Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill

The noble Lord has been so active on previous amendments, it is hardly surprising that he made that slip. I thank the noble Baroness for her careful response to the concerns raised on all these issues. I particularly welcome what she said about the pilots and look forward to learning more about that, and what she said about the improved data gathering as regards detention of families. That seems to me an important step forward. I believe that we shall discuss the adequacy of the means of communicating with these families under Section 9, and whether that is sufficiently effective as regards language and so on. I wish to detain the Committee for as short a time as possible at this point. There is a mechanism to ensure that at the end of the process these families are removed and return to their home countries. There is the option of detaining these families and removing them forcefully. To my mind that is kinder than putting them in the invidious situation of having to choose whether to go underground. I am afraid that my perception and understanding of this matter differ very much from that of the Minister, but perhaps we can agree to disagree on this point. The important thing is what the evaluation of the pilots says, but to my mind—