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Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 3 February 2009, in the House of Lords.
Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 17 to 49, clauses 51 to 62 agreed to. Schedules 1 to 4 agreed to, with schedules 1 and 3 agreed to as amended. New clause (Lords amendment 143A) debated and withdrawn. New clauses (Lords amendments 152A and 152B) debated and agreed to. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

707 c133-98GC 

Session

2008-09

Department

Department for Communities and Local Government

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Related items

Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 2-EN also published.
Thursday, 4 December 2008
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c189GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 49: Boundary Committee for England Amendment 159ZEF 159ZEF: Clause 49, page 33, line 7, lea...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c190-3GC (Link to this contribution) Before turning to the amendments, I hope that the Committee will find it useful if I provide a brief...

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Baroness Andrews | 707 c183-4GC (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments is significant and I was interested to hear what both noble Lords said. The...
Baroness Maddock | 707 c171-2GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. I know from my own experience that it is important that you have officer ...
Lord Tope | 707 c174GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 28: Functions of joint overview and scrutiny committees Amendment 154A 154A: Clause 28, pag...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c133GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 131 131: Clause 19, page 13, line 10, after ““may”” insert ““or may not””
Baroness Warsi | 707 c150-1GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 145 to 150 inclusive. They are probing amendments and provide us wi...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c198GC (Link to this contribution) In view of the time, the most popular thing that I could do—although perhaps not popular with the El...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c195GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 159X to 159Z 159X: Schedule 1, page 85, line 25, after second ““the”” insert ““ordinary”...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c196GC (Link to this contribution) I have given notice of my intention to oppose Clause 51. I support the point made by the noble Baron...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c198GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 160C 160C: Schedule 3, page 97, line 26, at end insert— ““(10) The power of the Boundary ...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c186-8GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, rightly said, this chapter of the Bill enables the recommendatio...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c188-9GC (Link to this contribution) That was a spirited defence. I am not sure that it will take us a great deal further if I try to ans...
Lord Tope | 707 c179-80GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister very much for the careful and considered response that she has given us. Amendm...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c182GC (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with what the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has proposed. Certainly, the whole t...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c180GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 156 156: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause— ““Eligibility for membership: ...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c184-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield. I should have thought about consultancies—a fair...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c185GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 32: Power to appoint auditor Amendment 158A 158A: Clause 32, page 22, line 18, after ““sect...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c174GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her answer. I agree with a point made earlier by the noble Baroness, Lady H...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c173-4GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord responds, does the Minister appreciate the irony of wishing to increase the st...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c170GC (Link to this contribution) This is a probing amendment in regard to scrutiny. It is the first of a series of amendments on the ...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c170-1GC (Link to this contribution) My opposition to the clause in its entirety is grouped with these two amendments. I am something of ...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c177-8GC (Link to this contribution) This has been a very interesting debate. I am always grateful for the interventions of my noble frie...
Lord Smith of Leigh | 707 c176-7GC (Link to this contribution) Noble Lords opposite have consistently argued that the Bill should not cover unnecessary things. Thi...
Lord Smith of Leigh | 707 c177GC (Link to this contribution) Scrutiny inevitably depends on how well those being scrutinised accept and respond to it. In Greater...
Lord Colwyn | 707 c133GC (Link to this contribution) Good afternoon. I start with the usual reminder that, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c136-7GC (Link to this contribution) The amendment raises an important issue and, again, I want to be as reassuring as possible. Clause 2...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c137GC (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to commit my noble friend but I am sure that he would stress not just the difference betw...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c140GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for her kind comments about Friday. I did indeed have fun, ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 707 c147-8GC (Link to this contribution) Since I entered the House, we have passed a number of Bills that require decisions to be notified to...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c154GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. I am going to have a detailed look at Hansard because I am st...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c157GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Best, supported by the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, have raised a very importan...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c158GC (Link to this contribution) Ideally, as soon as possible. We are hoping that it will be at some time in the spring, on a realist...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c166GC (Link to this contribution) I can honestly say that I have been looking forward to this amendment more than most. I am particula...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c196-8GC (Link to this contribution) I shall try to be brief. I shall first address the comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, in r...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c195GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 160A and 160B 160A: Schedule 1, page 92, line 13, leave out ““a member”” and insert ““an...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c196GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 160BB, 160BC and 160BD and to the Questions whether Clause 58 and S...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c198GC (Link to this contribution) I think that this is a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.
Baroness Warsi | 707 c190GC (Link to this contribution) I have one amendment in this group which I think is now redundant. I tabled Amendment 160 as a respo...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c189-90GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment is part of an extremely long group of mostly government amendments. I have tabled als...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c180-2GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 157 and 158. At Second Reading I mentioned that repealing what have...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c186GC (Link to this contribution) I have one amendment in this group on a small but none the less important point. The amendment would...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c172-3GC (Link to this contribution) It is evident that noble Lords understand what we are trying to do, although there is clearly concer...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 707 c169GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 152B 152B: After Clause 26, insert the following new Clause— ““Honorary titles (1) Sectio...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c176GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may correct that. I think that it was a mishearing. I am afraid that it is not ring-fenced...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c176GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly to Amendment 155. As the noble Lord, Lord Tope, said, it is in our name also. ...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c177GC (Link to this contribution) We have scrutiny, and we invite other members of local authorities to join us. We are talking about ...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c133-4GC (Link to this contribution) I move this amendment on behalf of my noble friend Lord Greaves, who, due to unforeseen circumstance...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c134GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. A theme running throughout this part of the legislation i...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c134-5GC (Link to this contribution) I send my good wishes to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. I hope that he will dig himself out. I notice...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c138GC (Link to this contribution) I tabled Amendment 134 as a response to recommendations in the report produced on the Bill by the De...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c136GC (Link to this contribution) Again, I move this amendment on behalf of my noble friend Lord Greaves. It seeks to remove the appli...
Lord Tope | 707 c140GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 23: Duty of public authorities to secure involvement Amendment 138 138: Clause 23, page 14,...
Lord Tope | 707 c140-1GC (Link to this contribution) I must confess to be musing still about the exchange just now between my noble friend Lady Hamwee an...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c142-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for enabling me to speak to Amendment 138ZA, ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 707 c150GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that he hopes that his response has gone some way to giving me the reassurance for...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c148-50GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, for raising as powerfully as ever this very important i...
Lord Low of Dalston | 707 c147GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 143A 143A: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause— ““Statutory notices framewor...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c152-4GC (Link to this contribution) I turn first to the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Warsi. She raises some very pertinent que...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c151GC (Link to this contribution) My Amendment 150A is in this group. It probes some of the points that the noble Baroness has just me...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c150GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 25: Establishment and assistance of bodies representing tenants etc Amendment 144 144: Clau...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c154GC (Link to this contribution) I imagine that most tenants in the first instance would probably go to TAROE to resolve an individua...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c154GC (Link to this contribution) On that last point, will individuals be able to raise tenancy matters, which is part of their person...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c156-7GC (Link to this contribution) I added my name and that of my noble friend Lord Tope to almost all the amendments. I am prompted to...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 707 c158-61GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 152A 152A: After Clause 26, insert the following new Clause— ““Local freedoms (1) The Loc...
Lord Best | 707 c158GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that. I look forward to that in the spring. Amendment 144A withdrawn. Ame...
Lord Boston of Faversham | 707 c165GC (Link to this contribution) It is with great pleasure that I rise to support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Graham of Edm...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c164GC (Link to this contribution) I was pleased to hear the noble Lord refer to county councils, because they very rarely or never app...
Lord Boston of Faversham | 707 c165-6GC (Link to this contribution) I have no doubt whatever that the noble Lord, Lord Graham, was there. The right to create honorary ...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c194-5GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 159Q to 159W 159Q: Schedule 1, page 84, line 22, after ““as”” insert ““an ordinary”” 1...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c195GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 159AA 159AA: Schedule 1, page 87, line 34, at end insert— ““( ) Sub-paragraph (1) does no...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c195GC (Link to this contribution) Schedule 2: Electoral change in England: considerations on review Amendment 160BA 160BA: Schedule ...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c193-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that detailed response. On appointments, a Speaker’s Committee has a status which ...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c194GC (Link to this contribution) Schedule 1: Boundary Committee for England Amendments 159A and 159B 159A: Schedule 1, page 83, lin...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c194GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 159C toi 159P 159C: Schedule 1, page 83, line 9, leave out ““a member”” and insert ““an ...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c178-9GC (Link to this contribution) I can see from Amendments 154A and 154B that we share the same underlying aim to see more co-operati...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c185-6GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment is grouped with Amendments 158B, 159ZA, 159ZB, 159ZC, 159ZD and 159ZE, which are all ...
Lord Hanningfield | 707 c169GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 27: Scrutiny officers Amendment 153 153: Clause 27, page 18, line 29, leave out ““must”” an...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 707 c168GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for the reception that my amendments have received. I am grateful to the noble Ba...
Lord Tope | 707 c174-5GC (Link to this contribution) I shall also speak to Amendments 154B, 155 and 155A. Amendment 154A speaks for itself. Such is my aw...
Lord Tope | 707 c176GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I misheard. It is perhaps better to mishear than to misspeak. Whether it is ring-fence...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c136GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 20: Handling of petitions by other bodies Amendment 133 133: Clause 20, page 13, line 23, l...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c135-6GC (Link to this contribution) I cannot resist commenting that if there were less detail in the Bill it would not be necessary to s...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c138-9GC (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the way the noble Baroness has addressed this issue. She is right to raise the recommen...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c138GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 134 134: Clause 20, page 13, line 36, at end insert— ““( ) Any order made under subsectio...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c137GC (Link to this contribution) It is not a disgrace that I live in London; it is a great place. However, one has to remember that t...
Lord Colwyn | 707 c136GC (Link to this contribution) If this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 133A, which has already been debated.
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c139GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness replies, I would like to comment on one aspect of this. I would also like ...
Baroness Warsi | 707 c142GC (Link to this contribution) My name is added to that of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, in opposing the Question that Clauses 23 a...
Baroness Hamwee | 707 c142GC (Link to this contribution) I see that Amendment 138ZA, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Best, is included in the group. I im...
Lord Colwyn | 707 c142GC (Link to this contribution) I should have said that if this amendment is agreed to I will not be able to call Amendment 138ZA.
Lord Tope | 707 c146GC (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister for what she herself said was a very full reply to this set ...
Lord Best | 707 c154-6GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being present when the earlier amendment in my name was called. The Committee we...
Lord Best | 707 c154GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 144A 144A: Clause 25, page 16, line 31, after ““body”” insert ““or bodies””
Lord Best | 707 c157-8GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for the support from the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, on this and my earlier amen...
Baroness Maddock | 707 c163-4GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the Committee; I have been in another committee and have only just arrived, but am ve...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 707 c161-3GC (Link to this contribution) I shall also speak to other amendments related to this one. For the benefit of the Committee, and to...
Baroness Andrews | 707 c166-8GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee should not look so surprised; these amendments are worth accepting. Before I confirm t...

Subjects

Disclosure of information
Accountability
Audit
Councillors
Civic dignitaries
Borrowing
Finance
Electoral Commission
Local government
Pay
Public consultation
Public participation
Parish and town councils
Political impartiality
Private rented housing
Voluntary organisations
Social rented housing
Tenants' rights
Overview and scrutiny committees
Local Government Boundary Commission for England
Petitions
Freedom of the city

Legislation

Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill (HL) 2008-09

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