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Health and Care Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 16 March 2022, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Kamall, Earl Howe and Baroness Penn. The answering members were Baroness Thornton, Baroness Wheeler and Baroness Merron.
Lords report stage fourth day. Amendment 158 agreed to on division (213 to 154). Amendments 159 to 161 agreed to. Amendment 162 agreed to on division (203 to 159). Amendment 170 disagreed to on division (145 to 179). (Part 1 of 2).

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Session

2021-22

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Report stage

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House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Crisp | 820 c287 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Crisp

158: After Clause 164, insert the following new Clause—

“To...

Lord Crisp | 820 cc287-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 158 and note that the other three amendments in this group are...


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Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 820 cc289-290 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 158 and the others in this group, to which I have added my name. La...

Lord Young of Cookham | 820 cc290-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lords Lord Crisp and Lord Faulkner in support of t...

Lord Rennard | 820 cc291-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of these amendments, to which I have added my name, and which are in...

Lord Naseby | 820 cc292-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hasten to say to your Lordships that I do not smoke and have never smoked. In conside...

Baroness Northover | 820 c294 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I support these amendments; my name was on an amendment at an earlier stage. I...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 820 c294 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make just a small factual supplement to the contribution from the noble Lord,...

Lord Lansley | 820 c295 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not intending to intervene, but I was prompted to do so not least by the noble Lo...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 820 c295 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not intending to speak, but I wanted to counter the point made to the noble Lord,...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 820 c295 (Link to this contribution)

Well, good. I have got a few “hear, hears”.

Lord Rennard | 820 c295 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Baroness accept that a crucial difference is that organisations such as ASH are fu...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 820 c296 (Link to this contribution)

I was coming on to that point. I would really appreciate a dose of honesty in this House. If thos...

Baroness Walmsley | 820 c296 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not recall anybody suggesting in the debate that tobacco companies should be made ...

Lord Naseby | 820 c296 (Link to this contribution)

I was suggesting that we do carry on because the evidence is there in government data, not in a f...

Baroness Penn | 820 c296 (Link to this contribution)

I remind noble Lords that only short questions of elucidation are allowed on Report.

Baroness Walmsley | 820 cc296-7 (Link to this contribution)

Many thanks. I suggest to the noble Lord, Lord Naseby, that a lot more people will be dead from t...

Baroness Merron | 820 c297 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for their contributions to this debate and for putting for...

Earl Howe | 820 cc297-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate and in the informative ...

Lord Crisp | 820 cc298-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank those noble Lords who added their names to this amendment and spoke so e...

Lord Crisp | 820 cc299-304 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Crisp

159: After Clause 164, insert the following new Clause—

“To...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc304-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

162: After Clause 164, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc305-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this was debated two weeks ago, but I know that the noble Earl, Lord Howe, wishes to sa...

Earl Howe | 820 c306 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for allowing me to say in a few senten...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 c306 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the House. It is time for the House to make a decision. I am very gra...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 820 c307 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff

163: After Clause 164, insert the following new ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 820 cc310-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to an amendment on alcohol, and I declare that I chair the Commission on Al...

Lord Shipley | 820 c311 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment, the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of Llandaff, has emphasised i...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 820 cc311-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what has already been said and the amendment in the name of the noble Barones...

Lord Bethell | 820 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay. I declare m...

Lord Vinson | 820 c313 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a sheer impracticality to this suggestion. Whatever the need to get people to ...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 820 c313 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel I have to respond immediately to that. I intended to speak anyway, having attach...

Baroness Walmsley | 820 c313 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the risk of being boring, I am one of those people who has been asking for this for ...

Baroness Merron | 820 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, for bringing forward Amendment 163, and thank ...

Lord Winston | 820 c314 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a doctor and a wine drinker, I have serious concerns about this amendment, particula...

Earl Howe | 820 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important topic, so let me start with an immediate reassurance to the House,...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 820 c315 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to everyone who has spoken and I note the tone with which “in due co...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc315-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

164: After Clause 164, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc316-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking to my Amendment 164 but I also strongly associate myself with Amendment 1...

Baroness Cumberlege | 820 cc317-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my amendment is grouped with the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, wh...

Lord Geddes | 820 c318 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite the noble Baroness ...

Baroness Brinton | 820 cc318-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak from these Benches to support both amendments in this group. The noble Lord, Lo...

Baroness Wheeler | 820 c319 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend has returned with his amendment on the need for an expert-led review on...

Earl Howe | 820 cc319-321 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will turn first, if I may, to the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 c321 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, and ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc321-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

165: After Clause 164, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc322-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 165 requires the Secretary of State to

“promote self care for minor ail...

Lord Clement-Jones | 820 cc323-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support Amendment 165, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and ...

Baroness Wheeler | 820 c324 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had a good debate in Committee on the issue of self-care and the management of healt...

Baroness Penn | 820 cc324-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for bringing forward a debate on this issue. I reass...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and my noble friend Lady Wheeler for their s...

Lord Moylan | 820 c326 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

166: After Clause 164, insert the following new Clause—

“G...

Lord Moylan | 820 cc326-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, pancreatic cancer is a terrible disease, as noble Lords know: 10,500 people in the UK a...

Lord Aberdare | 820 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to speak in support of Amendments 166 and 167 in the name of the noble Lor...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 820 c328 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was glad to have been able to put my name to Amendment 166 about PERT. In this Bill, ...

Baroness Walmsley | 820 cc328-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have in my hands the latest cancer waiting time figures. It is very unfortunate that,...

Baroness Thornton | 820 c329 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I say how much I support this suite of amendments? I congratulate the noble Lord, L...

Lord Kamall | 820 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for bringing forward this further debate on the subject of pancreatic cancer ...

Lord Moylan | 820 c330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords who have spoken, particularly the noble Lord, Lord Ab...

Baroness Henig | 820 c330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I inform the House that the noble Baronesses, Lady Masham of Ilton and Lady Brinton, an...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 820 c330 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean

170: After Clause 164, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 820 cc330-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are on Report and I know that a number of colleagues have engagements and want to se...

Baroness Henig | 820 c332 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Masham, is taking part remotely. I invite her to speak.

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 820 c332 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many people are fearful and dismayed about the disastrous, inhuman situation in Ukraine...

Baroness Henig | 820 c333 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite the noble Baroness ...

Baroness Brinton | 820 c333 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, has introduced his amendment very clearly, so I will be b...

Baroness Henig | 820 c333 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Newport, is taking part remotely. I invite the noble Lo...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 820 cc333-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this proposed new clause, superficially so bland, the noble Lord, Lord Forsyt...

Baroness Meacher | 820 cc334-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 170 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, to which I have ad...

Lord Cormack | 820 c335 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose this amendment. Much as I admire my noble friend Lord Forsyth and fully unders...

Lord Lexden | 820 c335 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been informed that the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, would like to ...

Lord Lexden | 820 c336 (Link to this contribution)

Not remotely but present, which is very good indeed.

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 820 c336 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am so thankful to be here tonight. It is a rare appearance but an important one and I...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 820 cc336-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, whose contribution to the debate o...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 820 c337 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it would be perfectly possible for someone in the House of Commons to raise this issue ...

Lord Winston | 820 cc337-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have repeatedly opposed assisted dying and it is well known that I feel, and have fel...

Baroness Mallalieu | 820 c338 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment surely goes to something of importance to all of us in this House, wheth...

Baroness Davidson of Lundin Links | 820 cc338-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Forsyth. I do not do so l...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 820 cc339-340 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel I have to remind the House that we have had 95 hours of debate in recent years o...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 820 c340 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hate to disagree with the noble Lords who have spoken against this amendment, almost ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 cc340-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to put a point to the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. He said that his amendment...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 820 c341 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to prolong the debate but, for the sake of clarity, I will say that the issue here ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 820 c341 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention. However, his amendment says:

“Th...

Bishop of Durham | 820 cc341-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with those who have already spoken opposing the amendment. First, the amendment...

Baroness Noakes | 820 c342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, ordinarily I would not support a novel procedure which overrode the precedence of the w...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 820 c342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in Committee, I asked whether the Minister—I think the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, was res...

Lord Carey of Clifton | 820 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a brief intervention. First, I rise to challenge the view that all bishops ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 820 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, made the accusation that lots of the amendments to the Bi...

Baroness Hayman | 820 c344 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, because it is...

Baroness Greengross | 820 cc344-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to add my support particularly for what my noble friend Lady Hayman has just sai...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 820 cc345-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the second occasion on which I have spoken on assisted dying in your Lordships’...

Baroness Hollins | 820 c347 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not understand why it is a conscience vote if it is not about the substance or the...

Lord Sentamu | 820 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to detain the House long. The noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, told us that this...

Lord Sentamu | 820 c348 (Link to this contribution)

Noble Lords might say that it was a long time ago, but it was debated. It is not as if this has n...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 820 c348 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I detect a sense that the House would like to hear from the Front Benches, but I know t...

Baroness Grey-Thompson | 820 c349 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have spoken numerous times about my opposition to assisted suicide for many different...

Baroness Walmsley | 820 c350 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think the mood of the House is that the Front Benches—

Lord Shinkwin | 820 c350 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I just be indulged by the House in following the excellent speech by my noble frien...

Baroness Walmsley | 820 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson, rightly said, the devil is in the detail. Th...

Baroness Merron | 820 cc351-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened very closely to the many passionate, informed and often personal contri...

Earl Howe | 820 cc352-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must tell my noble friend Lord Forsyth that I am not with him on this amendment and n...

Baroness Meacher | 820 c353 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, does he believe that limiting debate on a crucial human rights iss...

Earl Howe | 820 c353 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we gave a full day’s debate to the noble Baroness’s Bill. That is surely not ungenerous...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 820 cc353-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is late; we have had a very good debate. I have to say, I shall long remember being ...

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