Serious Crime Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 66 to 82 agreed to, clause 76 agreed to as amended. Schedules 6 to 13 agreed to, schedules 7, 10, 13 agreed to as amended. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 59).
Serious Crime Bill [HL]
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 27 March 2007,
in the House of Lords.
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2006-07Legislative stage
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Serious Crime Bill (HL) 2006-07. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 27 March 2007
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Tuesday, 27 March 2007
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Serious Crime Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 27-EN also published.
Tuesday, 16 January 2007
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Tuesday, 16 January 2007
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1601-2 (Link to this contribution)
I hate to disappoint the noble Baroness, particularly on her first outing on the Bill today, but I m...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1602 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply. This is a warming-up amendment. I am not sure that the Minister...
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Baroness Noakes | 690 c1602-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 123:
123: Clause 75 , page 42, line 5, at end insert—
““(2) The Secretary of S...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1608 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for interrupting but I realise that I did not respond to the noble Baroness, Lady Carneg...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1608 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to say a few words on what the Minister of State has just said. I shall read carefully...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 690 c1608 (Link to this contribution)
My question was whether it was necessary to amend a Scottish police Act, because I believe that the ...
Lord Crickhowell | 690 c1604-5 (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend on this issue. I read with concern the evidence sent to a number of us by ...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1604 (Link to this contribution)
I shall say one or two words about both amendments. I am sympathetic to Amendment No. 123 and I thin...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1605-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to give the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, a more comprehensive answer on these issues than...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 690 c1605 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friends have raised very important points and we shall all listen with a lot of interest to...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1614 (Link to this contribution)
I am sympathetic to the thrust of the amendment. It tightens up the new provisions in relation to th...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1614-5 (Link to this contribution)
I hope I shall be able to persuade the noble Baroness that her amendment is unnecessary. I understan...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1615 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister both for setting that out and the confirmation that HMRC currently onl...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1616 (Link to this contribution)
The point is that HMRC can only exercise its power within its authority. It must act in the way in w...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1616 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for clarifying that, but whether HMRC’s functions could not fit within...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1616 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 132A:
132A: Clause 76, page 42, line 26, leave out ““, 61 or 62”” and insert “...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1616 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 129A:
129A: Clause 76, page 42, line 18, after ““56(3)”” insert ““, 62””
On Q...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1617 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now adjourn during pleasure until a time to be notified on...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1616-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 133:
133: Schedule 13, page 106, line 43, column 2, at end insert—
On Questi...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1608-9 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is very gracious in letting me decide what to do with my own amendments.
I thank all...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1608 (Link to this contribution)
I do not believe that it does. We scrutinised the Act very carefully to make sure that the provision...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1608 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that we have managed to put to rest the Scottish question. I shall be happyto read in Hans...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1612-3 (Link to this contribution)
I can certainly assist in relation to how the system works at present. I suppose that the noble Baro...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1612 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Ministerfor that reply and I apologise for including in my amendment prosecutio...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1611-2 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the nature of the noble Baroness’s amendment and Ishall try to concentrate not on its f...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, will not mind if I speak for her. I have not had the ad...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1613-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 127:
127: Schedule 11, page 97, line 24, at end insert—
““The following amendm...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1613 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for that explanation. I would like to return to the bodies that, as I men...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 690 c1588 (Link to this contribution)
That was helpful. The noble Baroness addressed three issues. First, there may in the end be no diffe...
Viscount Bridgeman | 690 c1588-91 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 118:
118: Clause 66, page 36, line 38, at beginning insert ““Subject to subsec...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 690 c1591 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with everything that the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman, has said. We on these Benches suppo...
Lord Crickhowell | 690 c1586 (Link to this contribution)
Before we leave this point, I should say that I was specifically questioning ““in particular””. If y...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 690 c1586-8 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, I am grateful to the Minister for her further elucidation. She will not be surprised that w...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1588 (Link to this contribution)
I just want to assist if I can. I got the impression—and the noble Baroness will obviously have to t...
Lord Crickhowell | 690 c1584 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for not being in the Committee when my noble friend moved her amendment. I had not inten...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 690 c1584-5 (Link to this contribution)
When the Minister was speaking about adding to Schedule 6 by way of an order, she defended that by s...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1585-6 (Link to this contribution)
First, I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Carnegy of Lour, that we are structuring these provisions c...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1596-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 120A:
120A: Schedule 7, page 74, line 14, at end insert—
““68A In section 417(2...
Lord Crickhowell | 690 c1595-6 (Link to this contribution)
As I read this amendment, I think I exactly anticipated what the Minister’s reply was likely to be. ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1596 (Link to this contribution)
I am. When we merged the two agencies, we put in amendments to enable SOCA to perform its functions ...
Lord Henley | 690 c1594 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 120:
120: Clause 66 , page 36, line 40, at end insert—
““( ) SOCA shall, on an...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1594-5 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the noble Lord that it is entirely right and proper that the Serious Organised Crime Ag...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1594 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may reassure the noble Viscount further. He is right that we are on the brink of significa...
Viscount Bridgeman | 690 c1594 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I am grateful to the Minister. We shall read very carefully her reply. In the mean time, I be...
Viscount Bridgeman | 690 c1593 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the Minister for that very comprehensive explanation, in particular her reassu...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1578 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Mov...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1580-1 (Link to this contribution)
As we come to the close of the Committee stage—not quite yet, but we are getting there—it is about t...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1581-4 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Burnett, and the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, for exploring the issues ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 690 c1578-80 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 115:
115: Schedule 6, page 68, leave out lines 12 to 21
The noble Baroness sa...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 690 c1598 (Link to this contribution)
The amendments mention the Acts to which they refer, but I see no mention of Scotland. Do the Acts a...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 690 c1598 (Link to this contribution)
It is quite important because the Revenue and Customs applies to Scotland. If that has not been done...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1598 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that they apply to Scotland. I shall send the noble Baroness a note, which I shall co...
Lord Henley | 690 c1599 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 121:
121: Schedule 7, page 80, line 33, at end insert—
““(8) Any guidance issu...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1598 (Link to this contribution)
I shall ensure that the position is clarified.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1599-600 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Henley, for moving the amendment. I think that I can sati...
Lord Burnett | 690 c1599 (Link to this contribution)
Although our names are not attached to the amendment, we on these Benches support it, for the very r...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 690 c1601 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 121A and 121B:
121A: Schedule 10, page 95, leave out lines 32 to 35
121B: ...
Lord Henley | 690 c1600-1 (Link to this contribution)
I have had an assurance from the Minister that the first half of my amendment will be covered in tha...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1601 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 122:
122: Clause 75, page 42, line 4, leave out ““regulation of””
The noble B...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1591-3 (Link to this contribution)
It gives me considerable pleasure to add my voice to those of the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman, an...
Baroness Noakes | 690 c1609-10 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 124:
124: Clause 75, page 42, line 5, at end insert—
““( ) The Commissioners o...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 690 c1586 (Link to this contribution)
I hope I made clear that this is not a restricted, closed list, so it will enable us to add things i...
Lord Henley | 690 c1596 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend Lord Crickhowell said that he exactly anticipated what the Minister’s reply was goin...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 690 c1578 (Link to this contribution)
I advise the Committee that if Amendment No. 115 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 116 or ...
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