Health and Social Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 19 December 2011, in the House of Lords.

Health and Social Care Bill. Lords committee stage fourteenth day. Clauses 187 to 245 agreed, with clauses 187, 188, 240, 246 agreed to as amended. Schedules 16 and 17 agreed to. Schedule 18 agreed to amended.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

733 c1519-65, 1576-600, 1614-48

Session

2010-12

Deposited Paper DEP2012-0007
Thursday, 22 December 2011
Deposited papers
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Constitution Select Committee (HL) eighteenth report on the Health and Social Care Bill.
Wednesday, 14 September 2011
Parliamentary committees
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Nineteenth report on: Health and Social Care Bill; London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill; Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Bill. (Lords Minutes).
Friday, 14 October 2011
Parliamentary committees
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Northover | 733 c1554-5 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to take up the noble Baroness’s suggestion that we discuss this further. I hope she ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 733 c1555 (Link to this contribution) 337A: After Clause 202, insert the following new Clause— ““Power to regulate pharmacists (1) The Med...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1555 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. On the basis of that and of further discussions, I beg...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1558 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. I would have put my name to it, had I had the opportunity. Howeve...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1558 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall add a few words because a pharmacist contacted me. Pharmacists are being encourage...

Earl Howe | 733 c1559 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment relates to an important issue: the concerns among pharmacists about the risk...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1556-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. It raises a very important issue, namely what happens when an err...

Lord Clement-Jones | 733 c1555-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment has been tabled with the support and assistance of the Royal Pharmaceutical ...

Baroness Jolly | 733 c1557-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support this amendment. I have some personal experience that I can bring to bear, ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1557 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support this amendment. I remind the Committee of my role as chair of the Council ...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 733 c1519-22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendments 330, 333 and 334 in this group. I draw attention to issues important...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1522-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to the amendment to which I have added my name in relation to children, but also s...

Earl Howe | 733 c1519 (Link to this contribution) 327ZC: Clause 187, page 188, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) In subsection (5), for ““this section, se...

Earl Howe | 733 c1519 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unusually, it falls to me to introduce this group of amendments. In moving Amendment 327ZC...

Baroness Greengross | 733 c1523-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 332A follows well from the previous two speakers. It would ensure that integr...

Baroness Wilkins | 733 c1526-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully support the amendment just spoken to by the noble Baroness, Lady Jolly, in relatio...

Baroness Jolly | 733 c1524-6 (Link to this contribution) I have put my name to Amendments 328B and 330ZAA. I send the apologies of the noble Baroness, Lady T...

Lord Low of Dalston | 733 c1528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my voice very briefly to those of the noble Baronesses, Lady Wilkins and Lady Finlay...

Lord Ramsbotham | 733 c1527-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to my amendment, Amendment 330C, which relates to the fact that offender h...

Baroness Donaghy | 733 c1529-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of Llandaff, which refer to al...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c1529 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak about the importance of the role of the police. I made my maiden speech in...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c1530-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I address my remarks to Amendment 330ZAB and others that concern the composition of the he...

Baroness Benjamin | 733 c1531-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, childhood lasts a lifetime. Whatever happens to people during childhood, they will take wi...

Lord Warner | 733 c1532 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to say a few words about children in this group of amendments. I know and agree wit...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1532-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these few clauses relating to health and well-being boards are perhaps less politically ex...

Baroness Barker | 733 c1547-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is not on these amendments, but I want to make a couple of points, partly because ...

Lord Warner | 733 c1548 (Link to this contribution) Could I just clarify for the noble Baroness that I do not claim that my wording is perfect? I brough...

Lord Patel | 733 c1546 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have my name on these amendments. Of course, we have had an opportunity to discuss integ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1546-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is on Amendment 332. As other noble Lords have said, the Committee hardly needs re...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1550 (Link to this contribution) If a new health and well-being board got in touch with the Minister, or perhaps with the Commissioni...

Earl Howe | 733 c1550 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have to give credit to people on the ground to be the professionals that we know them t...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1548 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be very brief because my noble friend and other noble Lords have pretty much covere...

Earl Howe | 733 c1548-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments from the noble Lord, Lord Warner, are primarily concerned with strengthen...

Baroness Murphy | 733 c1545-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to these amendments. Like the noble Lord, Lord Warner, I have come ba...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 733 c1550 (Link to this contribution) I will pursue for a minute mechanisms for an early decision. I do so because the health and well-bei...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1551 (Link to this contribution) 337: After Clause 198, insert the following new Clause— ““Health Service Ombudsman for England and H...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1551-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill in vast part concerns England only. This amendment concerns both England and Wal...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 733 c1552-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the combination of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, and the noble Lords, Lord Walton of De...

Baroness Wheeler | 733 c1553 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment from the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, and I am grateful to her fo...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1553-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment links to an important point of principle which we wholeheartedly support: th...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1554 (Link to this contribution) I seek a little clarification. If I have understood right, the noble Baroness said that any provider...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1554 (Link to this contribution) To clarify, I say that all care paid for by the NHS in England is covered—that is the crucial thing....

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1554 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to detain the House much further, but I think this is something we need to discuss, an...

Earl Howe | 733 c1550 (Link to this contribution) This is exactly why we have established the early implementer health and well-being boards. These co...

Lord Warner | 733 c1550-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for the support that they have given, and indeed am grati...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1537 (Link to this contribution) I think we need to set out a minimum requirement. That is all I am seeking to do. I am not seeking t...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c1537 (Link to this contribution) It is in the Bill.

Lord Beecham | 733 c1537 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly right. They do not have a vote in the council, which determines a budget of several ...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c1537 (Link to this contribution) I do not really accept the noble Lord’s criticism of my thinking. Of course I understand that these ...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1536 (Link to this contribution) In the first place, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Mawhinney, for recognising when I am on my...

Baroness Murphy | 733 c1536 (Link to this contribution) Can we be quite clear that the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, is asking for a health and well-being joint...

Lord Mawhinney | 733 c1536 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord. I think he knows that I listen carefully to him when he is on ...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1537-8 (Link to this contribution) Rubbish is the responsibility of district councils, as the noble Baroness, Lady Jolly, would point o...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1537 (Link to this contribution) The minimum requirement in the Bill is the wrong requirement. That is the point for some of us, at a...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1542 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will build slightly on that because I have my name on the same amendments. I understand ...

Earl Howe | 733 c1542-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can assure the noble Baroness that the substance of this debate will most certainly be f...

Lord Warner | 733 c1543 (Link to this contribution) 332: Clause 192, page 193, line 31, leave out ““an integrated manner”” and insert ““a manner that in...

Earl Howe | 733 c1538-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments has prompted a very worthwhile debate. They all relate to health ...

Lord Beecham | 733 c1539 (Link to this contribution) Does that mean that it will be the local outpost, if that is the correct phrase, of the national Com...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 733 c1542 (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister tease out for us the difference between the words ““may”” and ““must””? Is he say...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 733 c1544-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches have strongly supported the many references to integration that have b...

Lord Warner | 733 c1543-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 335 and 336, which I degrouped from the previous grouping...

Earl Howe | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) 344C: Schedule 18, page 420, leave out lines 22 to 26 Amendment 344C agreed. Schedule 18, as amend...

Baroness Rawlings | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resume. We are most grateful to noble Lords for their ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) Is not the point that NICE enjoys a global reputation for the excellence of its work, as we discusse...

Earl Howe | 733 c1647 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I can assist my noble friend. Clause 240 enables NICE to undertake additional funct...

Lord Naseby | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) I understand that and I understand the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. Nevertheless, to the...

Earl Howe | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is exactly right. He will know from his time as a Minister with responsibility in thi...

Lord Warner | 733 c1646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the total purpose of my Amendment 342 was to inject some momentum into the process of deli...

Earl Howe | 733 c1645-6 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is quite right and no legislation can provide for that culture change, as she wil...

Lord Naseby | 733 c1647 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Deputy Speaker called the amendment and it was agreed, but I did not specifically hear...

Earl Howe | 733 c1646-7 (Link to this contribution) 344A: Clause 240, page 237, line 23, leave out ““its functions”” and insert ““any function it has un...

Earl Howe | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) 344B: Clause 246, page 239, line 16, after ““Consultation”” insert ““with any person”” Amendment 34...

Earl Howe | 733 c1648 (Link to this contribution) I will take advice on why ““manufacture”” is in the Bill and come back to my noble friend. Clause 2...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1582-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Emerton, for her perseverance and determin...

Lord Alderdice | 733 c1581-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also have some scepticism about assured voluntary registration, but I will come back to ...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1587 (Link to this contribution) I should perhaps explain that more precisely. This issue will be constantly under review so that if ...

Lord Warner | 733 c1587 (Link to this contribution) One question has puzzled me more and more as the noble Baroness has progressed. My noble friend Lady...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1586 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Baroness, Lady Pitkeathley, and others have indicated, one has to be proportionate abou...

Lord Patel | 733 c1587 (Link to this contribution) I wish to pick up on one point. Can the noble Baroness reassure us on what it is she will keep under...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1586 (Link to this contribution) Regulation and training are often put as two words in one sentence. Regulation may indeed include tr...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1586 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I still do not understand this. If it is so important that the voluntary registers are est...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1584-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments seek to extend compulsory statutory regulation to healthcare support work...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1585-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the Government are putting so much faith in the quality-assured voluntary register, sur...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1587 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord will be familiar with being on wards at changeover time and when there is a pooling o...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1588 (Link to this contribution) I have seen many, many changeovers. The proposal is being brought forward so that registered, regula...

Lord Warner | 733 c1587 (Link to this contribution) I have seen changeovers at weekends, when visiting relatives. It is not a pretty sight.

Baroness Emerton | 733 c1589 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am prepared to withdraw but we will probably come back to this on Report. I beg leave to...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1589 (Link to this contribution) 338ZA: After Clause 205, insert the following new Clause— ““Power to regulate clinical physiologists...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1589-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 338ZB, 338F and 339ZB. We return to a regulatory issue. A...

Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 733 c1588 (Link to this contribution) But if that healthcare assistant does not have the basic training or an understanding of the reading...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1588 (Link to this contribution) I am not suggesting that they would. What I am suggesting is that the registered nurse might go and ...

Baroness Emerton | 733 c1588-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I could be helpful at this stage. I am grateful to noble Lords who have contribute...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1589 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Baroness says. She is extremely well informed, as ever, and I hope that she wi...

Lord Clement-Jones | 733 c1559-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I also thank all noble Lords and noble Baronesses w...

Lord Clement-Jones | 733 c1560 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister chooses an even more felicitous phrase. I thank him, and I look forward to fu...

Baroness Emerton | 733 c1560-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to this amendment in my name on the power to regulate healthcare support wor...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1564-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to Amendment 338, as I strongly agree with the Royal College of Nursing...

Lord Patel | 733 c1576-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 338 and 340, to which I have added my name in support of the n...

Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 733 c1577-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have long been an advocate in the cause of statutory regulation and registration of heal...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1579-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very sorry to take issue with the opinions of noble Lords with whom I usually agree m...

Lord Warner | 733 c1580-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am speaking because my name is also on this amendment. We need to reflect on several asp...

Earl Howe | 733 c1640 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will drop the noble Lord a letter on the funding direction, but it is our intention to p...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1640 (Link to this contribution) —not the mess, my Lords, but my noble friend’s vigorous discussions—because of the wish to ensure th...

Lord Warner | 733 c1641 (Link to this contribution) 342: Clause 231, page 232, line 11, leave out ““may direct NICE to prepare statements of standards””...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1641 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful and beg leave to withdraw my amendment. Amendment 340W withdrawn. Amendmen...

Lord Patel | 733 c1642-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support this amendment and Amendment 343, which has been tabled in my name. Alt...

Lord Warner | 733 c1641-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, Amendment 342 is in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Patel, who will spea...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1643-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow on from the noble Lord, Lord Owen. Clause 231 says: "““The relevant commissioner ...

Lord Owen | 733 c1643 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanation earlier. I found much of it convincing, particularly his st...

Baroness Emerton | 733 c1645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, could I just interrupt to ask a question about the evidence-based quality standards? Where...

Earl Howe | 733 c1644-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, NICE’s independence is the foundation of its reputation as an authoritative source of evid...

Lord Warner | 733 c1640 (Link to this contribution) The mess.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1639-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl. At heart, there are two key issues here. One is the indep...

Earl Howe | 733 c1637-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that NICE is held in very high regard by noble Lords in the Committee. The Governme...

Lord Patel | 733 c1636-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 344 tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Warner. NICE should c...

Lord Owen | 733 c1635-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to extol the merits of NICE after watching it from the other side, which is the pha...

Lord Warner | 733 c1634-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 344 in this group, in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Patel, and the no...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1634 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment brings us to NICE. I start by paying tribute to its work, and I should say ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1634 (Link to this contribution) 340W: Schedule 17, page 413, line 15, leave out sub-paragraph (2) and insert— ““( ) The Chair will b...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1633 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all the supporters of the amendment. In an ideal situation, what the Minister has ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1630 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in response to the two noble Lords from the Cross Benches who have spoken, the thinking of...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1630-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a very helpful offer from my noble friend. I welcome the debate and I am grateful ...

Lord Ramsbotham | 733 c1628-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to speak to my two amendments to Clause 225. I must admit that they are probing ame...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1627-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now have another bite at a very important cherry. My amendments in this group seek to p...

Baroness Barker | 733 c1630 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a great deal of sympathy with what the noble Lord, Lord Walton, has said. If noble ...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c1630 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief but, as always, my noble friend Lady Masham was very persuasive. I have a...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1625-6 (Link to this contribution) As I just said, the HPC is currently consulting. I strongly suggest that the noble Baroness feeds in...

Baroness Meacher | 733 c1625 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the Minister would consider that there should be a compulsory requirement. If the H...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1627 (Link to this contribution) 339A: Clause 225, page 224, line 46, leave out ““voluntary””

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1626-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful for the noble Baroness’s response. Of course I agree with her last poin...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1624-5 (Link to this contribution) I will write with all the details so that noble Lords can see that there is no falling back in terms...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c1623 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting and I do not wish to prolong the debate but the noble Baroness was kind...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1623 (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to write to the noble Baroness. In the discussions that I have had with various...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1621-2 (Link to this contribution) These amendments on whether the clauses should stand part relate to the transfer of the regulation o...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1622 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness says that, but my understanding is that the latest estimate given by the GSCC is ...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 733 c1621 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, prompted only by the debate, I ask one simple question of my noble friend on the Front Ben...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1623 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I would agree with that. If the noble Baroness bears in mind that the HPC will re...

Baroness Meacher | 733 c1623 (Link to this contribution) Would the Minister be willing to write to me to explain how these things will work? As I understand ...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1622-3 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord will be aware, the figures provided by the General Social Care Council indicated t...

Baroness Meacher | 733 c1623 (Link to this contribution) May I ask the Minister whether she agrees that the standards set by the HPC are just lower than stan...

Baroness Meacher | 733 c1617-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the opposition of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, to Clauses 206 and 208 to 211 stand...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1616-7 (Link to this contribution) If I were to say that I did not trust the Health Professions Council, that might be taken as rather ...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c1620-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief because most of what I would hope to say has already been said by the nob...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1619-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have interests to declare other than being chair of the Council for Healthcare Regulator...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1599 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely happy to acknowledge that.

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1599-600 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for that. The noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, made a graphic and powerful ca...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1614-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we come to one of the most important parts of the Bill—the regulation of social workers. A...

Lord Mawhinney | 733 c1616 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a couple of minutes ago, the noble Lord said that he was not going to make any criticism o...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c1616 (Link to this contribution) I cannot see any contradiction, although I will of course search my mind to see whether I have been ...

Lord Mawhinney | 733 c1616 (Link to this contribution) But is the noble Lord not in effect saying that he does not trust the HPC properly to discharge its ...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1599 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister, but this is not yet a satisfactory situation. We might be moving tow...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1598-9 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to take away what the noble Baroness has said and to discuss the situation further w...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1598 (Link to this contribution) I have listened very carefully to what has been said about the assistants relating to anaesthesia, b...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1598 (Link to this contribution) I have already mentioned to the noble Baroness—she is probably totally familiar with this—that the D...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1598 (Link to this contribution) The health Minister Anne Milton said that those professions in which a patient safety case can be ma...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c1597 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister could tell us what sort of timescale she envisages for this, or whether it will...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1597-8 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness will be fully aware, because she was a health Minister, that if there is no evide...

Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 733 c1596 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this group of amendments. I want to make just a couple of points, as I think tha...

Baroness Northover | 733 c1596-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments seek to extend compulsory statutory regulation to physicians’ assistants ...

Lord Alderdice | 733 c1595 (Link to this contribution) It may seem a little unclear to the noble Lord, but it is not so unclear. Psychologists are qualifie...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c1594-5 (Link to this contribution) What is troubling me about this whole exercise is that, under the Health Professions Council, statut...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 733 c1593 (Link to this contribution) What proportion of voluntary persons employed in operating theatres are expected to be affected? Is ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1593 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to sound like a broken record in always resisting more statutory regulation ...

Lord Alderdice | 733 c1594 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to press this question in the context of the amendments in this group. What ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c1593 (Link to this contribution) Currently, a great proportion are in statutory regulation, given that voluntary regulation is being ...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c1590 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should just like to add my support for this amendment. Clinical physiologists, who perfo...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c1591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to ask the Minister to clarify a point of some importance. Many years ago, i...

Lord Rea | 733 c1591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in supporting this amendment I declare an interest. Not only my former patients but I, as ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1591-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments is very interesting as it reveals the enormous number of people i...

Earl Howe | 733 c1542 (Link to this contribution) I hope the noble Baroness will have sensed from my remarks that we want to avoid being overprescript...

Earl Howe | 733 c1560 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me simply say that my noble friend’s exhortation has been very firmly registered.

Baroness Northover | 733 c1631-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for these amendments, which raise important issues about the ways in w...

Earl Howe | 733 c1539-42 (Link to this contribution) It will almost certainly be the local outpost that will have direct responsibility for those matters...

Baroness Emerton | 733 c1560 (Link to this contribution) 338: After Clause 205, insert the following new Clause— ““Power to regulate health care support work...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c1595 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add a small point. I do not know how many physicians in anaesthesia are employed in op...