Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill

I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for raising this point—and I shall not play the buffalo test of looking at somebody and meaning somebody else. In connection with the Prison Service, I find it extremely helpful that references to both management and organisation are included in the clause, because the Prison Service lacks proper management structure and an organisational structure that goes with it. For example, if a young person died in custody in a young offender establishment, it would be the management of the establishment that came under scrutiny first of all, and then the management of the Prison Service as a whole. But you would expect that in the management of the Prison Service as a whole there would be someone who was responsible for all young offenders. Therefore, it could be said that the organisation of the Prison Service was wrong in not having a management structure that enabled that proper chain to be established. So, in the case of that service, I feel happy with the wording, although I am not a lawyer.