Identity Cards Bill. Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 under consideration. (Part 2 of 2)
Identity Cards Bill
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Identity Cards Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 28-EN also published.
Wednesday, 19 October 2005
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Wednesday, 19 October 2005
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1055-7 (Link to this contribution)
It has been a very interesting debate, the balance of which has indicated the utility of the word ““...
Earl of Onslow | 675 c1057 (Link to this contribution)
I am, unsurprisingly, in a muddle here. I quite accept that electronically I have only just got up t...
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Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1057 (Link to this contribution)
The figures given by the noble Earl, Lord Northesk, in relation to failure rates are not those that ...
Earl of Northesk | 675 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution)
This is a fundamentally crucial problem. As the Minister appreciates, I have difficulties with data ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 675 c1058 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to ask the Minister to give way at 9.35 pm, but she was just talking about something that...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1058 (Link to this contribution)
I am just conscious of how much time we have already spent on this matter. I shall try to do as much...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution)
Neither the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, nor the noble Earl, Lord Onslow, are being in the least bit s...
Earl of Onslow | 675 c1058 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Phillips. This is important. As I understand it, biometric capture...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1059 (Link to this contribution)
It is also important to understand the way in which this whole thing has been looked at. Noble Lords...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 675 c1059 (Link to this contribution)
The second part should be the existing evidence of the fallibility or otherwise of the different asp...
Earl of Northesk | 675 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all Members of the Committee who have contributed to this—I was going to say ““shor...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that concern. That is why we have made it clear, and tried to identify the fact, that p...
Earl of Northesk | 675 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution)
In respect of equivalence with the poll tax, I would not have expected the Minister to say anything ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 675 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I assure the Committee that this scheme has no similarity to the poll tax, inasmuch as we think that...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 675 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I disagree with the noble Baroness. There is one glaring similarity with the poll tax. As a result o...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 675 c1062 (Link to this contribution)
In view of what has gone before, I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and...
Earl of Erroll | 675 c1043 (Link to this contribution)
This amendment gives me at an opportunity to say what I should have said on the previous amendment i...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 675 c1043-4 (Link to this contribution)
The amendment is short and pertinent, and I shall try to make a short and pertinent speech in suppor...
Baroness Seccombe | 675 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
We hear what the Minister said about Clause 6, but he has not dealt with the totality of the report....
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 675 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
There is parliamentary control in the sense that such matters can and will from time to time be brou...
Lord Crickhowell | 675 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
In a sense, ““convenient”” is a marketing word by government, but we can take advantage of it. If th...
Earl of Northesk | 675 c1047-50 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 8:"Page 1, line 9, leave out ““convenient””"
The noble Earl said: I certainly d...
Lord Crickhowell | 675 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution)
The real point of the amendment is that it deals with function creep. In 1950, a parliamentary commi...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 675 c1044 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the Minister does not reject the amendment out of hand. It is important that Parliament ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 675 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution)
The bodies that the Minister has just enumerated—advisory groups and so on, to which the noble Baron...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 675 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, this short debate—relatively short in terms of the way in which we are progressing through ...
Lord Crickhowell | 675 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
I still wonder whether the people who vote are entirely aware of the obligations that will be placed...
Lord Maxton | 675 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
I remember making a very similar argument to that which the noble Lord is making today about changin...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 675 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
I did not want to interrupt the noble Lord on that point, but we are not referring exclusively to th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 675 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend for tabling the amendment, which I support. I feel that it would br...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 675 c1054 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend has done a service to the Committee in focusing our thoughts on ““convenient”” becau...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 675 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution)
My noble kinsman—I do not often have the chance to say that—who has been a kinsman since the 17th ce...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 675 c1053 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to shock the noble Baroness Lady Henig, by opposing the amendment. I do so with deference...
Earl of Onslow | 675 c1053 (Link to this contribution)
The one thing that has made me really blanch with horror is what my noble friend said about the fail...
Earl of Erroll | 675 c1051-3 (Link to this contribution)
I realise that certain points I wanted to make in relation to Amendment No. 7 can be made equally co...
Lord Crickhowell | 675 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution)
I was not aware that the Government were advertising this legislation on the lines that it was their...
Baroness Seccombe | 675 c947 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:"Page 1, line 4, at end insert ““in a form approved by Parliament””"
The nobl...
Baroness Seccombe | 675 c1042-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
Page 1, line 4, at end insert "in a form approved by Parliament"
The nobl...
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