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Health and Social Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 16 November 2011, in the House of Lords, led by Earl Howe.
Health and Social Care Bill. Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 7 to 19 agreed to, with clause 14 agreed to as amended.

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732 c690-810 

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2010-12

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Northover | 732 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) I think that that point comes through loud and clear from this debate. I note what the noble Barones...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c770 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly disturbed that so far the Minister has given us lots of coulds and maybes and ““there ...

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Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 732 c766 (Link to this contribution) I have put my name to Amendment 202 which deals with general practitioners. I do not intend to detai...
Lord Rea | 732 c766 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a former GP, I echo the words of my noble friend Lord MacKenzie. Screening for alcoholi...
Lord Northbourne | 732 c766 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay. One thing that has so far ...
Baroness Northover | 732 c768-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments 71, 71A, 72, 74A, 202, 328, 329 and 331, make alternations to local authorities...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c766-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to comment on these excellent amendments, and to support my noble friend Lord Beech...
Baroness Northover | 732 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) I note what the noble Lord has said in regard to his Government. I would be astonished if those work...
Lord Turnberg | 732 c769 (Link to this contribution) In the review that the Government are undertaking, will they take note of the publication on alcohol...
Baroness Northover | 732 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my apologies if I leapt up far too soon. I caught the noble Lord’s colleague’s eye and it ...
Lord Sharkey | 732 c741 (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have spoken to the amendments and I thank the Minister for her response....
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c741 (Link to this contribution) 66: Clause 8, page 4, line 38, at end insert— ““( ) providing services for the prevention and treatm...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the Committee will agree that it would be more convenient to discuss the spirit of ...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c742 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness. This small amount of grouping and degrouping was partly to do ...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 732 c742-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is interesting that there is not a universally accepted definition of public health. Th...
Baroness Northover | 732 c744 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 66 would add alcohol services to the list of examples that the Secretary of Stat...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 732 c744 (Link to this contribution) We are talking about a ring-fenced budget; we are not talking about a general local government budge...
Baroness Northover | 732 c744 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is absolutely right. This is not simply philosophy. Therefore, regulations will p...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c745 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is giving a list—and there are at least two further lists in Clauses 8 and 9. I cannot ...
Baroness Northover | 732 c745 (Link to this contribution) I can see the temptation. The list in the Bill is indicative. These lists are always subject to much...
Lord Rooker | 732 c745-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a brief probing amendment that is mirrored by my noble friend’s Amendment 75A, whi...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c747 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Government will be able to give some assurance that environmental health w...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c745 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 66 withdrawn. Amendment 66A not moved. Amendment...
Lord Rooker | 732 c745 (Link to this contribution) 67: Clause 8, page 4, line 38, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of State shall appoint a Chief Env...
Lord Greaves | 732 c749 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord raised the question of funding. Does he agree that this will perhaps be exacerbated i...
Lord Greaves | 732 c747-8 (Link to this contribution) I echo everything that the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has just said. The noble Lord, Lord Rooker, ...
Lord Whitty | 732 c749-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will leave that question for the Minister, because it clearly raises wider issues. I tot...
Baroness Northover | 732 c751-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, for giving me the opportunity to highlight the outsta...
Lord Rooker | 732 c753-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her reply, and particularly for reminding me about the f...
Lord Northbourne | 732 c754 (Link to this contribution) 68AA: Clause 9, page 5, line 13, after first ““the”” insert ““physical and mental””
Lord Northbourne | 732 c754-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since I set down these amendments a good deal of water has passed under the bridge. Fortun...
Lord Rea | 732 c750 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to intervene on this amendment, but just from memory, I can think of se...
Lord Beecham | 732 c750-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in my youth—your Lordships might think it a rather sad youth—I was, at age 25, opposition ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 732 c755 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord cannot withdraw the amendment until he has moved it. The Question is whether Amendmen...
Lord Northbourne | 732 c756 (Link to this contribution) I beg the Committee’s pardon. I was trying to withdraw the amendment before having moved it. I beg t...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c757 (Link to this contribution) I should just say how pleased I am that the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, has brought his great expe...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c759-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the House for being so accommodating in moving the amendments slightly so...
Baroness Hollins | 732 c761-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Finlay has eloquently explained, alcohol misuse is one of the majo...
Lord Northbourne | 732 c759 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Earl for giving so many excellent assurances on the questions that I...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c759 (Link to this contribution) 71: Clause 9, page 5, line 17, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””
Baroness Hollins | 732 c758 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I might add that Amendments 68A and 69A refer back to Clause 1 and the Secretary of State’...
Earl Howe | 732 c758 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should be happy to speak to the noble Baroness on this topic. I have been reflecting on ...
Earl Howe | 732 c757-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, mentioned, the two amendments in this group, Amendmen...
Lord Turnberg | 732 c764-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to speak to the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of...
Lord Wigley | 732 c762-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise with some trepidation as this Bill applies to England only, although there are some...
Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 732 c763-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Earl will accept these amendments. In many respects they are very mo...
Baroness Hollins | 732 c805-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted to have this opportunity to support the amendment of the noble Baroness, La...
Baroness Wilkins | 732 c804-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 92A is tabled in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, and the ...
Lord Lucas | 732 c809 (Link to this contribution) Does my noble friend want my 15-minute speech now or will he promise me a meeting before Report stag...
Baroness Barker | 732 c804 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to get into that debate, which I think we have not yet come to, but I thank ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c804 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I might just come back to the noble Baroness. Would she agree that this is a point...
Baroness Barker | 732 c804 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for drawing attention to a very important point that I think has ...
Baroness Barker | 732 c803-4 (Link to this contribution) That might have been the case, but I recall that under the Government of which he was a member, a fa...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c803 (Link to this contribution) There is one very big difference. In the legislation I was bringing forward, we retained the clear a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c802-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is an invitation to which I am sure the noble Earl was looking forward. The amendment...
Lord Lucas | 732 c802 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have Amendment 92 in this group. I have a long speech on this, but my noble friend has w...
Lord Hennessy of Nympsfield | 732 c801 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the unavoidable absence of my noble friend Lady Williams of Crosby and the noble Lord, ...
Lord Hennessy of Nympsfield | 732 c800 (Link to this contribution) 90: Clause 17, page 12, line 32, leave out ““Regulations may”” and insert ““The Secretary of State m...
Earl Howe | 732 c800 (Link to this contribution) 88: Clause 14, page 9, line 24, after ““(1)(d)”” insert ““— (i) ”” 89: Clause 14, page 9, line 25,...
Earl Howe | 732 c798-800 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, has introduced these two amendments which deal with the importa...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c798 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 86. This is very much a probing amendment designed to elic...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c798 (Link to this contribution) 85: Clause 13, page 8, line 11, leave out subsection (2)
Baroness Barker | 732 c803 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot remember which legislation it was, but I know for a fact that I was sitting on th...
Baroness Barker | 732 c810 (Link to this contribution) 92ZZA: Clause 17, page 13, line 32, at end insert— ““(5A) Regulations must also secure procedures fo...
Lord Hennessy of Nympsfield | 732 c809 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for his, as always, very thoughtful reply. I am grateful, too, to...
Earl Howe | 732 c809 (Link to this contribution) I can undertake to meet my noble friend, whom I am always pleased to talk to. I hope that I am not u...
Lord Ramsbotham | 732 c772 (Link to this contribution) 72A: Clause 9, page 5, line 23, at end insert— ““( ) providing services to improve communication ski...
Lord Ramsbotham | 732 c772-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was hoping to speak in support of my noble friend Lord Northbourne, who introduced a who...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 732 c774-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 97. I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, about the nee...
Baroness Wilkins | 732 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to the amendments to which I have added my name, and urge the Minister to ensure t...
Lord Sentamu | 732 c771 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister resumes her seat, I would ask: if the matter is so serious, what is the problem with...
Baroness Whitaker | 732 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 72A, 81A, 91A, 200A, 201ZA, 327B, 327C, 329A, 331C and 333B—a...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 732 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, was not here to move his amendment. Howe...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c778-9 (Link to this contribution) I have added my name to one of the amendments in this group but support many of the others. The key ...
Lord Clement-Jones | 732 c778 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. He clearly has a great deal of su...
Baroness Hollins | 732 c791-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 203C and 215A. Although the Bill places a duty on each clinica...
Baroness Barker | 732 c792 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to address briefly the question that Clause 15 should stand part of the Bill raised...
Lord Beecham | 732 c793-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, public health started in local government some 160 years ago—and as many of us have previo...
Baroness Northover | 732 c794 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with Amendments 73 and 75, the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, has correctly identified the impor...
Lord Greaves | 732 c794 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend very much indeed for that. While the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, and I may come...
Baroness Northover | 732 c794-6 (Link to this contribution) Well, there we are—at this time of day, just before a recess, we have cross-party consensus. Shall w...
Lord Rooker | 732 c797 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister and for the support for the fact that we need to address thi...
Baroness Northover | 732 c797 (Link to this contribution) I am reassured that she is slightly clarified. This has been yet another important exploration of ho...
Earl Howe | 732 c782-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords who tabled amendments in this group have drawn attention to the particular nee...
Baroness Whitaker | 732 c785 (Link to this contribution) It is the same question. In the noble Earl’s very comprehensive answer, did I miss whether speech, l...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c779-82 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a very important debate and the first opportunity we have had to look at the propo...
Lord Ramsbotham | 732 c785 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his habitually thorough and sympathetic summing up. I think we ca...
Lord Rooker | 732 c786 (Link to this contribution) 73: Clause 9, page 5, line 32, at end insert— ““( ) promoting co-operation between each of the autho...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c785 (Link to this contribution) While the noble Earl is collecting questions that we feel were not answered, I asked specifically ab...
Earl Howe | 732 c785 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will have to write to the noble Baroness on that question, and indeed some of the other ...
Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 732 c790-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendment 79A, to which my name is attached, which is about integration...
Lord Greaves | 732 c787-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall turn to Amendment 75ZA in my name in a minute. First, I congratulate the noble Lor...
Lord Rooker | 732 c786-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I return briefly to the point that I made as an aside on an earlier amendment regarding th...
Lord Kakkar | 732 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 83 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Patel. This amen...
Lord Ramsbotham | 732 c697-9 (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak to Amendment 80. I wonder how many noble Lords are aware of the historic nature of t...
Lord Cotter | 732 c701 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment 81B, to follow on from what the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, said. Brevity will...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 732 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having put my name to Amendment 79, I support the powerful case made by my noble friend Lo...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c693 (Link to this contribution) 60A: Clause 7, page 4, line 18, at end insert— ““( ) Each clinical commissioning group has the funct...
Lord Warner | 732 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 79 in my name and those of the noble Lord, Lord Patel, who unfortunat...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c693-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments brings us to the general function of clinical commissioning group...
Baroness Murphy | 732 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an interesting group of amendments about how prescriptive the powers and duties sh...
Earl Howe | 732 c690 (Link to this contribution) That the House do now resolve itself into Committee. That the House do now resolve itself into Comm...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 732 c692 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, wish to ask the Minister one additional question. Can he give any idea of how quic...
Lord Warner | 732 c692 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Earl responds, may I offer him a little piece of advice, as a former Heal...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 732 c692 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I read the report the other day and it seems to me that the Government are refusing to pub...
Earl Howe | 732 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) They will be held in the first instance by the NHS Commissioning Board. I anticipate that if a CCG o...
Lord Greaves | 732 c708 (Link to this contribution) I would like to get to the bottom of this while we are talking about it. At the moment, those capita...
Lord Warner | 732 c709 (Link to this contribution) Can the noble Earl help me, before we get to Report stage, on the issue of the integration of servic...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 732 c702-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wanted to intervene on this group of amendments because I have been trying, without succ...
Lord Greaves | 732 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to pick up on a point that I made on Monday. We are discussing the role, duties and...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 732 c704 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of important amendments illustrates that good care for all is what is needed. I...
Countess of Mar | 732 c704-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support Amendment 79 moved by the noble Lord, Lord Warner, although he s...
Earl Howe | 732 c705-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, CCGs will be under a duty to arrange for services to meet the reasonable requirements of p...
Lord Greaves | 732 c708 (Link to this contribution) In the example that I provided, it is not a service that I am talking about; it is a facility—a new ...
Earl Howe | 732 c708 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, and I apologise that I did not cover that point. There are, of cou...
Lord Warner | 732 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to prolong this debate. I was very grateful for all the support that I got a...
Lord Sharkey | 732 c730-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, each of the four amendments in my name is a probing amendment. All the amendments refer to...
Lord Sharkey | 732 c730 (Link to this contribution) 65A: Clause 8, page 4, line 37, at end insert ““in particular, public information and advice campaig...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 732 c733-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments relating to campaigns are very important. My question is: who will be car...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 732 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these amendments, which are so relevant to recent proposals in the Select Commit...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 732 c735-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is no provision on the Order Paper for debates on Clauses 8 or 9 to stand part. Rath...
Baroness Randerson | 732 c734-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak in support of these amendments tabled by my noble friend. I strongly welcome the p...
Baroness Northover | 732 c738-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments 65A, 71ZA, 97A and 133A seek to raise the priority within the Bill of public he...
Baroness Hollins | 732 c738 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly about the importance of information in an early diagnosis. I have tw...
Lord Beecham | 732 c740-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as we are in Committee, I can repair my omission in failing to anticipate the Minister’s r...
Baroness Northover | 732 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) I have a feeling that carpenters might disagree. Nevertheless, I take on board what the noble Barone...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c726 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the reassurance that the noble Baroness does not see any way of uncoupling diagnos...
Baroness Northover | 732 c728 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble Lord feels that I did not adequately deal with that. The point I made is t...
Lord Beecham | 732 c728 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her reply, although I shall resist the temptation to fol...
Baroness Northover | 732 c727 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says. To judge so quickly something which has only exploded on to the age...
Lord Warner | 732 c730 (Link to this contribution) 62: Clause 8, page 4, line 26, at end insert ““using the best scientific and other evidence availabl...
Lord Beecham | 732 c729-30 (Link to this contribution) Of course there is consultation going on. It has been going on for an inordinate amount of time and ...
Baroness Northover | 732 c729 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble Lord thought I did not cover the first point. I did not make myself clear....
Lord Beecham | 732 c728-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is surely clearer to have in one place the responsibility for reducing health inequalit...
Lord Warner | 732 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend raises a very important point. I can see some differences of approach here...
Lord Ribeiro | 732 c722 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to speak very strongly in support of Amendment 65 in the name of the noble L...
Lord Turnberg | 732 c721-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am also pleased that public health receives such high profile in this Bill. I speak to A...
Lord Warner | 732 c723 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to interrupt the noble Baroness on her debut at this point, but does she understand that ...
Baroness Northover | 732 c723 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given that my hard-working noble friend Lord Howe deserves at least a short break, I shall...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c717-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have some amendments in this group to which I would like to speak. The first is Amendmen...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 732 c716-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to express strong support from these Benches for the amendments spoken to by the no...
Baroness Cumberlege | 732 c719-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to make a short intervention to ask my noble friend one or two questions. Wh...
Lord Clement-Jones | 732 c719 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, from the outset the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and my noble friend Lady Williams have hit th...
Lord Warner | 732 c713-6 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the House for my enthusiasm to get in to this debate on public health, which I regard...
Baroness Jay of Paddington | 732 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether my noble friend could help me with something that seems to be implied in ...
Lord Beecham | 732 c711-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now come to the important area of public health. This is the time for your Lordships’ H...
Lord Beecham | 732 c711 (Link to this contribution) 60B: Clause 8, page 4, line 23, after ““protection”” insert ““and promotion””
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c710-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe, for his response. Essentially what he is sayin...
Earl Howe | 732 c710 (Link to this contribution) Part of the function of the board is to support decision-making at a local level if that is ever req...
Lord Cotter | 732 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has given a careful response, as always, to the points made. However, will he accept...
Earl Howe | 732 c709 (Link to this contribution) I understand the point the noble Lord is making and I will be happy to write to him and other member...
Lord Whitty | 732 c748-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as my noble friend Lord Rooker has said, I have an amendment in this group that is precise...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 732 c800 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl. On the role of the board in commissioning services, I wil...
Baroness Barker | 732 c810 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke to this amendment on Monday. The noble Earl, Lord Howe, replied in the depths of t...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 732 c765-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, providing services for the prevention and treatment of harmful drinking and alcohol depend...
Lord Northbourne | 732 c749 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may intervene now to ask the Minister to say, when he is winding up, what happen...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 732 c756-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not quite sure whether the amendment is before us or not, but I shall make a brief as...
Earl Howe | 732 c806-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the standing rules will set the ongoing legal requirements for both the NHS Commissioning ...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 732 c771-2 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the most reverend Primate for that very eloquent and sensible interjectio...
Earl Howe | 732 c692-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully appreciate the strength of feeling that noble Lords have on this matter and I hope...
Baroness Thornton | 732 c690-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to intervene on this Motion today with a very heavy heart—and empty-handed, because...
Lord Warner | 732 c727 (Link to this contribution) I suggest the noble Baroness reads the report of the inquiry chaired by the noble Baroness, Lady Neu...
Baroness Northover | 732 c723-6 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord flags up a concern that has been expressed about the independence of the new organisa...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 732 c710 (Link to this contribution) When the noble Earl was talking about the relationship between health and well-being boards and the ...
Earl Howe | 732 c710 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend and I did mean to make specific reference to his speech, which I fo...
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