Localism Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 23 June 2011, in the House of Lords.

Localism Bill. Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 12 to 21 agreed to. Schedules 2 to 4 agreed to, schedule 3 agreed to as amended.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

728 c1403-508

Session

2010-12

Proceeding contributions

Lord Beecham | 728 c1404 (Link to this contribution) 34: Schedule 2, page 189, line 27, at beginning insert ““Subject to receiving a proposal under sub-p...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1404 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments concerns governance issues, the part of the Bill to which we now ...

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Lord True | 728 c1404-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it might be helpful if I speak to my Amendment 37, which is in this group and relates to g...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1405-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have one amendment in the group and I shall speak to the others. I start by saying that ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1407-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have discussed with the Local Government Association and London Councils the central poi...

Lord Tope | 728 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I associate myself strongly with the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin. I know from ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment of my noble friend Lord True. In doing so, I declare an interest a...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1410-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have taken part in this quite long debate on the amendment, and I ...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1411 (Link to this contribution) I, too, remember the previous legislation, which brought in this new system. I do not know whether i...

Lord True | 728 c1412 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I am not behaving badly through inexperience, but I had wanted to respond to the remarks...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1411 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we believe that the leader and cabinet model is a good one. We also believe that the leade...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1411-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her reply and thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for the support that he g...

Baroness Byford | 728 c1413-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the slight difficulty arose because the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, got up to s...

Lord Wade of Chorlton | 728 c1414 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, listening to this discussion, I am prompted to remind the House that in 1994 the then Cons...

Baroness Byford | 728 c1412 (Link to this contribution) No, you need to move the amendment.

Lord True | 728 c1413 (Link to this contribution) I would like to move the amendment. My point is twofold. The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, others and I ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1414-5 (Link to this contribution) I think that I replied earlier because I had not realised that other people were going to take part ...

Lord True | 728 c1415 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for the final part of her response. I take some hope and encourage...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1415 (Link to this contribution) 39: Schedule 2, page 194, leave out lines 10 to 19 and insert— ““(1) A local authority that is opera...

Lord Tope | 728 c1417-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support my noble friend Lord Greaves. He certainly has more experience of rural...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1417 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendments 40 and 43 and, in doing so, endorse very much what the noble Lord, L...

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 728 c1417 (Link to this contribution) I must inform your Lordships that if Amendment 39 is agreed to I cannot call Amendment 40 by reason ...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1415-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 39 is the most important amendment in this group about area committees. It seeks...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1419 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord knows that I agree with him on that. It should be left to the good sense of local aut...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1419 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord agree that the best course would be to dispense with the clause altogether and l...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I commend the reply of the Minister on this group of amendments. I advise her to use that ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1418 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on this debate, I hear what noble Lords say. I shall reflect carefully on what has been sa...

Lord Tope | 728 c1419 (Link to this contribution) 44: Schedule 2, page 195, line 13, leave out ““, in particular,””

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1440 (Link to this contribution) I do not disagree, but I thought that the noble Lord said that he was also an enthusiast for freedom...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1441-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Wills, for his fairly extensive exposition on the Freedom of ...

Lord Wills | 728 c1442-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. Of course, I understand and I apologise again for not ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1443 (Link to this contribution) 56: Schedule 2, page 210, leave out lines 8 to 18

Lord True | 728 c1439 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am tempted to wonder how many pieces of information might have been released during the ...

Lord Wills | 728 c1433-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendments 133A to 133C and Amendment 181A, which are in my name. I ...

Lord True | 728 c1440 (Link to this contribution) Forgive me, my Lords, but openness and statutory freedom of information are not the same thing. They...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1440 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that we should thank my noble friend Lord Wills for giving us the opportunity to d...

Lord Wills | 728 c1433 (Link to this contribution) 52A: Schedule 2, page 207, leave out lines 27 to 30 and insert— ““(2) Except to the extent that regu...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1433 (Link to this contribution) I accept the Minister’s helpful suggestions, as ever, and I shall refer to the 2000 local government...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lady Scott of Needham Market, perhaps I may give a very ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1446 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I guess that I am grateful to some extent for the Minister’s explanation, but I am not sur...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1446 (Link to this contribution) 57: Schedule 2, page 210, line 27, leave out from beginning to end of line 39 on page 212

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1446 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that. Unless I have not done something that I ought to have done, I ask t...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1446 (Link to this contribution) I am just anxious that we should not have senior officers of the authority clambering into the bed. ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1445-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unfortunately these amendments were grouped and degrouped rather speedily overnight, so we...

Lord True | 728 c1445 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord. I have seen his Amendment 81B, and obviously that implies the direction he i...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1444-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Tope, relates to the part of the Bill which de...

Lord True | 728 c1444 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a number of amendments in this group, and I want to follow on from what the noble L...

Lord Tope | 728 c1443-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am conscious that Amendment 56 is possibly not now the most important or interesting in ...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1449-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments relates to still more regulatory powers conferred on the Secretar...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1447 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join this love fest with enthusiasm and congratulate not only the Minister on working th...

Lord Tope | 728 c1447 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name, too, is on this amendment like that of my noble friend Lady Scott of Needham Mark...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1448 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that we might be able to get back on track again without me having to swing round t...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1448 (Link to this contribution) I have already moved Amendment 57. I had originally hoped that my noble friend Lady Scott of Needham...

Lord Tope | 728 c1448 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I am not sure that I can accept her reasoning for rejecting...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1448 (Link to this contribution) 64: Schedule 2, page 216, leave out line 27

Lord True | 728 c1448 (Link to this contribution) 62A: Schedule 2, page 215, leave out lines 4 to 45 Amendment 62A agreed. Amendment 63 not moved. ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 728 c1455 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tope, made some very welcome points. Many years ago I was a councillo...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 728 c1450 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Beecham’s comments on Amendment 64. I am not a supporter of...

Lord True | 728 c1452 (Link to this contribution) 69A: Schedule 2, page 221, line 20, at end insert ““, and giving effect to, referendum on”” 69B: S...

Lord True | 728 c1452 (Link to this contribution) 66A: Schedule 2, page 218, leave out lines 3 to 20 Amendment 66A agreed. Amendments 67 to 69 not m...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1452 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 64 withdrawn. Amendments 65 and 66 not moved. Am...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1450-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for this little exchange. I will see what I can do. Amendment 64, as t...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 728 c1454-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, speaking as yet another dinosaur who remembers the old system and who was a councillor and...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1453-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have sympathy with these amendments and look forward to the Minister's reply about why ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1452 (Link to this contribution) 70: Schedule 2, page 222, line 40, leave out ““third day after the relevant elections”” and insert “...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1458-63 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is another example of possible misplacement in the groupings, for which I do not blam...

Lord True | 728 c1463 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend might be disappointed that I rise at this point, but I gave her notice tha...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1463-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have one or two questions. First, what evidence do the Government or anyone else have th...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1465-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, is one that certainly deserves some study. It ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1457 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a short debate and I can probably give a reasonably short answer. We have some sy...

Lord Tope | 728 c1457-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think I am grateful for that reply, which I think was an encouraging one. I spent 13 yea...

Lord Tope | 728 c1458 (Link to this contribution) 73: Schedule 2, page 225, line 48, leave out ““5”” and insert ““10””

Lord Tope | 728 c1458 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Shipley wished to move this amendment but, as I explained earlier, he...

Lord True | 728 c1455 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to prolong the philosophical discussion about which system is better but giv...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1455-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this sensible and well drafted amendment; my noble friend understands that joke....

Lord Tope | 728 c1471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister has warned me not to allow my noble friend Lord Greaves to let me stray off m...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness has a rather more pleasant duty to attend in a few minutes when she goe...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be very quick; we would not want the Minister to be late. She is quite right: I am ...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1470 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord certainly deserved it. The Minister talked about Amendment 81B as being out of place...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1470-1 (Link to this contribution) I will address two issues. I said that we were rejecting Amendment 74A. Of course, we are not; we ha...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1469-70 (Link to this contribution) I recall seeing it on television at the time. At all events, the noble Lord refers to a Continental ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1470 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is being more than generous. I should point out that that most demanding of bodies, t...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1469 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply, which was almost precisely in the terms that I expecte...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1469 (Link to this contribution) I assure the noble Lord that it was not me. I would also question whether or not it was my noble fri...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1467-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment has excited a deal of interest. I wish to make it absolutely clear that we a...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1471-2 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my noble friend would pay attention to the point that having an elected mayor for Liverpool ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1419-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 84DA in the same group, which stands in my name and that o...

Lord True | 728 c1420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to prolong proceedings, but I have not had an opportunity to say how much I ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are back again to the same arguments that we had on the previous amendment on area comm...

Lord Tope | 728 c1421 (Link to this contribution) That was a very happy election.

Lord True | 728 c1421 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand where the noble Lord is coming from but there are obvious difficulties with t...

Lord True | 728 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) It may have been for others. I did not know that the noble Lord, Lord Tope, was there. In those circ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1420-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for what I interpret as a very positive response. I am ...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that very helpful response. We are now into the realm of...

Lord Shipley | 728 c1421 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments relates to scrutiny. In my view, scrutiny is best achieved by a c...

Lord Shipley | 728 c1421 (Link to this contribution) 45: Schedule 2, page 198, line 6, at end insert ““and shall be chaired by a member of the largest op...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendments 49 and 49C, and I support the comments of my noble friend Lord Tope ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1425-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall start by saying that I recognise a lot of what I have heard from noble Lords regar...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1422-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by paying tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, and his colleagues for changing...

Lord Tope | 728 c1423-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that we will all forgive the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for paying tribute to my ...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1427 (Link to this contribution) I will happily do that and I will lay a copy of the answer in the Library.

Lord Greaves | 728 c1427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister said that there might need to be some modification in relation to local impro...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1427 (Link to this contribution) There is quite a lot of common sense in what the noble Lord has said. I am not going to make any com...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1426 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her response. In relation to Amendment 69, which I did not address...

Lord Tope | 728 c1427 (Link to this contribution) 45A: Schedule 2, page 199, leave out lines 1 to 7

Lord Shipley | 728 c1427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I formally withdraw my amendment, I would like to make two brief points. First, I a...

Lord Tope | 728 c1427-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 45A I will attempt to speak to the other 31 amendments in this group. ...

Lord True | 728 c1428-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support in some measure the remarks of my noble friend Lord Tope. I hear what is said ab...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1429-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their amendments, and I start by saying that I shall be helpful in...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1430-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, again I found that a very helpful answer, and I agreed with most of the comments and respo...

Lord Tope | 728 c1431 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as always I am grateful to the Minister for her reply. I rather wish now that I had gone i...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1431-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment touches on the question of transparency and the openness to the public of me...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1431 (Link to this contribution) 50: Schedule 2, page 207, leave out lines 25 and 26

Baroness Byford | 728 c1432 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my noble friend would clarify the position. I would like to see a presumption that the meeti...

Lord Shipley | 728 c1432 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 53, 54 and 55 in my name. Each is a probing amendment to get co...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1432-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the current presumption of meetings being held in public comes under the Local Authorities...

Lord True | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) 73A: Schedule 2, page 226, line 1, at end insert ““, and giving effect to, referendum on”” Amendmen...

Lord True | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) 74A: Schedule 2, page 226, line 24, at end insert ““, and giving effect to, referendum on”” Amendme...

Lord True | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) 75A: Schedule 2, page 226, line 46, at end insert ““, and giving effect to, referendum on”” Amendme...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) 76: Schedule 2, page 227, line 5, leave out ““, unless subsection (2) or (3) applies””

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I spoke at length to the earlier amendment, I can deal with this extremely briefly. Thi...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) I just want to confirm that the effect of the amendment is to remove the possibility of an authority...

Lord Tope | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will certainly pay attention, as I always do. For the past 40 years, I have paid attenti...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) I refused.

Lord Tope | 728 c1472 (Link to this contribution) He refused and it was one of his wisest decisions, because the person who requested him to do so did...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1508 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the issue of Clause 19 was the question of the way in which the regime would operate and t...

Lord Tope | 728 c1507-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister, not least for knowing where I am better than I do. I am gra...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) I have found it. Clause 18 : Disclosure and registration of members' interests Amendment 98HA Cla...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) 98HA: Clause 18, page 23, line 42, leave out ““financial and other””

Lord Greaves | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in effect this is not a substantial amendment, so I probably do not have to move it formal...

Lord Tope | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to say that I am profoundly disappointed with the position we find ourselves in. I ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I do not think the noble Lord is suggesting that to offend the code of conduct in any way should be ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 98HA is on the Supplementary Marshalled List, and therefore probably in a later grouping t...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) I am confused because my Marshalled List does not have the next amendment, Amendment 98HA, on it.

Lord Greaves | 728 c1500-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure we have had a may/must amendment yet on this Bill, but perhaps we have and I...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says but the Bill distinguishes, does it not, between matters which will ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we agree with the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, that we cannot have a free for all and that it...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1506 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that we would agree with everything that the noble Lord has said, but we would appreci...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1506-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank noble Lords. I am sort of having a second bite of the cherry within the group, because I can...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1504-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise. I should have jumped up before the Minister. I will speak to Amendments 98K a...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1504 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we do not see the case for these amendments, which would limit the registering and declari...

Lord Tope | 728 c1504 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to have to say that as a loyal member of the coalition, but it is my view. Amendment 98J...

Lord Tope | 728 c1504 (Link to this contribution) We are discussing issues that are extremely important for local government after the normal rising t...

Lord Tope | 728 c1504 (Link to this contribution) 98J: Clause 18, page 23, line 42, leave out ““and other””

Lord Greaves | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) Right. Not moved. Amendment 98HA not moved. Amendment 98J Moved by

Earl Attlee | 728 c1503 (Link to this contribution) The amendment is tabled on its own.

Lord Best | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) I send the Minister on her way with further congratulations on the changes that have withdrawn the o...

Baroness Hanham | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we had a long discussion on the previous amendment, as the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, says, ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw Amendment 76. Amendment 76 withdrawn. Amendment 77 not moved. Amendments ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1473 (Link to this contribution) 77A: Schedule 2, page 227, line 9, leave out ““implement”” and insert ““require, and give effect to,...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1474 (Link to this contribution) 79A: Schedule 2, page 227, line 27, leave out ““9NB(2)(c))”” and insert ““9N(2)(c))”” Amendment 79A...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1474 (Link to this contribution) 81A: Schedule 2, page 228, line 19, leave out from beginning to end of line 38 on page 229 and inser...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1474 (Link to this contribution) 84E: Schedule 2, page 232, leave out lines 18 and 19 Amendment 84E agreed. Amendments 85 to 87ZH n...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1474-5 (Link to this contribution) 87A: Schedule 3, page 240, leave out lines 9 to 41 87B: Schedule 3, page 248, line 20, leave out “...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1475 (Link to this contribution) 88: Clause 14, page 20, line 30, leave out ““(to any extent)””

Lord Greaves | 728 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had hoped that the Government might take a rather different view on this. Having listene...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1491 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that that is what the Bill is saying. If predetermination equals a closed mind—I was ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be brief. I am not unsympathetic to the noble Lord’s amendment but I am not sure th...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1490 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie of Luton, for temporarily forgetting that he is on t...

Lord Wills | 728 c1493-4 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my noble friend will comment on a concern brought to me by a constituent when I was the ...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1492-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is the first in a series of amendments on the position of standards committees. A sma...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1492 (Link to this contribution) 96A: Schedule 4, page 256, line 11, leave out paragraphs 11 to 14

Lord Greaves | 728 c1491-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I accept that. I accept that there is a difference. It seems to me that there is a difference b...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1494 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that it would. Standards committees were established to investigate allegati...

Lord Shipley | 728 c1494-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may comment briefly on the standards issue, not least because I tabled an amendm...

Lord Tope | 728 c1496-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene at this stage. This is almost the first time in a very long local ...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1497 (Link to this contribution) I endorse everything that the noble Lord has said. I could not have put it better myself. I beg leav...

Lord Tope | 728 c1497 (Link to this contribution) 96B: Clause 16, page 22, line 44, leave out ““London Assembly acting on behalf of the Authority”” an...

Lord Tope | 728 c1497-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 98A, 98B, 98C, 98D and 98G. All these amendments refer to...

Lord Tope | 728 c1499 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for what I hope was a favourable reply. I am certain that th...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1499 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can perhaps offer a slightly more friendly response to my noble friend Lord Tope’s more ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1499-500 (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to speak to Amendment 97 at some length, but I will allow my noble friend Lord ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1499 (Link to this contribution) 97: Clause 17, page 23, line 2, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””

Baroness Whitaker | 728 c1478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in rising to speak to this group of probing amendments, I want to ask the Minister one que...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 728 c1478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to do something which my noble friend on the Front Bench will regard as unusual, if...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1475-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have rightly just had a long debate about a major issue. In moving Amendment 88, I wish...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1484 (Link to this contribution) It is important that we get to the core of this. From what the noble Lord is saying, is it the case ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1483-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the situation, as I understand it, is that statements made prior to a decision being made ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand and take that point. But if you had someone who declared that they had a clos...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1481-3 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that we have been able to have this interesting debate. As the noble Lord, Lord McKenzi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1479-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to our amendment in this group, Amendment 96ZA, which calls for a review a...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 728 c1479 (Link to this contribution) I am made nervous by the intervention of the noble Lord because he knows much more about local gover...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1478 (Link to this contribution) Surely the noble Lord thinks that there might be a distinction between a quasi-judicial function suc...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1484 (Link to this contribution) It is fair to say that anyone who did not say that they were considering the matter with a fair cons...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1484-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister and I am sorry to have interrupted him on two or three occas...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 728 c1485 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am so encouraged and enthused by being described as helpful by my noble friend on the Fr...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 728 c1485 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the impact of this clause will make it clear that individuals can campaign as yo...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1488 (Link to this contribution) 93: Clause 14, page 20, line 41, at end insert— ““( ) This section does not apply to decisions made ...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I said at the beginning, I should make it absolutely clear that I support what the Gove...

Lord Hart of Chilton | 728 c1486 (Link to this contribution) I want to make just one contribution to this fascinating debate. The arguments alleging bias are few...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 728 c1485 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, but reference was made to Mr Justice Andrew Collins, a great and good man. Howeve...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1486-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has degrouped amendments which address that issue; perhaps we will come on to that ma...

Lord Beecham | 728 c1486 (Link to this contribution) I recall at Second Reading the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, speaking very passionately about how one n...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1502 (Link to this contribution) We are back on track on an issue which we covered in some of the previous debate. I hope that I have...

Lord Tope | 728 c1450 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendments 86 and 87 in this grouping. My noble friend Lord Shipley has unfortunate...

Lord True | 728 c1447-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may take a minute of the House’s time and speak now to the two other amendments ...

Lord Tope | 728 c1452-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move the amendment in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Palmer of Childs Hill, an...

Lord Howard of Rising | 728 c1474 (Link to this contribution) 84A: Schedule 2, page 229, line 39, leave out ““that”” and insert ““this”” 84B: Schedule 2, page 2...

Lord Greaves | 728 c1488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a substantive issue, which affects licensing. There is an important point here tha...

Lord True | 728 c1412 (Link to this contribution) 37: Schedule 2, page 190, line 10, at end insert— ““(6A) A lower tier authority may propose to the S...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 728 c1495-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the coalition has considered the whole issue of standards boards and standards committees....