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Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 10 July 2007, in the House of Lords.
Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Part 2 of 3 records.

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Reference

693 c1326-55 

Session

2006-07

Department

Department for Communities and Local Government

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 74-EN also published.
Wednesday, 23 May 2007
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Greaves | 693 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry. I speak as a member of an executive who has got to know lots of others. Surely the vast ...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1353-4 (Link to this contribution) I stick by what I have said. I am certainly not disputing what the noble Lord said about the present...

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Baroness Hanham | 693 c1354 (Link to this contribution) I would like some advice. We are in the midst of one of the most important debates that we shall hav...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 693 c1354 (Link to this contribution) It is possible for us to adjourn in the middle of a debate, if the Committee wishes to do so. With n...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) But there is no reason why anyone should. It is unlikely. We are looking for local parties to put fo...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I apologise again for interrupting. I hope that the noble Baroness was not suggesting that all the e...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I am not suggesting that. In this model, we are making a distinction between the executive, which re...
Baroness Hanham | 693 c1352 (Link to this contribution) As an interruption has taken place, perhaps I may ask a question. This slate of people could be put ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 693 c1355 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. In moving this Motion, I suggest that the Committee stag...
Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1343 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we will continue this subject through the subsequent stages of this Bill. The noble L...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1343-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 114: 114: Clause 62, page 33, line 19, leave out ““the executive leader”” and ...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1344-5 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend’s amendment. The 2006 census of local councils showed that 41 per cent of ...
Baroness Hanham | 693 c1345 (Link to this contribution) I am only half in support of the amendment. It is worth thinking more about it. I come from an autho...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1345-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the noble Baroness’s support—I think it was actually slightly more than half. I wa...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1346 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister clarify a point for me? My understanding of the current system is that it is perfec...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1339-41 (Link to this contribution) This has been an important debate as Clause 62 is part of the main architecture of the Bill. I am gr...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1341 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may invite the noble Baroness to have discussions with her colleague, the noble Baroness, ...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1341-2 (Link to this contribution) If we had had a Labour council and Josie Farrington in East Sussex things might have been very diffe...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1342-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness and wish to continue the debate with a few further points. First, I want ...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1351-2 (Link to this contribution) I am in no doubt about where the noble Lords opposite stand on our proposals. Their position is rath...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1352 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may ask one question: will they be members of the council in terms of voting in the counci...
Baroness Hanham | 693 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) I have a number of amendments in this group and also support Amendment No. 115. I agree with the nob...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1350-1 (Link to this contribution) I find myself in something of a quandary on this because I agree absolutely with the assessments of ...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1346 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is quite right. As I said, it is in the logic of the situation that we are trying...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1346-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that. I was being provocative, but there is an assumption throughout that, when th...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1347-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 115: 115: Clause 62, page 33, line 28, leave out subsection (6) The noble Lor...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1346 (Link to this contribution) I object to the continual assumption that those who do not agree with the Government’s polices and m...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1346 (Link to this contribution) Let me correct that impression. I never said that, and I do not believe it. I simply have some diffe...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1326-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 112: 112: After Clause 60, insert the following new Clause— ““Voting at electi...
Baroness Hanham | 693 c1329 (Link to this contribution) I am always lost in admiration for how the Liberal Democrats manage to produce a proposal for propor...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1329 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend’s amendment referred to the use of the supplementary vote for electing mayors. My mo...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1331-2 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to turn this into a seminar on voting systems but I think that it is necessary to point o...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 693 c1330-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend very much for his comments and for giving me the opportunity to offer a few ...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 693 c1329-30 (Link to this contribution) The Liberal Democrats should feel pleased at the progress made over the years in considering change....
Lord Greaves | 693 c1337-9 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment No. 126 in this group would tackle the problem in a slightly different way by simply re...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 693 c1336-7 (Link to this contribution) Not for the first time today I have been educated in the current practices within councils. I have n...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1334-5 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lady Hamwee in her attempt to introduce more flexibility and choice in the...
Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1333-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 113: 113: Clause 62, page 33, line 6, leave out subsection (2) The noble Baro...
Lord Greaves | 693 c1332-3 (Link to this contribution) Hidden in the middle of that were the words ““mayoral systems””. I therefore take it that the noble ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 693 c1332 (Link to this contribution) I can explain the terms of reference to the noble Lord if that would be helpful. The review is looki...
Baroness Hanham | 693 c1335-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 121A in the group seeks to do very much the same as the amendment of the noble Barones...
Baroness Andrews | 693 c1352 (Link to this contribution) Yes. They are full members of the council.

Subjects

Elections
Electoral systems
Local government
Local government executive
Single transferable vote

Legislation

Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill 2006-07

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