Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill. Motion that Commons insists on its disagreement with the Lords in their amendments Nos 2, 3, 5, 6 and 10; does not insist on its amendments 10K to 10N in lieu but disagrees with the Lords in their amendments 10P and 10Q in lieu of those amendments and proposes Government amendments (a) to (j) in lieu. Agreed to on division (301 to 188).
Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill
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Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill. Lords insistence, disagreement and amendments in lieu.
Tuesday, 17 July 2007
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Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill. Commons insistence, non-insistence, disagreement and amendments in lieu.
Wednesday, 18 July 2007
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Proceeding contributions
Dominic Grieve | 463 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I entirely agree. It is necessary for the Government to show leadership in this matter. It is w...
Ian Stewart | 463 c339-40 (Link to this contribution)
It is a bit rich for the hon. Gentleman to pray in aid the line that the Government took when he arg...
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Viscount Hailsham | 463 c339 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend constantly says that the problem is a managerial one and in a sense it is, but ultima...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c338-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is indeed helpful, and it is exactly the sort of time frame that I would have expected. It high...
Jack Straw | 463 c338 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman asks about the date of implementation of the main part of the Bill, I am happy...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c338 (Link to this contribution)
Having listened to the right hon. Gentleman, I have to admit that there is a certain irony to this d...
Jack Straw | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
If I knew that at this stage—I have been in post for just under three weeks—I would tell the House. ...
John Redwood | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way; he is being very patient. It might help his ...
Jack Straw | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether I might just wind up, as I am taking up other people’s time. We have moved a great ...
John Redwood | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way?
Chris Mullin | 463 c342 (Link to this contribution)
I am well aware of that, and I regard my right hon. Friend’s career as one of the most successful of...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c340 (Link to this contribution)
First, I wish to see the Bill on the statute book, and I hope that the way in which the Opposition h...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c341 (Link to this contribution)
I have had discussions with the Secretary of State for Justice and he knows my views on this matter ...
Ian Stewart | 463 c341 (Link to this contribution)
I have some sympathy with the hon. Gentleman’s feelings about five to seven years being too long. Wi...
Jack Straw | 463 c342 (Link to this contribution)
What I have said, for those who appreciate the way in which the courts view such matters, is signifi...
Chris Mullin | 463 c341-2 (Link to this contribution)
We are, as the hon. Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve) said, inching forward in the right directio...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c340-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry about the right hon. Gentleman’s tone, because that is the very thing that I do not seek ...
Jack Straw | 463 c340 (Link to this contribution)
I have great respect for the hon. Gentleman, as he knows, but he is advancing a very weak argument. ...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c341 (Link to this contribution)
I can reassure my hon. and learned Friend that for us, five to seven years is far too long. However,...
Lord Garnier | 463 c341 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can help the Government, through my hon. Friend. I have noticed during the past 18 months,...
Chris Mullin | 463 c342 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to hear that. If it is easier to deal with the police, perhaps that could be done first.
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Andrew Dismore | 463 c343-4 (Link to this contribution)
May I say in response to earlier comments in the debate that everybody in the House wants to see the...
Ed Davey | 463 c343 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman makes an important point. It is why the Secretary of State shou...
Viscount Hailsham | 463 c343 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point about risk aversion. Perhaps he would care to remind the House...
Ed Davey | 463 c342-3 (Link to this contribution)
Grossly negligent management that leads to the death of somebody in custody is wrong now; it was wro...
John Redwood | 463 c345 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, believe that the Secretary of State for Justice has moved in the right direction and I thank...
Viscount Hailsham | 463 c345 (Link to this contribution)
I was coming on to my fifth and last point. I accept what the Secretary of State has said, but cultu...
Jack Straw | 463 c345 (Link to this contribution)
That is one anxiety and it takes some time—I hope as short as possible—to work through, but another ...
Viscount Hailsham | 463 c344-5 (Link to this contribution)
You were kind enough to call me in the first debate, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I know that other hon. ...
Jack Straw | 463 c346 (Link to this contribution)
Let me explain to the right hon. Gentleman that no official has said that to me and I do not believe...
Jack Straw | 463 c346-7 (Link to this contribution)
This has been an interesting debate and I am grateful for the acknowledgement of the changes made as...
John Redwood | 463 c346 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to hear that reassurance, but it makes it even stranger that we are dealing with a period ...
Jack Straw | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I will, in one second. Some of the cultural issues involved in the problem need to be deal...
Andrew Dismore | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Jack Straw | 463 c334-5 (Link to this contribution)
I do not disagree with the burden of the hon. Gentleman’s argument, and that is to some extent why I...
Dominic Grieve | 463 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, and also for the approach that he has adopted, but the...
Jack Straw | 463 c331-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That this House insists on its disagreement with the Lords in their Amendments Nos. 2...
Jack Straw | 463 c333-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend and to other hon. Members who have expressed their concern in robust...
Viscount Hailsham | 463 c332 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Secretary of State moves on, let me say that his remarks highlight one of the problems in...
Jack Straw | 463 c332-3 (Link to this contribution)
The precise wording that the right hon. and learned Gentleman searches for is not in the Bill, so it...
Viscount Hailsham | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State forgive me for reminding him that I have been the Minister with responsi...
Jack Straw | 463 c336-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has to make a choice and so, with great respect, has the other place. As a result...
Jack Straw | 463 c337 (Link to this contribution)
Well, I am quite sure that the right hon. and learned Gentleman was altogether a more effective Mini...
Elfyn Llwyd | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Jack Straw | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, after I have given way to my hon. Friend the Member for Hendo...
Andrew Dismore | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
The time scale does seem rather long, but as I have said before, the date is more important than the...
Jack Straw | 463 c335 (Link to this contribution)
First, I am happy to provide regular reports. I am open to suggestions, but I am certainly happy to ...
Elfyn Llwyd | 463 c335-6 (Link to this contribution)
As a criminal lawyer, I was involved in the implementation of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1...
Jack Straw | 463 c336 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point, and he is absolutely right about PACE. I was in practice fo...
Ed Davey | 463 c336 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State needs to understand what he is asking the House to agree to. First, he is ask...
David Winnick | 463 c333 (Link to this contribution)
All of us have to accept that the police and the Prison Service will not be included immediately in ...
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