Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill [Lords]

Although I agree with my hon. Friend that there are circumstances where legal aid in tribunals is urgently necessary, I hope that he also recognises that many tribunal procedures are probably conducted more expeditiously if no lawyer is directly involved—I hope that hon. Members will forgive me for putting it that way—and that we do not want to encourage an expectation that legal representation is necessary at a wide range of tribunals, thus resulting in severe cost implications, as that would not achieve the objective that he and I share.