Police and Justice Bill. Lords third reading and debate on amendments. Debate on motion that Bill do now pass. Agreed to on question. Passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.
Police and Justice Bill
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 18 October 2006,
in the House of Lords,
led by Baroness Scotland of Asthal.
The answering
member was Baroness Anelay of St Johns.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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685 c771-839Session
2005-06Legislative stage
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c829 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 53 and 54:
Page 42, leave out lines 9 and 10.
Page 42, line 13, leave out ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c829 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 55:
Page 45, leave out line 20.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Schedule 1...
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Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c829 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 56:
Page 57, line 29, leave out ““for Justice, Community Safety and Custody”” ...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c829-30 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 57:
Page 75, line 33, at end insert-
““A relevant council or joint committee s...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c825-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 35:
Page 36, line 32, after ““court”” insert ““in the circumstances provided f...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 685 c826 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support these government amendments without reservation. I am grateful to the noble Baro...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c826-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 36 to 51:
Page 36, leave out line 34.
Page 36, leave out line 37.
Page 3...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c831 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Harris of Richmond, for repeating her arguments,...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c831-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, sadly not. I am grateful to the Minister for reiterating his stance, but it does not take ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c837 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 60 to 62:
Page 101, line 13, leave out from ““that”” to first ““to”” in line...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c837 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 70:
Leave out Schedule 11.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Schedule 12 [Tra...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c836 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord is being a bit provocative, but no matter. He has persuaded me that when we...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 685 c837 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, given that fulsome assurance from my noble friend and the clarity with which he said that ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c835 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Harris, has advanced a carefully crafted argument, as he always does ...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 685 c835-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for my noble friend’s reply. I am not surprised by it; I expect a reply of t...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 685 c833-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 59:
Page 79, line 39, at end insert ““and that the Mayor of London in making su...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 685 c834-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in this comity of action at this time in the evening, I ask the noble Lord, Lord Harris of...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c837 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 71:
Leave out Schedule 12.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Schedule 13 [The...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c838 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 73 to 75:
Page 153, line 2, at end insert-
““Prison Act 1952 (c. 52)
(1) Sec...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c838 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 76:
Page 170, line 30, leave out from beginning to end of line 38 on page 171.
...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c839 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 77:
Line 7, leave out from ““to”” to first ““to”” in line 8 and insert ““make f...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c839 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass.
Moved, That the Bill do now pass.—(Baroness Sco...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 685 c839 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when the Bill began, it was perceived in the media as being rather dull but large, and one...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c839 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with the noble Baroness, I wish to express the grateful thanks of Members on these Benches...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c839 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, flushed as I am with such embarrassing compliments, I thank noble Lords for them. But I al...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c799-803 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 16:
Before Clause 28, insert the following new clause-
““HER MAJESTY'S CHIEF I...
Lord Ramsbotham | 685 c803-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that statement. May I say how grateful I am, as I am sure many ot...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 685 c806-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I have tabled amendments in this group I shall speak at this point rather than wait unt...
Lord Dholakia | 685 c808 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I add my thanks to the Minister. The only criticism I had about the Bill was that the issu...
Lord Acton | 685 c808 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, suggested several important refinements, but in general I...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c794-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is my turn to respond to the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman, on this matter. I know tha...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 685 c796-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 15:
Leave out Clause 25.
The noble Baroness said: My Lords, in view of our ea...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 685 c798-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her reply. However, I remain unconvinced. My reservation, w...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c797-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, for the way in which she has opened this issue...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c790-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, first, as I have said on a number of occasions, I understand the noble Baroness’s passion ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 685 c792 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her thoughtful reply. I agree that we are as one on the imp...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c789 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
Page 13, line 37, after ““arrangements”” insert ““, made up of provision co...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 685 c789-90 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 6:
Page 16, leave out from beginning of line 38 to end of line 3 on page 18.
...
Viscount Bridgeman | 685 c792-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 14:
Page 22, line 13, at end insert-
““28B TREATMENT OF ORGANISATIONS PERFORMI...
Lord Hylton | 685 c794 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome these two amendments, particularly as they come from the Front Bench of the offi...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c788-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, for his kind comments. ...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 685 c787-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for bringing forward these amendments to address the Ci...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c787 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 4:
Page 13, line 35, leave out from ““provision”” to ““about”” inline 36.
The ...
Baroness D'Souza | 685 c785 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her care and patience not only in meeting us but in going to such...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c825 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 32:
Leave out Clause 36.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 37 [Conseq...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c825 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 33:
Leave out Clause 37.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 38 [Interp...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c825 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 34:
Leave out Clause 38.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 50 [Attend...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 29:
Leave out Clause 33.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 34 [Furthe...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 28:
Leave out Clause 32.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 33 [Report...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c825 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 31:
Leave out Clause 35.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 36 [Transf...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 30:
Leave out Clause 34.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 35 [Abolit...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 25:
Leave out Clause 29.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 30 [Power ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 27:
Leave out Clause 31.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 32 [Powers...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 26:
Leave out Clause 30.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 31 [Minist...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c815-24 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 17 to 21:
Before Clause 28, insert the following new clause-
““HER MAJESTY'S...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c824 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 22:
Leave out Clause 28.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Clause 29 [Genera...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 685 c814 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, yes, I have seen paragraph 2(2)(a) in Amendment No. 18, relating to the Crown Prosecution ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c814-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, yes, I understand that; it is why my noble and learned friend the Attorney-General will co...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c814 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understand that that can provide more pleasure, so I shall allow the noble Baroness to e...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c814 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister—I have a slow burn on that.
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c812-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken. I am struggling with the image evoked by the nobl...
Baroness Quin | 685 c812 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, having spoken in last week’s debate and expressed my concern about what the Government the...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 685 c810-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, am very grateful for the Government’s clear change of heart in answer to the stron...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c808-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have tabled a number of amendments in this large group. I added my name to Amendments No...
Lord Garden | 685 c776-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is also on this amendment. The issues are clear and well known; I will not rehears...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 685 c775-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment on the basis of the argument advanced by my noble friend Lord King...
Baroness D'Souza | 685 c773-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:
After Clause 13, insert the following new clause-
““POWER TO SEARCH AEROPLA...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c773 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as ever, I am deeply grateful to the Minister for once again explaining the inexplicable, ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c772-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am rather sad at the noble Baroness’ last comment; I always enjoy her speeches on best v...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 685 c771-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
Page 3, leave out line 13.
The noble Baroness said: My Lords, as I indicat...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 685 c780-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise briefly to support the principle underlying the amendment. It is essential that the...
Lord Hylton | 685 c780 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Archer of Sandwell, has shown clearly how a coach and horses can be d...
Lord Archer of Sandwell | 685 c777-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we are on well trodden ground. The proposal of the noble Baroness, Lady D’Souza, was debat...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c783-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment deals with the case where it is not practicable to secure a warrant. However...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c783 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is not simply material. Section 8 of PACE allows a constable to enter and search if the...
Baroness D'Souza | 685 c783 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. Section 8 of PACE refers to search by warran...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c782-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understand the way in which the noble Lord has put it. We would say that in each case a ...
Lord Archer of Sandwell | 685 c783 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for giving way. Does not Section 8 also require that...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c781-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, first, I thank noble Baroness, Lady D’Souza, and my noble and learned friend Lord Archer f...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 685 c782 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise. There is a point of clarification here. I take the point that when permission...
Viscount Bridgeman | 685 c796 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to be the vehicle through which the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, raised the quest...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 685 c828-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 52:
After Clause 50, insert the following new clause-
““LIVE LINK BAIL
(1) The...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 685 c830-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I had a sense of déjà vu when I saw these amendments on the Marshalled List, so much so th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 685 c837-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 72:
Leave out Schedule 13.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Schedule 17 [Min...
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