w...

Catherine West | 634 c760 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman is making an excellent speech. Does he agree that this is th...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 634 cc760-1 (Link to this contribution)

I hope and believe that the other place will make an enormous number of changes to this Bill. The...

Mike Gapes | 634 cc761-2 (Link to this contribution)

I support amendment 57, tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol East (Kerry McCarthy), al...

Mike Gapes | 634 c762 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman could walk on water.

Anguilla is economically dependent on...

Alan Mak | 634 c762 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will know that my colleagues in the Department for Exiting the European Union ...

Mike Gapes | 634 c762 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not agree that it is a perfectly adequate mechanism. The report published by the Governm...

Mike Wood | 634 c763 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and for treating us to the shorter version of his speec...

Mike Gapes | 634 cc763-4 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not; it is just words. It is all about what will happen in the negotiations. How much mo...

Martin Whitfield | 634 c764 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. I do not want to interrupt his most eloquent...

Mike Gapes | 634 cc764-5 (Link to this contribution)

Actually, I do not agree. The UK has far bigger clout in the world than a small island with a pop...

Wes Streeting | 634 c765 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this is one of a number of examples? A place such as Anguilla or a...

Mike Gapes | 634 cc765-6 (Link to this contribution)

I actually think, in the case of Anguilla, it is because the Government have never even thought a...

John Redwood | 634 c766 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly agree with the hon. Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes) that the United Kingdom could...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c766 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

John Redwood | 634 c766 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. and learned Lady lets me finish my point, I will let her intervene. I would have thou...

Joanna Cherry | 634 cc766-7 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has unfortunately forgotten that the Scottish referendum was preceded by...

John Redwood | 634 c767 (Link to this contribution)

I fear that it is very relevant, and probably even more relevant to what we are going on to debat...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c767 (Link to this contribution)

Is the right hon. Gentleman really suggesting that the outcome of the 2014 referendum means that ...

John Redwood | 634 c767 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely not. Scottish voters’ views matter very much. They have a privileged constitutional po...

Charlie Elphicke | 634 c767 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend detect, as I do, a tendency in SNP Members, which reaches its pinnacle ...

John Redwood | 634 cc767-8 (Link to this contribution)

That is extremely good advice. I find myself in a rather different position from the hon. and lea...

Antoinette Sandbach | 634 c768 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, the charter is an excellent example of these rights. It incorporates rights on data pr...

John Redwood | 634 cc768-9 (Link to this contribution)

These rights have been incorporated into UK law because we have shared quite a lot of them before...

Vicky Ford | 634 c769 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in the issue my right hon. Friend raises about our not being able to scrutinise E...

John Redwood | 634 c770 (Link to this contribution)

We had 45 years to get that right, and I think my hon. Friend would probably agree with me that i...

Richard Drax | 634 c770 (Link to this contribution)

I sit on the European Scrutiny Committee and have done so for some time. I can confirm that, alth...

John Redwood | 634 c770 (Link to this contribution)

There is also the point that, if we are scrutinising that after it has happened, that is not a lo...

Oliver Letwin | 634 c770 (Link to this contribution)

Before he moves on to another point, does my right hon. Friend agree that the narrowness of the H...

John Redwood | 634 cc770-1 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I agree. I think the Report stage may even produce some agreement between my right hon. Frie...

John Bercow | 634 c771 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Several colleagues are now seeking to catch my eye, but I emphasise that the Minister must...

Caroline Lucas | 634 cc771-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 7, which is in my name and is supported by Opposition Members. I ho...

Lady Hermon | 634 c772 (Link to this contribution)

I am very pleased to speak in support of the new clause brought forward, once again, by the hon. ...

Caroline Lucas | 634 c772 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, in theory, I agree with the hon. Lady that the wording could be stronger. I was trying to be...

Huw Merriman | 634 c772 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady not agree that we can do better on animal welfare than the EU currently allows...

Caroline Lucas | 634 cc772-3 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman that the new laws on sentencing are certainly to be welcomed, but...

Tom Brake | 634 c773 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady agree that a bird in the hand—her proposal —is much better than two in the bus...

Caroline Lucas | 634 cc773-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to agree with that intervention.

In case a Conservative Member is about to embar...

Anna Soubry | 634 cc774-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion (Caroline Lucas), although I wi...

Bambos Charalambous | 634 c775 (Link to this contribution)

I will be supporting amendment 57 and other provisions. I rise to speak to new clause 16, which i...

Antoinette Sandbach | 634 cc775-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the speeches made by my right hon. and learned Friends the Members for Beaconsf...

John Bercow | 634 c776 (Link to this contribution)

I call Stuart C. McDonald—fairly briefly. The hon. Gentleman has amendments down and must be hear...

Stuart C McDonald | 634 cc776-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I want to speak briefly to amendments 55 and 56 and to probe one simple is...

Robert Buckland | 634 c777 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to speak in support of amendments 37 and 38 in the name of my colleagues in Government.

Oliver Letwin | 634 c777 (Link to this contribution)

The Government have introduced welcome amendments to clause 7. While my hon. and learned Friend i...

Robert Buckland | 634 c777 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. If he had sufficient time at his disposal, he might have s...

Vicky Ford | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. and learned Friend give way?

Robert Buckland | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

I will not; I am developing my argument. It was a point that was made clear, not only in the char...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think I have been under any misunderstanding at all. That is why I have kept pressing th...

Robert Buckland | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend and I agree about general principles, which is why the general p...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. and learned Friend kindly said that he would try to answer my question. The question was:...

Robert Buckland | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

The position that my right hon. and learned Friend took on the charter back in 2007 is the right ...

William Cash | 634 c778 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely endorse what my hon. and learned Friend is saying, not least because of the acquis its...

Robert Buckland | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who raises a genuine concern about the impact of protocol 30. Ma...

Lady Hermon | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Solicitor General for giving way, particularly given that from a sedentary p...

Robert Buckland | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly can. First, we are not repealing anything. Secondly, the dog that has not barked in t...

Robert Buckland | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. and learned Lady treasures and rightly places great value on those human rig...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Solicitor General confirm once and for all that reports that the Prime Minister wants to ...

Robert Buckland | 634 c779 (Link to this contribution)

May I just calm the hon. and learned Lady? [Interruption.] Well, she is making a point that is fr...

Robert Buckland | 634 cc780-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady seems to be very focused on future referendums and the desire to rerun ...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c781 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. and learned Friend’s argument would make more sense if the Government had not decided to ...

Robert Buckland | 634 c781 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my right hon. and learned Friend is allowing me to intervene on his intervention. Let...

William Cash | 634 c781 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. and learned Friend give way?

Robert Buckland | 634 cc781-2 (Link to this contribution)

I must press on, I am afraid.

The amendments tabled by my right hon. and learned Friend the...

Caroline Lucas | 634 c782 (Link to this contribution)

I would be interested to know what policy area the Solicitor General thinks the EU provision does...

Robert Buckland | 634 cc782-3 (Link to this contribution)

May I reassure the hon. Lady by pointing out that there are many areas on which we have heard deb...

Kerry McCarthy | 634 c783 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for praising me as a shining example on animal welfare, but that does not qu...

John Bercow | 634 c783 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady had 10 seconds, and she has been indulged very modestly.

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Joanna Cherry | 634 c789 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 49, page 17, line 13, leave out “appropriate” and insert “necessary”.

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John Bercow | 634 cc789-801 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 50, page 17, line 18, l...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c801 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments I have tabled go to the heart of concerns that many Members have about the wide po...

Jim Cunningham | 634 c801 (Link to this contribution)

It seems to me, and I am sure the hon. and learned Lady will agree, that as far as the Government...

Joanna Cherry | 634 cc801-2 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. That is the gravamen of the concern. The Government are g...

Oliver Letwin | 634 c802 (Link to this contribution)

I can see the hon. and learned Lady’s point that, in the light of the changes that the Government...

Joanna Cherry | 634 c802 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It would not be very consistent if I th...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 cc802-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak only briefly to somewhat lament the fact that we have not made more progress on this...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c803 (Link to this contribution)

I totally understand the wish, perhaps, to have had more discussion or debate before bringing ame...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c803 (Link to this contribution)

I do wish that the Scottish National party would take up its option of positions in the other pla...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c803 (Link to this contribution)

No—so that the SNP could be represented in the other place, because I have no doubt that this mat...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c803 (Link to this contribution)

Even if the SNP were in the Lords, it is the representatives here who are elected, and representa...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 cc803-4 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that. Whatever compromise or proposals emerge in the other place, we can either debate t...

Martin Whitfield | 634 c804 (Link to this contribution)

Is not trust based on experience, and is not the experience that we have witnessed over the past ...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c804 (Link to this contribution)

We have come a long way since the Government first published the Bill in draft last summer, when ...

Stewart Hosie | 634 c804 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Committee Chair’s taking his Committee formally and informally to Edinburgh and I a...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c804 (Link to this contribution)

Trust is about what is offered to the other party. In this case, the Government have been consist...

Lady Hermon | 634 c804 (Link to this contribution)

We have not had a functioning Assembly in Northern Ireland for a year—since January 2017. How exa...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 cc804-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is very problematic. My Committee has repeatedly attempted to make an official visit to the Pr...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c805 (Link to this contribution)

The biggest scandal about clause 11 is that the UK Government know that it is completely unaccept...

Oliver Letwin | 634 c805 (Link to this contribution)

No doubt the hon. Lady will develop her argument, but will she just clarify something? It is not ...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c805 (Link to this contribution)

There are things that are devolved and on which we work with the EU, and we do not want those dev...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c805 (Link to this contribution)

Is the issue not the basic principle that when the Scottish Parliament was set up, certain powers...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely the case. It is the case in Scotland and is now the case in Wales. The Welsh a...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Lady not aware that there are ongoing discussions between the UK Government and the d...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

I am aware that discussions are taking place, but I am also aware that the UK Government promised...

Hywel Williams | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady agree that a symbol of how seriously this is being taken by the Welsh Governme...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, that is exactly right, and something I am coming on to. Just today, the Welsh First Minister...

Chris Ruane | 634 c806 (Link to this contribution)

Members from all sides have mentioned the issue of trust. Does my hon. Friend think that the Gove...

Anna McMorrin | 634 cc806-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. How can we trust a UK Government who cannot make a decision o...

Luke Graham | 634 c807 (Link to this contribution)

I share the hon. Lady’s frustration that the Government have not tabled an amendment, which I thi...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c807 (Link to this contribution)

We did table amendments, but the Government voted against them.

I cannot possibly accept th...

Eddie Hughes | 634 c807 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the point is that we are a United Kingdom, and as we move across the United Kingdom we see...

Anna McMorrin | 634 cc807-8 (Link to this contribution)

If the UK Government were going to work together in that way, surely they would have tabled an am...

Dominic Grieve | 634 c808 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cardiff North (Anna McMorrin). I want to raise two...

Drew Hendry | 634 c808 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. and learned Gentleman agree with his colleague in the Scottish Conservative p...

Dominic Grieve | 634 cc808-810 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, 110%; I agree entirely with those sentiments, and the remark I made earlier about it not bei...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c810 (Link to this contribution)

I should like to speak to amendment 5, a cross-party amendment tabled in my name and those of oth...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c810 (Link to this contribution)

I count 10 Ministers on the Treasury Bench, so it is a little churlish to say that the Government...

Stephen Doughty | 634 cc810-2 (Link to this contribution)

I do not normally respond negatively to the hon. Gentleman, but he fundamentally misunderstands m...

Chris Elmore | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State for Scotland said that these things would come back on Report. That has no...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and it is a great concern that we have not had a proper chance to discuss the issue in th...

Ian Murray | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

Would it not be an act of good faith for the Government to accept amendment 3 today, and then to ...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 3 is sensible, well meant and well thought through, and it enjoys substantial support. ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a good point about the legislative consent motion and the requiremen...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c811 (Link to this contribution)

The bottom line is that these concerns have been raised for months. They were raised by the Welsh...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c813 (Link to this contribution)

I will happily take more interventions in a moment, but I want to make a little more progress.

Luke Graham | 634 c813 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that negotiations are two-sided? He talks about the agreement o...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c813 (Link to this contribution)

I think the Government should accept the series of amendments we have tabled. I am communicating ...

Pete Wishart | 634 c813 (Link to this contribution)

This is exclusively the responsibility of the UK Government. They introduced the repeal Bill, des...

Stephen Doughty | 634 c814 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point.

Anna McMorrin | 634 c814 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this Front-Bench amendment was written alongside and in co-operati...

Stephen Doughty | 634 cc814-5 (Link to this contribution)

The series of issues we have raised concerns about for months has been clearly set out. These iss...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c815 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for allowing me to say a few words in this setting, Mr Speaker. I wish to make it clear...

Ian Murray | 634 c815 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is running through the start of the speech he made in Committee, during which ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c815 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for remembering my speeches, which makes him very favourable in my sig...

Martin Whitfield | 634 c815 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the electorate do not want a deficient Bill to lead them into ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 cc815-6 (Link to this contribution)

Let me come to that—I promise that almost my next sentence will be on that. I want to make sure t...

Paul Sweeney | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the need to make amendments to improve clause 11, which is al...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

That is brave talk, but the facts of the matter are that Conservative Members are seeking to co-o...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not see that the way to achieve UK frameworks and to respect devolution w...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

I do not recognise that description of what has been going on. In fact, as lately as October, the...

Ian Murray | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

I will try for the sixth time over two debates to get the hon. Gentleman to answer this question....

Stephen Kerr | 634 c816 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to disappoint the hon. Gentleman—I will come on to that last point. What I believe sho...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

When I was referring to having all four Governments around the table, I was talking not about neg...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Member for Harwich and North Essex (Mr Jenkin), the Chair of the Public Admini...

Alister Jack | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend that amending clause 11 is the right thing to do, but the ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. Although I could not disagree fundamentally with the wording of the amendment...

Paul Sweeney | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

We all accept that having those joint frameworks is a desirable and necessary thing, but we are t...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

What is stopping us is the fact that there is no point creating an amendment which then itself ha...

Pete Wishart | 634 c817 (Link to this contribution)

It is important that the hon. Gentleman understands the sequence and how this works. The repeal B...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c818 (Link to this contribution)

There is the soul of a nationalist. The hon. Gentleman manages to take any issue and to make it i...

Ian Murray | 634 c818 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to ask the hon. Gentleman for the seventh time, but will he tell the House what me...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c818 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady, with her normal reserve, says that I do not know. The fact is that the...

Neil Gray | 634 c818 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman talks about trust, and about building towards agreement and compromise. Will h...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c818 (Link to this contribution)

I respect the hon. Gentleman’s point of view and question on this matter. Frankly, I believe that...

Ged Killen | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

I am just looking for some clarity. The hon. Gentleman mentions how difficult it has been to get ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman talks about there not being any prospects of an agreement. There is every pros...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way just one more time because I am sure that Mr Speaker’s patience with me is going ...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

The Welsh Government and First Minister deemed it necessary to make a statement today about the l...

Stephen Kerr | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is describing the attitude of the Welsh Government, which in many respects has been...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c819 (Link to this contribution)

It would be helpful if the Government gave an assurance today that in the event that there is no ...

Stephen Kerr | 634 cc819-821 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my hon. Friend. I believe that we must not be foolishly optimistic but re...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 634 c821 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Stirling (Stephen Kerr), and I can sense the tortu...

Paul Sweeney | 634 c822 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend not agree that the game-changing arithmetic is with the Scottish Conservative...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 634 cc822-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly what I am saying to those Conservative Members. I do not want to make it more dif...

Ross Thomson | 634 c823 (Link to this contribution)

The EU referendum result was clear, and it was a decision by the House to put that question to th...

Deidre Brock | 634 c823 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman’s colleague, the hon. Member for Stirling (Stephen Kerr), quoted the Scottish ...

Ross Thomson | 634 c824 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention. I know that Members can be selective, but that survey...

Ross Thomson | 634 c824 (Link to this contribution)

No, thank you.

The survey also shows that Scots want to leave the single market. The Scotti...

Ian Murray | 634 c824 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making the same argument as the hon. Member for Stirling (Stephen Kerr) wit...

Ross Thomson | 634 cc824-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I am glad that he has recognised that my colleag...

Alison Thewliss | 634 c825 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ross Thomson | 634 c825 (Link to this contribution)

Can I make a little more progress? I will take more interventions.

Looking at the amendment...

Neil Gray | 634 c825 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, does the hon. Gentleman share my concern that the UK Government do not appear to h...

Ross Thomson | 634 cc825-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. Obviously, Government Back Benchers have not bee...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c826 (Link to this contribution)

The Labour Government in Wales are not a nationalist Government, and if the UK Government were to...

Ross Thomson | 634 cc826-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do not accept the hon. Lady’s characterisation of the UK Government’s behaviour. I have seen pe...

Philippa Whitford | 634 c827 (Link to this contribution)

Did the hon. Gentleman watch the programme? The entire session was about Brexit. Andrew Marr aske...

John Bercow | 634 c827 (Link to this contribution)

I have done no such thing. I have been a very good boy!

Ross Thomson | 634 c827 (Link to this contribution)

I was not talking about the questions asked but about the answer given. That is the broken record...

Hywel Williams | 634 cc827-9 (Link to this contribution)

I shall return, for a moment, to the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill.

I rise to speak to a...

Anna McMorrin | 634 c829 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that systems are already in place under which the Welsh and UK Gove...

Hywel Williams | 634 cc829-830 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention. It brings me to the very point I was going to make. T...

Ian Murray | 634 cc830-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to follow the hon. Members for Stirling (Stephen Kerr) and for Aberdeen South (Ros...

Stephen Gethins | 634 cc831-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to amendment 6 in my name and that of hon. Friends and colleagues. It is crucial in ...

Bernard Jenkin | 634 c832 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Stephen Gethins | 634 c832 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress.

On 6 December, the Secretary of State for Scotland was as...

Pete Wishart | 634 c832 (Link to this contribution)

As has been said, the Government do not even have a majority in the House of Lords. What does my ...

Stephen Gethins | 634 cc832-3 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, my hon. Friend makes a very good point.

I want to make it clear that the points I...

John Bercow | 634 c833 (Link to this contribution)

Order. That is rather an understatement. I am looking for an opportunity for the Minister to repl...

Stephen Gethins | 634 c833 (Link to this contribution)

I will. I know that the Minister wants to respond and pick up on some of the points that have bee...

John Bercow | 634 c833 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I say with due courtesy, but absolute insistence, to the hon. Gentleman that the Minister ...

Stephen Gethins | 634 c833 (Link to this contribution)

I should like to thank the Speaker for his guidance on that—

John Bercow | 634 c833 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Sorry, that was not guidance. That is a ruling. End of subject.

Stephen Gethins | 634 cc833-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

Let me make these points. What accountability is there on the promis...

David Lidington | 634 cc834-5 (Link to this contribution)

The debate has been lively and has ranged quite widely over various aspects of the impact of this...

David Lidington | 634 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way briefly to the hon. Lady, who has not made a speech in this debate.

Lady Hermon | 634 c835 (Link to this contribution)

May I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on his new job? I was absolutely delighted for him. H...

David Lidington | 634 c835 (Link to this contribution)

Parties have all been briefed on the Government’s position and therefore have had the opportunity...

Lady Hermon | 634 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for taking another intervention.

I am very disappointed. I si...

David Lidington | 634 cc835-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady and I have known each other for a long time, and having now had overall responsibil...

David Lidington | 634 cc836-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will forgive me, but there are a lot of amendments in this group and I want to...

Ross Thomson | 634 c837 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that we have heard a lot of talk about respect between both Gover...

David Lidington | 634 cc837-840 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend.

Let me turn to the amendments from the hon. and learned Member...

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