House of Lords Bill (HL). Queen's consent signified. Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
House of Lords Bill [HL]
Debate on bills on Friday, 27 February 2009,
in the House of Lords,
led by Lord Steel of Aikwood.
The answering
member was Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
708 c431-96Session
2008-09Legislative stage
Second readingChamber / Committee
House of Lords chamberRelated items
Proceeding contributions
Lord Grocott | 708 c439-41 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I strongly support this Bill and I thought that the noble Lord, Lord Steel, characteristic...
Lord Low of Dalston | 708 c452-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble lord, Lord Steel, on his stamina in bringing the Bill forward in ...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c454-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I begin by congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on his expertise and diplomacy, one ...
Lord Norton of Louth | 708 c449-50 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have heard some excellent speeches in support of this measure. There is clearly support...
Lord Goodhart | 708 c451-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am one of those who previously opposed the Bill on the grounds that removing some flaws ...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 708 c446-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on his tenacity in bringing the Bill before us ...
Lord Warner | 708 c447-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is 10 years since I spoke here on House of Lords reform. I did so shortly after finishi...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 708 c443-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it has been observed that there is nothing new to be said about the subject of House of Lo...
Bishop of Chelmsford | 708 c444-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am a member in this House of a very small, distinguished and select band of people. That...
Lord Lipsey | 708 c469-71 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has just demonstrated sharply how wise the Appointments C...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 708 c468-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when the noble Lord, Lord Steel, introduced his Bill, he pointed out that this was a Secon...
Lord Selsdon | 708 c471-2 (Link to this contribution)
It probably would be, my Lords. So it is not the money. Actually, a high proportion of the cost of y...
Lord Selsdon | 708 c472 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is much better than having a general purpose debate.
I get terribly hurt by being call...
Viscount Astor | 708 c455-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, both main parties have now signed up to the reform of this House following the next genera...
Viscount Astor | 708 c457 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is true that there is a majority in another place for an elected second Chamber. That i...
Lord Cobbold | 708 c457 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to speak once again in support of this Bill and I hope that this...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 708 c457-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the circumstances in which we debate the Bill today are quite different from those in whic...
Lord Higgins | 708 c459-61 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the Bill. Since we debated the original Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on 3...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 708 c461-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have to declare an interest: I like Mr Straw. I worked for him when he was Foreign Secre...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 708 c462-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this match has now entered its second half and the current score is 18-2 to the noble Lord...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 708 c464-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I attended this debate not to speak but to listen. I was greatly impressed by the speech o...
Lord Tyler | 708 c465-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome the opportunity that my noble friend’s Bill gives us all to keep up the pressure...
Lord McNally | 708 c490-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may give a Gypsy’s warning. It would be unacceptable if those paragons of virtue...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c491 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sure that the Government would wish to discuss with noble Lords any matters to do wit...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 708 c490 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise for intervening at this stage of the Minister’s speech. Nobody questions the v...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c490 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, surely that is what the proposals in the White Paper are about. They are about building on...
Lord Strathclyde | 708 c482-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is fast becoming an annual occasion. It is not quite so grand as the state opening an...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c486-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on his patience and determination, which ...
Baroness Jay of Paddington | 708 c491 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise to my noble friend, but I wonder whether he can help me on this. He was encour...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 708 c491 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise for intervening. The noble Lord talks about a strong case. Is there not a stro...
Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 708 c474-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I echo the noble Baroness and I hope that the Minister, if his brief currently states the ...
Lord Northbrook | 708 c475-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support in principle those parts of the Bill that would establish a statutory Appointmen...
Lord Gilbert | 708 c477 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one of the things that one notices about debates in your Lordships’ House is that words th...
Baroness Miller of Hendon | 708 c474 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Faulkner of Worcester, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel...
Lord McNally | 708 c480-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I know how to win over an audience, do not worry.
The noble Baroness, Lady D’Souza, often...
Lord Lucas | 708 c478-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, has not the climate changed? Last time we debated the Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Steel, ...
Lord Gilbert | 708 c477 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, indeed, my Lords. That is all that I wish to say.
Lord McNally | 708 c479-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my first duty is to compliment noble Lords on keeping to the stricture of the noble Lord, ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend, but he repeats as a sort of dogma that the two major pla...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not sure that I accept my noble friend’s proposition. I have said that the Government...
Lord Higgins | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord cannot have been listening to today’s debate, the whole emphasis of which w...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
Which matters are urgent, my Lords? I believe that the disciplinary measures are urgent, and my nobl...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the answer is that this was in the previous manifesto.
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 708 c492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we should allow the Minister to finish.
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c493 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was rather enjoying this. Noble Lords have ignored the fact that obtaining universal agr...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 708 c493-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think we all agree that we have had a remarkably good and, indeed, enjoyable debate. I t...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 708 c431 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there are 34 speakers signed up for today’s Second Reading debate. I should advise the Hou...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 708 c431 (Link to this contribution)
That this Bill be read a second time.
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 708 c437-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, for many reasons it is a pleasure to follow the brief but important speech by the noble Ba...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 708 c434 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in all seriousness, if we are looking forward to an elected House at some point in the fut...
Baroness Jay of Paddington | 708 c434-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have not spoken on House of Lords reform in your Lordships’ House for several years but ...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 708 c431-4 (Link to this contribution)
"I beg to move that this Bill be read a second time"; that ritual phrase has rather more meaning on ...
Lord Higgins | 708 c471 (Link to this contribution)
That’s one pension.
Baroness D'Souza | 708 c438-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is thought by some that there are just too many Cross-Benchers. That may be the case bu...
Earl of Caithness | 708 c441-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I had some sympathy with the noble Lord, Lord Steel, when he told us last year that he was...
Lord Selsdon | 708 c471 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am rather enjoying myself. This is exactly the sort of debate that I would expect to get...
Lord Selsdon | 708 c472 (Link to this contribution)
It is a fantastic document, my Lords, and says everything that you could wish to have in it, except ...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 708 c473-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is almost 20 years since I was privileged to become a Member of your Lordships’ House, ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c491-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I certainly confirm the first part of the question, on the Government looking at the matte...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c491 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Campbell of Alloway, are always considered very caref...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 708 c431 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have it in command from Her Majesty the Queen to acquaint the House that Her Majesty, ha...
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