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Police and Justice Bill

Police and Justice Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to as amended. Schedule 2 under consideration. Part 1 of 2 records.

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Reference

683 c645-707 

Session

2005-06

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lord Borrie | 683 c661-2 (Link to this contribution) I want to pursue the point about the chief executive raised by the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia. The Mi...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c662 (Link to this contribution) I understand my noble friend’s point. He is very experienced in the public service and will know fro...

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Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c662 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Bassam, for his response to a large group of amendments tabled...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness concludes on that point, I should like to make a further point to drive th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c663 (Link to this contribution) That intervention from the Minister was very helpful. We are all trying to get the same result. It i...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 64, line 22, leave out from beginning to ““(offence”” in line 24 and in...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c664 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13:"Page 64, line 29, leave out sub-paragraph (3)." On Question, amendment agre...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c664-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14:"Before Clause 2, insert the following new clause—" ““REVISED POWER TO ALTE...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c666-7 (Link to this contribution) Most of the debate at Second Reading, both in this House and in another place, focused on the reorga...
Lord Dholakia | 683 c667-9 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to add my name to the amendment. It is a cleverly crafted amendment which meets the c...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c673-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to Members of the Committee who have supported my amendment. Naturally, I am grateful ...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c677 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15:"Page 71, line 4, leave out paragraphs 1 and 2." The noble Baroness said: Am...
Lord Hylton | 683 c669 (Link to this contribution) This is a very important amendment. I support the noble Baronesses, Lady Anelay and Lady Harris of R...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c669-73 (Link to this contribution) I fully appreciate that this is an issue that, although not addressed in the Bill for the purposes o...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 683 c679 (Link to this contribution) I will speak to Amendments Nos. 19, 21 and 57 in my name. On Amendment No. 21, which relates to BCU ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c679-80 (Link to this contribution) As we are in a teasing mode, I cannot help but say that I hope that the Official Report does not cha...
Baroness Lockwood | 683 c677 (Link to this contribution) If the amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment Nos. 16 to 21 due to the pre-emption rule.
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c677-9 (Link to this contribution) I support Amendments Nos. 15 and 19 and shall speak to my Amendments Nos. 16 to 18, which are groupe...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 683 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) I doubt that. I have to say that it is slightly concerning to have been described as ““radical”” by ...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) When I moved Amendment No. 15, I indicated that I would speak to Amendments Nos. 18, 19 and 21. Now ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c652 (Link to this contribution) It is my belief—I do not have the document in front of me, so I am subject to correction—that the do...
Lord Dholakia | 683 c650 (Link to this contribution) I do not dispute what the noble Lord has said. The point I was trying to make is that you can take e...
Lord Monson | 683 c650 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, said he disagreed with the noble Lord, Lord Waddington, and thought t...
Lord Waddington | 683 c652 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Baroness agree with Jonathan Freedland that it is of great importance that the police...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c650-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall deal first with the point raised by the noble Lord, Lord Waddington. It is a wonderful privi...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c647 (Link to this contribution) There is very little to add to what the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, has said, other than that we su...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c645-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 9, at end insert—" ““(   )   the Police Standards Unit”” The ...
Lord Dholakia | 683 c649 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment, as my noble friend Lady Harris, said, but I do not necessarily subscribe to...
Lord Waddington | 683 c647-9 (Link to this contribution) This may be a probing amendment, but it is none the worse for that. I was certainly glad to see it o...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c623 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Moved acc...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c661 (Link to this contribution) I do not share the pessimistic view of these matters held by the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia. This is ...
Lord Dholakia | 683 c661 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister elaborate further on the role of the Home Secretary in the appointment of the chie...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c657-61 (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that it is the full-blown works, but we had better check and be absolutely certa...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c657 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether that is the full, over-arching one. I was certainly aware that there was an RIA—I o...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c657 (Link to this contribution) Before I get into the body of the response to this very wide group of amendments, I should advise yo...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c656-7 (Link to this contribution) We support these amendments and I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 2, 10 and 11 in particular, to whic...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c653-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 1, line 9, at end insert—" ““( ) 15 per cent of the Agency’s funding s...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c653 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who took part in this short debate. It was intended to be a gentle,...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c652-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether to rise; perhaps I should. I do not know whether the noble Lord is t...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c707 (Link to this contribution) The Minister nearly replied unexpectedly by actually accepting an amendment, but as ever I accept th...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c707 (Link to this contribution) This is a little confusing. While Amendment No. 53 has been spoken to, we still have other amendment...
Lord Haskel | 683 c707 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Harris, said he was speaking to Amendments Nos. 53 to 56.
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c707 (Link to this contribution) And that was accepted at the time? Very well. [Amendments Nos. 54 to 58 not moved.]
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness has anticipated wonderfully what I was going to say. I can be brief. She says the...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c707 (Link to this contribution) In view of the hour, I beg to move that the House be now resumed, and, in moving that, I suggest tha...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c702-5 (Link to this contribution) I now have to respond to a rather larger group of amendments than I originally intended, because the...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c705 (Link to this contribution) After that veritable tour de force by the noble Lord, Lord Bassam, I will be mercifully brief. I see...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 683 c701 (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak to Amendments Nos. 40 to 46, 48, and 50 to 52, which are in my name. Since Amendment...
Lord Dholakia | 683 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) I lend my support to Amendment No. 40. I am delighted that there is mention under paragraph (f) of m...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c706 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 47:"Page 79, line 20, leave out from ““section”” to ““House”” in line 21 and ins...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c706 (Link to this contribution) I could be helpful on Amendment No. 47, and we could discharge it reasonably quickly. The noble Baro...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c706 (Link to this contribution) It may be convenient for the Government to break here.
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c705 (Link to this contribution) I cannot resist this. I would love to watch some of the football match, and no doubt I will get the ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c692-3 (Link to this contribution) May I say what a wide-ranging and important consensual debate this series of amendments has brought ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c693-7 (Link to this contribution) We think that the balance is about right at the moment, particularly if we use the affirmative proce...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c693 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to interrupt the Minister when she is trying to give us something we like, but when she s...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c697 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness gave crumb of comfort at the end, but she will understand that a meal of disconte...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 683 c697 (Link to this contribution) I meant to this House as well. But the list could have gone on and on.
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c697-9 (Link to this contribution) As ever, the noble Baroness has managed to say something that almost makes us all roll over and say,...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 39:"Page 77, line 21, leave out paragraphs 9 and 10." The noble Baroness said: ...
Lord Haskel | 683 c700 (Link to this contribution) If this amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 40 to 45 inclusive because of pre-emption...
Baroness Henig | 683 c700 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to the amendments in my name—Amendments Nos. 40 to 46, 48, 50 and 52. Amendment No. 40...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) I will speak briefly to Amendment No. 40 in this group, to which I have added my name. As the noble ...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c684 (Link to this contribution) Notwithstanding the Minister’s suggestion that we have conspiracy theories—perish the thought—I am n...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c682-4 (Link to this contribution) This is an interesting group of amendments. In a sense, they draw very heavily on the experience of ...
Baroness Lockwood | 683 c688 (Link to this contribution) I have to point out that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 23 to 34 unde...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 683 c684 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point, but the chief constable clearly has the responsibility to bring those matters b...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 683 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) I intend to speak briefly in support of Amendments Nos. 23, 31, 33, 36 and 38, to which I put my nam...
Lord Hylton | 683 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) I support the principle set out in Amendments Nos. 29 and 31 that authorities should elect their own...
Baroness Henig | 683 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) I speak to all the amendments standing in my name, in particular Amendments Nos. 23, 31 and 40. I am...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c689-90 (Link to this contribution) : The amendments in this large group deal with membership of police authorities. I listened carefull...
Lord Waddington | 683 c652 (Link to this contribution) As we are in Committee, I confess that I was a Minister of State in the Home Office when the Public ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) Follow that. I have been trying to avoid saying something like ““Wayne Rooney”” all day, but never m...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c684 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, it is very much the responsibility of police authorities to make sure that the force is bein...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 683 c684-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22:"Page 72, line 40, leave out paragraph 3." The noble Baroness said: I should...
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