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House of Lords Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Friday, 20 July 2007, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Steel of Aikwood. The answering member was Lord Hunt of Kings Heath.
House of Lords Bill (HL). Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

694 c483-542 

Session

2006-07

Department

Ministry of Justice

Legislative stage

Second reading

Procedure

Private members' bills proceedings

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

House of Lords Bill (HL) 2006-07
Wednesday, 14 March 2007
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Northbrook | 694 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill is highly preferable to the proposals in the Statement yesterday and the forthco...
Earl of Onslow | 694 c517-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by reminding your Lordships of Macaulay’s comment on the Plantagenets. He said tha...

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Lord Anderson of Swansea | 694 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is good to follow a self-confessed ridiculous character in the modern world but one who...
Baroness Miller of Hendon | 694 c513 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords may remember that at the Third Reading of the House of Lords Bill in 1999, I s...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 694 c511-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on introducing the Bill, which is the produ...
Baroness D'Souza | 694 c511 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like others in your Lordships’ House, I welcome the Bill and the opportunity that it gives...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 694 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as one of the very first batch of the new breed nominated by the Stevenson Commission for ...
Baroness O'Cathain | 694 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wholly endorse the Bill. It represents an excellent opportunity to make progress and I w...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 694 c514-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the spotlight is on this House in two very different ways today because of the Bill of my ...
Lord Grenfell | 694 c513-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a very enthusiastic supporter of the Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Steel of Aikwood, b...
Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 694 c521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted to speak in support of the Second Reading of this Bill. I pay tribute to th...
Lord Clyde | 694 c520-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the Bill as a positive, timely and useful initiative towards making progress on ...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 694 c522-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I say at the outset that my attitude towards the Bill is broadly positive and supportive. ...
Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 694 c521-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Steel, for introducing the Bill. I offer my support to it. An...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 694 c483-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill be now read a second time. I am cheered to see so many Member...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 694 c483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have it in command from Her Majesty the Queen to acquaint the House that Her Majesty, ha...
Lord Norton of Louth | 694 c488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my mother used to tell me that I spoke too quickly and I may now be about to prove it. I ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 694 c488 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it was made absolutely clear at the beginning of the debate that it was the will of the Ho...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 694 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Steel, has presented an impeccable case for the Bill. I associate mys...
Lord Tomlinson | 694 c492 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Lea provided for me what I thought was the nightmare scenario; that i...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 694 c493-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take pleasure in echoing precisely the case just made by the noble Lord, Lord Tomlinson....
Lord Tomlinson | 694 c493 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, therefore, whatever it concludes will be subject to the same level of criticism as anythin...
Baroness Greengross | 694 c495-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am in favour of this Bill, so admirably introduced by the noble Lord, Lord Steel. It wou...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 694 c489-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak very briefly. Do not blink, or you may miss it. After all, there are 12 Cros...
Baroness Shephard of Northwold | 694 c490 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will also be very brief. The aims of the Bill have already been admirably set out. Yeste...
Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank | 694 c490-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, until the appearance of this admirable Bill, I had reached the reluctant conclusion that m...
Viscount Bledisloe | 694 c491-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill is very welcome in principle, with its provisions for an all-appointed House at l...
Lord Elton | 694 c504 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a hereditary Peer, although it is a diminished interest since my ...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 694 c503-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill proposes two of the principal reforms needed to re-establish the second Chamber ...
Earl of Listowel | 694 c501-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall say a few words of welcome for the Bill, concentrating on specialism. The appointm...
Lord Bradshaw | 694 c501 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one thing unites many of the radical Members to whom reference has been made: their ignora...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 694 c499 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill provides the reform needed at one fell swoop by building on the consensus of view...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 694 c499-500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Statement yesterday rejected the Bill because it did not offer comprehensive reform. O...
Lord Higgins | 694 c497-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on introducing the Bill, which must clearly be ...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 694 c498-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome my noble friend’s Bill as an important step which leaves us in a better place fr...
Lord Morris of Aberavon | 694 c496-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Steel, for introducing this Bill and thus giving me the oppor...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 694 c510 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have the advantage of having heard many speeches with which I have agreed and quite a fe...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 694 c510-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, so far as I am concerned, the hereditaries may well remain by different arrangements when ...
Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 694 c506-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, warmly support the Bill. In view of the shortness of time, I will not elaborate an...
Baroness Deech | 694 c507-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest in that my own appointment to this House was instigated by the curre...
Lord Bilston | 694 c508-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I share with my noble friends the aspiration felt on all sides of the Chamber to campaign ...
Lord Goodlad | 694 c509-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join in congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on so ably moving the Second Reading ...
Lord Cobbold | 694 c505 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking and congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Steel, on pro...
Lord Lipsey | 694 c505-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like every other speaker in the debate so far, I hugely welcome the Bill but am rather puz...
Lord Howard of Rising | 694 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the wish to open the Pandora’s box of Lords reform is a mystery to me. There is no public ...
Lord Lucas | 694 c528-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a fair variety of opinion on this side of the House. I am totally in favour of an...
Viscount Eccles | 694 c525 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the question put by the noble Lords, Lord Tomlinson and Lord Lipsey. Why are the...
Lord Sheikh | 694 c525-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I was nominated for a peerage in September 2005, the leader of the Conservative Party...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, cannot the Minister see that that is the trouble for the Back-Benchers? The appointment is...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c538-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that we will get any further on this matter. We should move on. I want to ...
Lord Grenfell | 694 c539 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, perhaps he would care to recall Winston Churchill’s words...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, do my noble friend and other members of the cross-party group appreciate that, if this Hou...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords, I do not accept that at all. Our intention is that the reform of the House’s compositi...
Lord Blaker | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord continues to say that the all-party committee has been meeting for a consid...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the cross-party group brings together people appointed by the leadership of those parties ...
Lord McNally | 694 c529-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I pay tribute to the skill and tact with which the noble Lord, Lord Steel, introduc...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 694 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is that feeling, and there has been for some time.
Lord Strathclyde | 694 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that pre-empts the debate that the noble Baroness has put into train. It is only one solut...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 694 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for interrupting my noble friend. On the subject of the composition of those g...
Lord Strathclyde | 694 c531-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Steel of Aikwood, has been holding this great day over us for a long ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c534-5 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, I thought I should say it just the same. My right honourable friend yesterday said ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c533-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I straight away congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Steel, and his colleagues on their initi...
Lord Strathclyde | 694 c533 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am well aware of that. The noble Lord, Lord McNally, was the one who said I always spoke...
Lord Howe of Aberavon | 694 c535 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since the Minister presses the necessity for cross-party agreement, will he answer two que...
Lord Higgins | 694 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that mechanism is not at all the same thing as Members other than party leaders being repr...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c535 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the original work of the cross-party group on reform of your Lordships’ House paved the wa...
Lord Morris of Aberavon | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we leave that point, will my noble friend answer this simple question: why cannot t...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course there is every reason for allowing Members of both Houses to take part in discus...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to repeat myself. The group contains representatives of the three main parti...
Earl of Onslow | 694 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that sounds like an in-house stitch-up if ever I heard one. Surely, first, the number shou...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the cross-party group has 11 members. I am happy to read out the names, if noble Lords wis...
Baroness Shephard of Northwold | 694 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He will know that yesterday when the State...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in-house it may be, but stitch-up it is not. The context is very clear. We have enabled fr...
Lord McNally | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, because the noble Lord has been barracked from his own Back Benches, can I suggest that th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) None the less, my Lords, the vote of the House of Commons is extremely significant and influential i...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister is placing great emphasis on the free votes in both Houses. Can he help me? W...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, our 2005 election manifesto allowed a free vote on the composition of the House. That free...
Lord Bilston | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at the moment, there is no commitment in the Labour Party manifesto for an 80 per cent or ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree that this has been a good-humoured debate, and I hope that we continue in that vei...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that we can let the word of the noble Lord, Lord McNally, be the last word ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c537 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that we should move on. I have answered the question.
Lord Pendry | 694 c524 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, such is the strength of the views of this House as expressed today that I believe we must ...
Lord Bilimoria | 694 c526-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Westminster is known the world over as the Mother of Parliaments, and the mother of the Mo...
Viscount Falkland | 694 c494-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, by whichever path one comes into this House, one is immediately made aware of the importan...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 694 c539 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly understand that many Members of your Lordships’ House are not particularly hap...
Lord Steel of Aikwood | 694 c539-42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall seek to be fairly brief in replying to the debate. I begin by thanking all noble L...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 694 c500-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall omit the conventional opening compliments to the noble Lord, Lord Steel, and the n...

Subjects

House of Lords
Hereditary peers
House of Lords composition
Leave
House of Lords Appointments Commission
Offenders
Peers
Life peers
Reform
Retirement

Legislation

House of Lords Bill (HL) 2006-07

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