Pensions Bill

My Lords, with great respect to the Minister, I set that out in my initial remarks—I do not know whether he is trying to delay things. As to process, the noble Lord is completely wrong. In fact, the Minister read the departmental brief and then said that I was not saying that all the issues should in principle be re-examined. I have come here to help the Minister. I have tried to get an assessment of his intentions in the legislation. Post-legislative scrutiny could be done at very little cost by a committee in Parliament—I have no particular views about whether it should be a Joint Committee or a Select Committee. I have tried to leave the Government as much flexibility as possible. The noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, was correct. We should stop talking and start scrutinising. I should like to test the opinion of the House. On Question, Whether the said amendment shall be agreed to? Their Lordships divided: Contents, 141; Not-Contents, 138.