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Health and Care Bill

Debate on bills on Thursday, 3 March 2022, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Kamall, Earl Howe and Baroness Penn. The answering members were Baroness Thornton and Baroness Merron.
Lords report stage second day. Amendment 84 agreed to on division (145 to 122). Amendments 85 to 94, 97, 101 to 104 and 106 to 107 agreed to. Amendment 108 agreed to on division (110 to 91). Amendments 109 to 110 agreed to. Amendment 112 disagreed to on division (80 to 91). (Part 2 of 2).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

819 cc1008-1054 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Health and Care Bill 2021-22. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 9 February 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Health and Care Bill
Thursday, 3 March 2022
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Lansley | 819 c1008 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

83: Clause 39, page 47, line 37, at end insert—

“(4) A di...

Lord Lansley | 819 cc1008-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, noble Lords will recall from Committee some substantial discussion about whether it was...


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Baroness Thornton | 819 cc1009-1010 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, I thought it might be useful if I used my slot to speak right now on...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 819 cc1010-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have no doubt that when the Minister responds he will say that the Secretary of State...

Baroness Walmsley | 819 c1011 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 84 is intended to remove the powers of the Secretary of State, in Clause 40, ...

Lord Kamall | 819 cc1011-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for bringing this debate to the House today. I am sure that the Secretary of ...

Baroness Thornton | 819 c1012 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that this was not the motive behind the power, but motive is not the point here...

Lord Kamall | 819 cc1012-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for clarifying that. Of course, we completely understand the concerns ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 819 c1013 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, but does the Minister not take my point that it is not that Ministers wi...

Baroness Walmsley | 819 c1013 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister answers that question, I wonder if he would be kind enough to answer two from...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1013 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for those interventions. If they will allow me, I will come to answer them in...

Baroness Cumberlege | 819 cc1013-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend. On this clinical advice, he is aware of the enormous changes that were m...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, sometimes it is absolutely critical that decisions are made quickly. Where there are conc...

Baroness Walmsley | 819 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot believe that the Minister meant to imply that all the structures being set up in this Bi...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1014 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness raises some important points, but I remind her that, alongside those, she shou...

Lord Lansley | 819 cc1014-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend. In particular I am grateful for his specific assuranc...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 819 c1015 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord raises the congenital paediatric cardiac case, and the noble Baroness, Lady Cumber...

Lord Lansley | 819 c1015 (Link to this contribution)

We all know that when these proposals come forward, there is a lot of local pressure. In many cas...

Baroness Penn | 819 c1016 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might be worth reminding noble Lords that on Report, noble Lords only speak twice fo...

Lord Lansley | 819 c1016 (Link to this contribution)

I am responding to the debate, am I not?

Lord Lansley | 819 c1016 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord was elucidating something to which I was responding. That is my view. Anyway, I wa...

Lord Kamall | 819 cc1016-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

85: Clause 45, page 50, line 6, leave out “The reference in subs...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1019 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

88: Clause 54, page 53, line 16, at end insert “in respect of a ...

Lord Kamall | 819 cc1019-1020 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

92: Clause 59, page 55, line 37, leave out “The reference in sub...

Lord Kamall | 819 cc1020-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

97: Clause 67, page 61, line 42, at end insert—

“(2AA) For...

Lord Lansley | 819 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

98: Schedule 10, page 223, line 21, at end insert—

“(5A) ...

Lord Lansley | 819 cc1021-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not go on at great length because noble Lords have heard more than sufficient fr...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 819 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is contributing remotely.

Baroness Brinton | 819 cc1022-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by commending Amendment 100 tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and I look f...

Lord Hendy | 819 cc1024-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 98A, 98B and 98C. Among other things, the Bill is designed to faci...

Lord Warner | 819 cc1025-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 100 requires NHS England to

“conduct a public survey of whether pati...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 819 c1026 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am implacably opposed to privatisation of the NHS—not for ideological reasons, althou...

Baroness Thornton | 819 cc1026-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group contains a number of helpful amendments. I welcome the amendments that the G...

Earl Howe | 819 cc1027-1030 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before addressing the amendments in the name of my noble friend Lord Lansley and the no...

Lord Lansley | 819 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend, in particular for the helpful explanation of the...

Lord Warner | 819 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Warner

100: Clause 69, page 63, line 21, at end insert—

“6H Surv...

Lord Warner | 819 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his reassurances on the issue of patient choice. I suggest that...

Earl Howe | 819 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

101: Clause 70, page 63, line 35, leave out “procurement by releva...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 819 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

I shall not call Amendment 105, as it has been pre-empted by Amendment 103.

Earl Howe | 819 cc1031-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

106: Clause 70, page 64, leave out lines 7 and 8 and insert—

Earl Howe | 819 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

107: Clause 71, page 64, line 31, at end insert—

“(b) in sec...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 819 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Alton of Liverpool

108: After Clause 71, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 819 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

I should note, for the convenience of the House, that the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, will be t...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 819 cc1032-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we move to Amendment 108, I should declare my interests as set out in the register: ...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 819 c1036 (Link to this contribution)

I now call the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton.

Baroness Brinton | 819 cc1036-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to hear that the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, is unwell, and I thank the nob...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 819 c1037 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak very briefly, because I am conscious of the time and that we have a lot of business...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 819 cc1037-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great honour for my two amendments to be grouped with that in the names of the ...

Baroness Northover | 819 cc1038-9 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Hunt, has very effectively introduced the amendments to which I have put my ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 819 cc1039-1040 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all the amendments in this group, and I shall speak specifically and briefly ...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 819 c1040 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 108, while supporting the other two amendments introduced so ...

Lord Moylan | 819 cc1040-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly only to Amendment 108, which I understand the Government are likel...

Baroness Walmsley | 819 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, China has been found out. Thanks to surveillance and other types of technology, and cou...

Lord Eatwell | 819 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to give my strong support to Amendment 108, and I do so because of the terms of ...

Baroness Merron | 819 cc1041-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is impossible to turn away from the connection between procurement of products and s...

Earl Howe | 819 cc1042-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group bring us to three discrete topics which are nevertheless l...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 819 c1046 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Earl sits down, may I apologise to the House? I should have declared that I am t...

Earl Howe | 819 c1046 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is a perfectly valid question from the noble Baroness, and I would be happy to tak...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 819 cc1046-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know that this is a complex and long Bill, and that the House will want to move quite...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1047 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

109: After Clause 77, insert the following new Clause—

“Me...

Lord Kamall | 819 c1047 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

110: Clause 79, page 69, line 42, at end insert “and the “and” b...

Lord Warner | 819 cc1047-1050 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Warner )

112: After Clause 80, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Warner | 819 cc1051-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 112 is my name and the names of the noble Lords, Lord Hunt, Lord Scriven and ...

Lord Kakkar | 819 c1052 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of your Lordships’ ad hoc Select Committee on the Lon...

Baroness Merron | 819 c1052 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, five years have passed since the ad hoc Select Committee on the Long-term Sustainabilit...

Baroness Penn | 819 c1053 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for bringing this debate before the House today. As mentioned in th...

Lord Warner | 819 c1053 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no chance. I wish to test the opinion of the House.

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