Saving Gateway Accounts Bill. Report stage. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Saving Gateway Accounts Bill
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Saving Gateway Accounts Bill. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Thursday, 5 February 2009
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Thursday, 5 February 2009
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Mark Hoban | 488 c315 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 1, in page 7, line 9 , at end insert—
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c316 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban) to this extent: all the accounts must have a de...
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Jeremy Browne | 488 c317 (Link to this contribution)
There are three broad areas of consideration in respect of this issue, and we touched on them during...
John Howell | 488 c317-8 (Link to this contribution)
The debate about amendment 1 has been helpful because it gets to the heart of what the Bill is about...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c314 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Member for South Thanet (Dr. Ladyman) should have asked the Minister why the Govern...
Mark Hoban | 488 c314 (Link to this contribution)
Given the ministerial experience of the hon. Member for South Thanet, I suspect that he knows exactl...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c314 (Link to this contribution)
I have noticed that the frequency with which the Opposition ask for the positive procedure to be use...
Mark Hoban | 488 c314 (Link to this contribution)
Well, I do not think that the two are in any way correlated. There is a debate to be had about what ...
Mark Hoban | 488 c314 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for South Thanet (Dr. Ladyman) asked why Opposition Members argue for the affirmativ...
Ian Pearson | 488 c312-3 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. It is perfectly possible for people to pray against regulati...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c312 (Link to this contribution)
For the life of me, I have never understood why the Opposition always make that point. If the Govern...
Mark Hoban | 488 c312 (Link to this contribution)
But the Bill gives the Minister the power to double the monthly contribution by means of the negativ...
Ian Pearson | 488 c312 (Link to this contribution)
That is true; that is how the legislation is worded. If a future Government decided to double the ma...
Mark Hoban | 488 c311 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister explain why he has decided that variations to the match rate should be subject to t...
Ian Pearson | 488 c311 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, indeed I can. Moving from a match rate of, say, 50 per cent. to 100 per cent. would be a major ...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c310 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban) rightly said, on Second Reading I spoke about what I cons...
Ian Pearson | 488 c310-1 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I can convince the House that the Government’s approach to what is put on the face of th...
Speaker | 488 c308 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment 9, in clause 27, page 13, line 4...
Mark Hoban | 488 c308-10 (Link to this contribution)
This group of amendments tries to address one of the issues that the hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. Br...
Mark Hoban | 488 c308 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 2, in page 4, line 19, at end insert—
Ian Pearson | 488 c318-20 (Link to this contribution)
I sympathise with the sentiment behind the amendment. We all want to ensure that savers benefit from...
Mark Hoban | 488 c320-1 (Link to this contribution)
We have chewed this over in Committee and again today. My concern is to ensure that the default opti...
Ian Pearson | 488 c321-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
We had an interesting debate on Report, an...
Charles Walker | 488 c325-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill is a small step towards ensuring that this country rediscovers the savings culture. Our lon...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c324-5 (Link to this contribution)
This stage of the legislative process is a little bit like an Oscars ceremony, as we run through all...
John Redwood | 488 c326-7 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill is a mouse of a measure to handle an elephant of a problem. The Liberal Democrats say that ...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I have one example of something that has taken longer: the forthcoming referendum on introducing pro...
Mark Hoban | 488 c322 (Link to this contribution)
As the Economic Secretary said, there is broad support for the Bill. He also mentioned on Report how...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c323-4 (Link to this contribution)
This has been an enjoyable Bill to be involved with, and I am grateful to Members of all parties for...
Mark Hoban | 488 c322-3 (Link to this contribution)
I should always expect a Liberal Democrat MP to make a reference, wherever possible, in any debate, ...
Mark Hoban | 488 c301-2 (Link to this contribution)
In the course of discussion about financial inclusion, it has frequently been observed that some ins...
James Duddridge | 488 c302 (Link to this contribution)
The amendment refers to"““location of the provider’s premises””."
Given that more providers are usi...
Mark Hoban | 488 c301 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure I agree. The amendment refers to conditions, and to the need to have regard to the loc...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c301 (Link to this contribution)
But the wording of paragraph (c) would empower the Government to limit provision to organisations th...
Mark Hoban | 488 c300 (Link to this contribution)
We want there to be as many providers as possible. We want the widest possible geographical network....
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c301 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman’s intention is to widen the potential provision of the accounts, that would se...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c300 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. His answer to my question might mean that I will not need to ma...
Mark Hoban | 488 c299-300 (Link to this contribution)
This second group of amendments deals with two particular points. Let me deal with amendment 5 first...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c308 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman might like to know that Wantsum Savers offered a counter service using my office ...
Mark Hoban | 488 c308 (Link to this contribution)
That is an interesting suggestion. One issue that credit unions face is the availability of access p...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c303-4 (Link to this contribution)
I would not, perhaps, put it that strongly, but, absolutely, that is broadly what I am saying. One o...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c304-5 (Link to this contribution)
I must say that I do not see the point of amendment 5, unless its purpose is to make it clear that w...
Charles Walker | 488 c305-6 (Link to this contribution)
We are approaching a new age of financial responsibility as a result of the current downturn in the ...
Ian Pearson | 488 c306-7 (Link to this contribution)
These amendments cover two distinct areas, but they have in common that they both relate to the requ...
Mark Hoban | 488 c302-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is an interesting question, and not one that we explored in Committee. Perhaps if my hon. Frien...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c303 (Link to this contribution)
Let me begin by saying that, despite the discussions we have had in Committee and today, I agree wit...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c303 (Link to this contribution)
Is the hon. Gentleman saying that banks that judge it not to be commercially in their interests to g...
Jeremy Browne | 488 c292-3 (Link to this contribution)
Without the distraction of girl guides, I can give my full attention to the important considerations...
John Howell | 488 c293-4 (Link to this contribution)
A number of hon. Members have pointed out that there was a high degree of consensus on the Bill in C...
Mark Hoban | 488 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I join other right hon. and hon. Members in sending my condolences to David and Samantha Cameron on ...
James Duddridge | 488 c291 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 13 is insightful, but proposed new subsection (8)(b) refers to those aged between 18 and 6...
Mark Hoban | 488 c289-91 (Link to this contribution)
This group of amendments focuses on eligibility, a topic that we discussed at some length during wha...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c292 (Link to this contribution)
The Committee stage was consensual, but that does not mean that the Bill could not be improved a lit...
Mark Hoban | 488 c291-2 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point, and I wish I had consulted him before tabling the amendment...
Speaker | 488 c299 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment 6, in page 5, line 25 [Clause 11], leave out pa...
Ian Pearson | 488 c294-6 (Link to this contribution)
Let me begin by adding my condolences to those expressed by other right hon. and hon. Members to Dav...
Mark Hoban | 488 c297 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for the way in which he responded to the amendments, and for his suggestion tha...
Ian Pearson | 488 c297 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome my hon. Friend’s comments. It is right that the Government should always be open to listen...
Mark Hoban | 488 c299 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 5, in page 3, line 33, at end insert—
Mark Hoban | 488 c298-9 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, I was coming on to the issue of the 2.7 million people who are eligible to claim those benef...
Ian Pearson | 488 c298 (Link to this contribution)
I just want to be clear about the numbers of people involved. Our estimate is that 8 million people ...
Mark Hoban | 488 c298 (Link to this contribution)
I will come back to the Minister’s 4.5 million, because his maths did not quite add up. I had a figu...
Mark Hoban | 488 c300 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an interesting point. Apparently, these banks are managed on an arm’s length ba...
Mark Hoban | 488 c307-8 (Link to this contribution)
It has been useful to debate the nature of the providers and the terms and conditions that we would ...
Speaker | 488 c289 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment 12, page 1, line 19, at end ins...
Charles Walker | 488 c300 (Link to this contribution)
As most banks are now in receipt of public money, it would not be impossible for the Government to a...
Ian Pearson | 488 c298 (Link to this contribution)
It was 4.5 million.
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c296-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for those comments, and I am glad that I was able to get back into t...
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