Police and Justice Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 3 to 9 agreed to. Schedules 2 to 4 agreed to. Part 1 of 2 records.
Police and Justice Bill
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Police and Justice Bill . Brought from Commons . Explanatory Notes HL Bill 104-EN also published
Thursday, 11 May 2006
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c159 (Link to this contribution)
We can probably all say ““Amen”” to that if the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, is of a similar view. I...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c158 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. What she is trying adduce here is that there are...
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Lord Dholakia | 684 c158 (Link to this contribution)
This intervention may give the Minister an opportunity to think about the reply that she may wish to...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c157-8 (Link to this contribution)
There have now been three, but the comments that I make are equally applicable. I remind the noble B...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c157 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. It was in fact a former Secretary of State, not the la...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c157 (Link to this contribution)
Since we had the advantage of discussing the detail of the Bill, I had hoped that we would have arri...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c156-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay of St Johns, for introducing my disquiet by opposin...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c155-6 (Link to this contribution)
I gave notice of my intention to oppose Schedule 2 standing part of the Bill, as I retain significan...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c155 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Mov...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c170-1 (Link to this contribution)
I rise in support of Amendment No. 82 and will also speak to Amendment No. 84, which stands in my na...
Baroness Henig | 684 c166 (Link to this contribution)
I have a great deal of sympathy with the amendment and I endorse much of what the noble Baroness, La...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c166-7 (Link to this contribution)
The amendment is best described as rather curious. As I understand it, the noble Baroness, Lady Harr...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c165-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 81:
Page 2, line 35, leave out subsections (1) and (2) and insert—
““The follo...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c168-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation. I remember with fondness many management letters ...
Viscount Bridgeman | 684 c169-70 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 82: "Page 3, line 31, at end insert-""““( ) In making an order under subsection ...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c167-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Henig, for her support. I am disappointed that the Ministe...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c168 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know whether this is the right thing to say, and it is certainly not in my brief—I know it ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c164 (Link to this contribution)
That would be highly desirable. Perhaps I did not talk about guidance, but guidance is there to ensu...
Baroness Henig | 684 c164 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened very carefully to everything that has been said in this very interesting exchange. M...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c164 (Link to this contribution)
As I explained earlier, this is not something novel, it is designed to deal with things at the margi...
Baroness Henig | 684 c159-61 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 80:
Page 2, line 14, leave out subsection (3).
The noble Baroness said: In mo...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 684 c161 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister will not be at all surprised to hear that I support the amendment tabled by the noble B...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c161-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to complete the trio of assent and support the noble Baroness, Lady Henig. When I saw her...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c162 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister explain why, if Section 107 of the 1972 Act is working effectively, it is necessar...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c162-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, on these occasions one should always start with a positive, if one can. I welcome my noble...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c163 (Link to this contribution)
Two questions have arisen as a result of the Minister’s response. First, with regard to the laudable...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c163-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will endeavour to answer the noble Baroness’s questions as best I can. Her final point related to ...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c164 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to be unkind to the Minister, but he was a member of a local authority when I was a me...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c188-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister. As I said originally, we do not oppose the idea of street bail, but I...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c187 (Link to this contribution)
Although my name is not attached to this amendment, we support it. The Minister accepted the argumen...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c187-8 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the concerns of the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, and the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia. How...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 684 c185-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her reassuring response. In relation to the presence of the appropriate adu...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c186-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 85: "Page 90, line 22, at end insert-""““( ) A constable may impose the conditio...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c184 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister elaborate on the position of a responsible adult? I understand that it is almost im...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
Before I give a detailed response, perhaps I may say that the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, is absolu...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 684 c182-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 84A:
Page 89, line 36, after ““person”” insert ““aged 17 or over””
The noble ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c183-4 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, has done us a service in raising this issue, because it will be ...
Viscount Bridgeman | 684 c182 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful for the support that I have had from the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, and the ...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c178-80 (Link to this contribution)
I strongly support this amendment. If I may, I will speak from my script in the interests of brevity...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c180-1 (Link to this contribution)
I say again how pleased I am at the supportive comments that have been made from all around the Comm...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c181 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has been positive. In relation to what the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, said, are there s...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c181-2 (Link to this contribution)
If the noble Lord is talking about training in relation to children, I will certainly take that matt...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c172-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend Lady Henig for the compliment she paid the Home Office. It is a rare moment ...
Viscount Bridgeman | 684 c175 (Link to this contribution)
We on this side are a generous lot and would like to associate ourselves with the remarks of the nob...
Viscount Bridgeman | 684 c175-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 83:
Page 4, line 8, at end insert-
““( ) Training for Community Support Office...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 684 c177-8 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support this amendment whole heartedly. I hope noble Lords will forgive me if in some resp...
Baroness Henig | 684 c171-2 (Link to this contribution)
One of the reasons why I want to speak to this amendment is to pay tribute to the Home Office. Heave...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c172 (Link to this contribution)
That is precisely the reason why my noble friend said that this is very much a probing amendment. We...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c192-3 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendment No. 87, which is a probing amendment grouped with Amendment No. 86 that w...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c191-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 86: "Page 90, line 25, at end insert-""““( ) Conditions of bail imposed under su...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 684 c189 (Link to this contribution)
My good sense is going to remain and I will need to press the matter. I entirely agree with the nobl...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c189 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness does that, I should like to understand better why she would do so. The who...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c196-7 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the noble Lord’s concern, and he is right to say that three hours was the time limit re...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c195-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 88:
Page 5, line 5, at end insert ““for no more than three hours””
The noble ...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c194-5 (Link to this contribution)
I did not make that promise that this was a probing amendment, but as there is still plenty of time ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 684 c197 (Link to this contribution)
I think this might be a convenient moment for the House to be resumed. I suggest that proceedings in...
Lord Dholakia | 684 c197 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister, but the difference is that custody officers still have powers to take a decisi...
Baroness Henig | 684 c164-5 (Link to this contribution)
If we come to the reserve power, perhaps we have a difference about the function of the Home Secreta...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 684 c193-4 (Link to this contribution)
I would be delighted to be satisfied by the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, but I regret that on this o...
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