Welfare Reform Bill

I pay tribute to noble Lords who have contributed to the debate so effectively. Again, it is most helpful to have personal experience of these things to drive home just what a challenge this policy faces. With regard to what the Minister said, there is in fact lots of adequate evidence of the efficacy of CBT; the two pilots will simply look at the best possible mode of delivery. So there is no need to wait for those pilots in order to get on and at least agree the finance for it, but precisely how that is done is another matter. On the basis of all that, and bearing in mind the time—I am not even sure what words I need on clause stand part.