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Health Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Monday, 8 June 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Andy Burnham. The answering member was Lord Lansley.
Health Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on division (292 votes to 182). Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

493 c540-622 

Session

2008-09

Department

Department of Health

Legislative stage

Second reading

Procedure

Programme motions
Money resolutions
Queen's recommendation

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Related items

Health Bill (HL). Brought from the Lords. Explanatory Notes Bill 97-EN also published.
Wednesday, 13 May 2009
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Andy Burnham | 493 c557 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the hon. Gentleman for rewinding a little, but I should like to return to targets. He...
Lord Lansley | 493 c558 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State appears not to have remembered some of our exchanges, because I have been ver...

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Lord Lansley | 493 c553 (Link to this contribution) Before the right hon. Gentleman interrupts, I should point out that he went on to differentiate oper...
Andy Burnham | 493 c553 (Link to this contribution) I found myself getting very frustrated on the many occasions when, while doing my dream job down the...
Lord Lansley | 493 c554 (Link to this contribution) Let me agree this with the new Secretary of State: we will not have a debate about who proposed a co...
John Redwood | 493 c554 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that if hon. Members read the constitution to see whether their constituen...
Lord Lansley | 493 c554-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my right hon. Friend is quite right about that. Let us take one example: where in the constitut...
John Redwood | 493 c556 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend noticed that there is now only one Labour Back Bencher in the Chamber for this im...
Lord Lansley | 493 c557 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. I think Labour Members are more concerned with the health of ...
Lord Lansley | 493 c553 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I must. The Secretary of State said that he sees the promotion of health and the prevention of ...
Lord Lansley | 493 c553 (Link to this contribution) Indeed; we can see solidarity in the approach. The Health Secretary may already have determined the...
Lord Lansley | 493 c552-3 (Link to this contribution) Once again, I welcome the Secretary of State to his new responsibilities. When he went to the Depart...
John Redwood | 493 c551 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give us his forecast of how many people might not become smokers if the ...
Andy Burnham | 493 c551-2 (Link to this contribution) The Department is considering a broader review of tobacco control policy later this year. We will be...
Lord Lansley | 493 c550 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State confirm that the reduction in the prevalence of smoking was greater in t...
Andy Burnham | 493 c550-1 (Link to this contribution) On the hon. Gentleman's first point, I do not wish to make a party political point—[Interruption.] I...
Andy Burnham | 493 c550 (Link to this contribution) I will think about it, but I would just point out that during the life of this Government we have ta...
Andy Burnham | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give the hon. Gentleman that consideration, but what I ask in return is that if we giv...
David Leslie Taylor | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his new appointment. We must recognise how powerful and influ...
Philip Davies | 493 c550 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate the Secretary of State on his promotion. Will he think again about the ban on t...
Andy Burnham | 493 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for my hon. Friend's kind words of congratulation. I stand to be corrected, but what I...
Peter Bottomley | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) In addition to that, will the Secretary of State try, whenever he can, to make the point to those wh...
Simon Hughes | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) I join others in welcoming the Secretary of State to his new job—it is a very important one. The deb...
David Clelland | 493 c548 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate my right hon. Friend on his appointment; I am sure that he will make an excelle...
Andy Burnham | 493 c546 (Link to this contribution) I thank the shadow Secretary of State for his congratulations, and look forward to crossing swords w...
Lord Lansley | 493 c545-6 (Link to this contribution) I join others in welcoming the Secretary of State to his new position. I shall say a bit more about ...
Andy Burnham | 493 c545 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the hon. Lady's congratulations. I have some aspirations to stay beyond the next g...
Jacqui Lait | 493 c545 (Link to this contribution) I add my congratulations to the right hon. Gentleman, and I hope that he enjoys his tenure until the...
Andy Burnham | 493 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that contribution. I am always on the side of the argument that says we m...
Madeleine Moon | 493 c547 (Link to this contribution) I am aware that this part of the Bill addresses tobacco control and protection for children in relat...
Andy Burnham | 493 c546-7 (Link to this contribution) That intervention illustrates why I am not going to jump in feet first and say something that I migh...
Rob Marris | 493 c546 (Link to this contribution) May I express a counter-balancing view? I am not at all sure that my right hon. Friend will be able ...
Andy Burnham | 493 c548 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman's point, and I can confirm that it would never be my intention to ma...
Mark Pritchard | 493 c548 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Secretary of State on his promotion. We all want people to live longer and to lea...
Philip Dunne | 493 c541 (Link to this contribution) May I be the first Conservative Member to congratulate the Secretary of State on his elevation? Whil...
Bob Spink | 493 c542 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Secretary of State on his new post. Help the Aged, the British Medical Associatio...
Andy Burnham | 493 c541-2 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my right hon. Friend will be grateful for the hon. Gentleman's reverence—I will be do...
Howard Stoate | 493 c543 (Link to this contribution) While my right hon. Friend is on the subject of direct payments, will he clarify what would happen i...
Andy Burnham | 493 c542-3 (Link to this contribution) I would say quite the reverse. The introduction of payments could help patients to secure their fund...
Kevin Barron | 493 c543 (Link to this contribution) I also congratulate my right hon. Friend on his appointment at the Department of Health. He talked a...
Andy Burnham | 493 c543 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises a reasonable point, but as I said a moment ago, authorisation for direct payme...
Peter Bone | 493 c544 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on becoming Secretary of State for Health. Will he explain w...
Andy Burnham | 493 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Chairman of the Select Committee for his kind congratulations. This is an issue...
Andy Burnham | 493 c544-5 (Link to this contribution) In the legal context, Monitor, as the authorising body of foundation trusts, would be responsible. T...
Andy Burnham | 493 c540-1 (Link to this contribution) I always bow to the wisdom of my hon. Friend. When I occupied the Minister of State position in the ...
Howard Stoate | 493 c540 (Link to this contribution) May I be the first to congratulate my right hon. Friend on his new post? I am sure that he will do a...
Andy Burnham | 493 c540 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. As first days in a new job go, there must h...
David Leslie Taylor | 493 c584-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right to suggest that many factors influence smoking prevalence. Trying to control ...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c583 (Link to this contribution) That figure is correct, but it is slightly complicated by the changes in taxation of tobacco product...
Lord Young of Cookham | 493 c587-90 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for North-West Leicestershire (David Taylor), who is chai...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c578 (Link to this contribution) I think I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his comments, although they seem to be slightly at o...
Speaker | 493 c579 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think that we are going to have to pick up the pace a little if all seven Members still wis...
Maria Miller | 493 c579-82 (Link to this contribution) Before moving on to the main points I wish to make, I would like to talk about two issues that have ...
David Leslie Taylor | 493 c582-3 (Link to this contribution) Underpinning this debate is the principle that smoking is an addiction of childhood; it is not an ad...
Greg Mulholland | 493 c575 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, as we are all committed to narrowing the artificial gap between soci...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c575-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point. In many cases, the dividing line between health and social c...
Lord Lansley | 493 c578 (Link to this contribution) My memory does not serve me well enough to recall how I was involved, but I think that the discussio...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c574-5 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman listens to the rest of my speech, perhaps he will rethink his argument. I do n...
David Leslie Taylor | 493 c573-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way, particularly as I have only just returned to the Cham...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c572-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a shame that the Secretary of State has had to leave the debate, although he apologised for do...
Kevin Barron | 493 c571-2 (Link to this contribution) Well, let me just say this. Hon. Members who are concerned about the future of local tobacco retaile...
Greg Mulholland | 493 c572 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman include in his comments nightclubs where there is a strict over-18s po...
Kevin Barron | 493 c569-71 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to listen to the case for any amendments to improve people's health and stop the selling ...
Kevin Barron | 493 c567-9 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman's first point. The first option—allowing smoking in public houses th...
Sandra Gidley | 493 c569 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is clearly passionate about the subject. I may disagree with his line of th...
Ian McCartney | 493 c602-4 (Link to this contribution) It just shows how much I notice on those journeys, but I welcome the fact. The survey was interesti...
Lee Scott | 493 c604-7 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Secretary of State on his promotion and wish him well. I start by praising NHS s...
Philip Dunne | 493 c607-9 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford, North (Mr. Scott) on his impassioned speech. I ...
Philip Dunne | 493 c609 (Link to this contribution) I am about to finish, so I am not going to give way. In particular, we should see the impact of mea...
Stephen O'Brien | 493 c609-14 (Link to this contribution) If we needed any more evidence that this Government are a tad short of support, we only have to reca...
Phil Hope | 493 c614-7 (Link to this contribution) We have had a wide-ranging debate, with contributions from all parts of the House that touched on al...
Speaker | 493 c617 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sorry to interrupt the Minister, but there are far too many conversations going on all a...
Phil Hope | 493 c617-8 (Link to this contribution) I guess that that tells us a little about the Opposition's interest in these issues, as compared wit...
Ian McCartney | 493 c602 (Link to this contribution) It was addicted to that, to the drinks industry and to anything that required defending the indefens...
Howard Stoate | 493 c592-5 (Link to this contribution) I bow to my hon. Friend's great judgment on the issue. He is a real expert on IT, particularly in th...
Richard Taylor | 493 c595-9 (Link to this contribution) It gives me great pleasure to follow the only practising doctor in the House of Commons, the hon. Me...
Howard Stoate | 493 c591-2;493 c590-2 (Link to this contribution) It gives me great pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for North-West Hampshire (Sir George Youn...
David Leslie Taylor | 493 c592 (Link to this contribution) I spent 30-odd years, from the age of 19, working in the IT industry in the public sector before com...
Ian McCartney | 493 c601 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman needs to hear the rest of my speech. I will comment on that particular approach—I...
Ian McCartney | 493 c599-601 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and to Opposition Front Benchers for not ...
Stephen O'Brien | 493 c601 (Link to this contribution) As a fellow north-west Member of Parliament, I know that some of the evidence that covers our region...
Andy Burnham | 493 c559 (Link to this contribution) I do respect the hon. Gentleman's experience in the job, but he did not explain his policy when I wa...
Lord Lansley | 493 c559-63 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I must confess that I prefer dialogue to monologue, but we are under ...
Kevin Barron | 493 c563-7 (Link to this contribution) Could I first say—[Interruption.] I have to tell hon. Members on the Opposition Front Bench that I h...
Mike Penning | 493 c567 (Link to this contribution) I was a proud member of the Health Committee, but when we examined the evidence for the Government's...
Lord Lansley | 493 c558 (Link to this contribution) No, they are not targets; they are normal things that happen in normal life. Those who are responsib...
Lord Lansley | 493 c558 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. I am just explaining the issue to the Secretary of State—in response to his previous in...
Andy Burnham | 493 c558 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Lansley | 493 c558-9 (Link to this contribution) There is a small benefit in having been in the job for almost six years. Although the Minister has ...
Andy Burnham | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point.
Kevin Barron | 493 c572 (Link to this contribution) That is a very good point. If there were a minimum age for admission to an establishment, that could...
Speaker | 493 c559 (Link to this contribution) Order. This cannot be a duologue. We want to open the debate up at some stage, and that was rather a...
Andy Burnham | 493 c549 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point, which stresses the need—perhaps this goes back to what the ...
Kevin Barron | 493 c601 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will recall that Labour Members often said that the Conservative party was addi...

Subjects

Complaints
Children
Disclosure of information
Advertising
Constitutions
Dentistry
Direct payments
Doctors
Health services
Innovation
NHS
Medical treatments
Pay
Pharmacy
Patients' rights
Marketing
Mental health services
NHS foundation trusts
Private patients
Waiting lists
Standards
Retail trade
Tobacco
Social services
Smoking
Patient choice schemes
Personal budgets
Personal health budgets

Legislation

Health Bill (HL) 2008-09

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