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Financial Services (Banking Reform) Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 9 July 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Greg Clark. The answering member was Chris Leslie.
Report stage (second day). New clause 8, discussed with new clauses 10, 15, 12, 14, Government new clause 1 and Government new schedule 1, debated and negatived on division (230 to 292). New clause 10 negatived on division (228 to 292). New clause 1 and new schedule 1 agreed to on question. Third reading agreed to on question. Bill passed. [Relevant Documents:First Report from the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards, Session 2012-13, HC 848, and the Government response, Cm 8545. Second Report from the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards, Session 2012-13, Banking reform: towards the right structure, HC 1012. Third Report from the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards, Session 2012-13, Proprietary Trading, HC 1034. Fourth Report from the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards, Session 2012-13, ‘An Accident waiting to happen’: The failure of HBOS, HC 705. First Report from the Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards, Changing banking for good, HC 175-I and II.]

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

566 cc213-264 

Session

2013-14

Department

Treasury

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
First Report. Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards first report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 19 December 2012
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Banking Reform: a new structure for stability and growth
Monday, 4 February 2013
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Banking reform: towards the right structure. Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards second report with formal minutes.
Tuesday, 26 February 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proprietary trading. Parliamentary Commission on Banking Standards third report with formal minutes.
Tuesday, 5 March 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons

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Proceeding contributions

Chris Leslie | 566 c213 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

John Bercow | 566 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 10—Sale of state-owned...


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Chris Leslie | 566 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)

Here we are again—a second bite at the Financial Services (Banking Reform) Bill. Today, we debate...

Barry Sheerman | 566 c215 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that help is needed not just for new entrants, but for unusual, smaller ...

Chris Leslie | 566 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the Co-operative bank, and all other institutions, will now be in a position to make ...

Barry Sheerman | 566 c215 (Link to this contribution)

Many of my constituents worked for the Halifax mutual building society, and we saw what really ca...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc216-7 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Those are the very issues that should be in the Bill, but it is a pretty thin measure...

Viscount Thurso | 566 c217 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has gone to the heart of one of our key recommendations, but what we had in mi...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc217-8 (Link to this contribution)

I hoped that legislation would not be necessary, but I think it worthwhile for the House to expre...

Barry Sheerman | 566 c218 (Link to this contribution)

Would my hon. Friend add to that list cloud funding and cloud sourcing, which many people think i...

Chris Leslie | 566 c218 (Link to this contribution)

As some have said in the past, the magic of the “interweb” will ensure that customers can avoid t...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc218-9 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I think it is important that we make sure the foundations are put in place to allow those n...

Jonathan Edwards | 566 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Does the shadow Minister therefore believe we should follow what the US has done? It has a commun...

Chris Leslie | 566 c219 (Link to this contribution)

And not just towards London, as a lot of the major banks have had their appetites whetted to make...

Caroline Lucas | 566 c219 (Link to this contribution)

May I interpret the hon. Gentleman’s warm words to mean that Labour would support my new clause 1...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

Well, personally I prefer our new clause 10, but that is a good try by the hon. Lady. She has rai...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 c220 (Link to this contribution)

Interestingly, when we get into the nitty-gritty of how the seven-day switching process will work...

Chris Leslie | 566 c220 (Link to this contribution)

That is the worry, and we want to see how it is going to work. It is all very well if direct debi...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 c220 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that he is more likely to get divorced than to change his bank accoun...

Chris Leslie | 566 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Funnily enough, divorce has already come up a couple of times in our proceedings, and I am sure t...

Andrew Love | 566 c221 (Link to this contribution)

The reality is that the seven-day switching service must be matched against increases in the leve...

Chris Leslie | 566 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Sir John Vickers pointed out in his report that a typical customer is likely to move ...

Barry Sheerman | 566 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I switched a business account to HBOS, without knowing that anything was going to happen, because...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

That broadens things out into a whole new terrain, but suffice it to say, we should be able to tr...

Pat McFadden | 566 c222 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that the banking commission recommended having a proper study of the goo...

Chris Leslie | 566 c222 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is completely correct about that. If the British public realised what has ha...

Stewart Hosie | 566 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I am very supportive of new clause 10, particularly the notion that the Government describe how t...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I would have thought that before the Government considered a sale they would decide what they wan...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 cc223-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be able to speak about this Bill on banking reform, which is so crucial to the ...

Jonathan Edwards | 566 c224 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady alluded to the allegedly competitive market in the energy sector, where there is a ...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 cc224-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to that, and that will become clearer in the course of my comments. Certainly, in ...

Andrew Love | 566 c226 (Link to this contribution)

Is not one of the problems—this was certainly highlighted in our investigations—the ownership of ...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 cc226-8 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and he has certainly been a keen supporter of bank n...

Caroline Lucas | 566 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity to speak to my new clause 15. It is a modest...

Jonathan Edwards | 566 c229 (Link to this contribution)

To what extent has the hon. Lady been influenced by the system in the US, where there is a strong...

Caroline Lucas | 566 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman cites one of the few examples in the United States and its economic system tha...

Mark Garnier | 566 cc230-2 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to speak substantially to new clause 14, which stands in the name of my hon. Friend the Me...

David Ruffley | 566 c232 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend, and I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for South Northampton...

Mark Garnier | 566 c233 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, without a shadow of a doubt. A great many of the smaller banks that are looking to enter the...

Pat McFadden | 566 cc233-4 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make a few points about new clauses 10, 12 and 14.

New clause 10 deals with secur...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 c234 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman may recall a meeting we had with senior bankers in which they said that,...

Pat McFadden | 566 c235 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady may be right and that is another reason that we should have a proper report to dril...

Mark Garnier | 566 c235 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman raises an incredibly important point. I think that the vast majority of ...

Pat McFadden | 566 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that important point. If consumers are going to have confid...

Viscount Thurso | 566 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

I also rise to support new clause 14 tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for South Northamptonshi...

Andrea Leadsom | 566 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I do have great expectations of the Minister’s response.

Viscount Thurso | 566 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to say something about “A Tale of Two Cities”, but I will leave it at my hon. Friend’...

Viscount Thurso | 566 cc236-7 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, something like that.

I am very tempted by new clauses 8 and 10, which were tabled by t...

Greg Clark | 566 cc237-8 (Link to this contribution)

This has been an interesting debate so far, and it will be a tall order to live up to the great e...

Greg Clark | 566 cc238-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for my hon. Friend’s contribution.

Government amendment 5 delivers on a commi...

Andrew Love | 566 c239 (Link to this contribution)

Given that the new payments regulator will take some time to set up, I hope that the Minister wil...

Greg Clark | 566 c239 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly will keep a close eye on that, as too, I am absolutely certain, will my hon. Friend t...

Lord Tyrie | 566 c239 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that, were there not to be a referral, the Government will ensure a ful...

Greg Clark | 566 c240 (Link to this contribution)

That is happening. The review that the OFT is carrying out is comprehensive—it will keep us infor...

Andrew Love | 566 c240 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the right hon. Gentleman for jumping in rather late, but before he leaves the issu...

Greg Clark | 566 cc240-1 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman will be reassured or alarmed to learn that I had not lef...

Caroline Lucas | 566 c241 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that constraints on the amounts that larger credit unions—such as the Ea...

Greg Clark | 566 c241 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to take that forward. The hon. Lady will be aware that we have liberalised the rules f...

Chris Leslie | 566 c241 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is talking about the edifice of propriety, in relation to UKFI and so forth, but it ...

Greg Clark | 566 c242 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman knows full well that that is a matter for the board of RBS, not for the Govern...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc242-3 (Link to this contribution)

We have had a long, well-informed debate, and I pay tribute to Members on both sides of the House...

Michael Fabricant | 566 c253 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. In the light of the fact that the International Monetary ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 566 c253 (Link to this contribution)

On the last part of the hon. Gentleman’s question, I think that he has already achieved what he w...

Greg Clark | 566 cc253-4 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

It is good to start the debate wit...

Lord Tyrie | 566 c254 (Link to this contribution)

I am very reassured by what I have heard from the Minister. It seems from what he said that it re...

Greg Clark | 566 cc254-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his remarks. He is right that we are of one mind on the need ...

Lord Tyrie | 566 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I may have misheard. Does that mean that we will get two days to consider Lords amendments?

Greg Clark | 566 cc255-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is nothing if not tenacious as well as ingenious, and his hearing is acute. He wil...

Chris Leslie | 566 cc256-8 (Link to this contribution)

After that tour of various languages, all of which I am sure were in order as Norman French is th...

Guy Opperman | 566 cc257-9 (Link to this contribution)

After the global banking crash, my constituents in Northumberland wanted to see better banking, h...

Lindsay Hoyle | 566 c259 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I know that the hon. Gentleman is going to draw his speech into the Third Reading, because...

Guy Opperman | 566 c259 (Link to this contribution)

I will totally draw it into Third Reading, Mr Deputy Speaker. Those particular persons are very m...

Pat McFadden | 566 cc259-260 (Link to this contribution)

This is an unusual Bill, in that at the same time that it has sought to implement a reform recomm...

Greg Clark | 566 c260 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is not giving the response a fair reading. First, not all of the recomme...

Pat McFadden | 566 cc260-1 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the Minister and I have different interpretations of the word “broad”. He may be able to ...

David Rutley | 566 cc261-2 (Link to this contribution)

I was not able to participate in the Public Bill Committee or the parliamentary commission, but I...

Lord Mann | 566 cc262-3 (Link to this contribution)

A vast amount of hard work has been diligently done for such a puny and inadequate set of proposa...

David Rutley | 566 c263 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not recognise that there are options for fully guaranteed savings with Na...

Lord Mann | 566 cc263-4 (Link to this contribution)

I sit on the Treasury Select Committee; the hon. Gentleman served on it, so we have a modicum mor...

Lindsay Hoyle | 566 c264 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Mr Mann, your time is up—that is the story of your life at the moment.

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