Health and Social Care Bill (Programme) (No. 4)

The right hon. Gentleman might think that that on its own will protect the system, but as he well knows, I am pointing out what public health professionals are saying. [Interruption.] What I am saying is that the Secretary of State's interpretation of the legislation is not shared by those who work in public health who think that there are huge risks in the Bill. I was also making the point that when it comes to the fundamental issue of the control or powers of the health and wellbeing boards, we should be very clear that they do not have sign-off. That was my point.