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Building Safety Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 73 to 115 agreed to. Clause 116 agreed to as amended. Schedule 8 agreed to. Government new clauses agreed to. Clauses 117 to 119 agreed to. Clause 120 agreed to as amended. Clause 121 agreed to. Government new schedule agreed to. Schedule 9 agreed to as amended. Schedule 10 agreed to. Clauses 122 to 124 agreed to as amended. Clause 125 agreed to. Clause 126 agreed to as amended. Clauses 127 and 128 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

819 cc197-286GC 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Building Safety Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 20 January 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Building Safety Bill; Judicial Review and Courts Bill; Office for Demographic Change Bill. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twentieth report.
Wednesday, 9 February 2022
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2022-0241
Thursday, 10 March 2022
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2022-0243
Thursday, 10 March 2022
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 819 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, welcome to the Grand Committee on the Building Safety Bill. I remind Members that they ...

Lord Best | 819 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Best

45: After Clause 72, insert the following new Clause—

“Appoi...


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Lord Best | 819 cc198-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group should not detain us too long, for three reasons. First, the group has only ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 c199GC (Link to this contribution)

I support the noble Lord in his Amendment 45. He has described the issue very well—and given his ...

Baroness Pinnock | 819 cc199-200GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is such an eminently sensible amendment, in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Best...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 819 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to speak to Amendment 45, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Best, and ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 819 cc200-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I will answer the noble Lord, Lord Khan. He brings up an important issue and I h...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 c201GC (Link to this contribution)

A meeting would certainly be helpful. We also need to see this famous guidance. We know from othe...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 819 c202GC (Link to this contribution)

We absolutely understand the issue We are working on it. As I said, if we have a meeting, maybe w...

Lord Best | 819 c202GC (Link to this contribution)

Those final comments were the ones that I hoped to hear: that, with a bit of discussion, we may b...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 819 cc202-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this series of stand part amendments relates to Clauses 80 to 84 and would delete the b...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 819 c203GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think we are all reassembled. We were listening to the noble Baroness, Lady Fox of Bu...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 819 cc203-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I know that noble Lords have been waiting with bated breath.

The key question is why buildi...

Lord Thurlow | 819 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

I support the very interesting comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Fox—most interestingly, it is...

Baroness Pinnock | 819 cc205-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, for raising this issue about the ne...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 cc206-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the noble Lord, Lord Khan of Burnley, will not mind if I ask for clarification on a r...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 819 c207GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to say how much we agree with what the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, said about the ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 819 cc207-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by going back to where the Bill came from, the tragedy of Grenfell Tower. The p...

Baroness Pinnock | 819 cc209-210GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for responding. I wonder whether she could explain something. I am still con...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 819 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I should combine my question so that the Minister will not have to stand up twice. Saying...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 819 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

I find it quite simple really, but then I am a simple person. The accountable officer is the acco...

Lord Blencathra | 819 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Blencathra

46: Clause 93, page 102, line 8, at end insert “after consul...

Lord Blencathra | 819 cc211-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a leaseholder in a block of flats near here that has some reme...

Bishop of St Albans | 819 cc213-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 50A in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Blencath...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 819 cc215-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 52A to 52C, 54A, 54B, 55B and 55C, which relate to Clauses ...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc218-220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can see that my noble friend is about to rise, but there is a crescendo in this group...

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 cc220-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the instructions on the sheet of paper in front of me are not “crescendo” but “diminuen...

Earl of Lytton | 819 cc221-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will try to be brief here. This is an extremely valuable group of amendments, and I e...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 cc222-4GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Earl, Lord Lytton, is a great expert on landlord/tenant matters. I agree with him that ...

Baroness Pinnock | 819 cc224-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group covers three big issues—residents’ engagement strategy, access to properties...

Lord Stunell | 819 cc225-230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to contribute to this debate. We certainly have many important issues boun...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord think this construction product schedule includes such things as wood? The th...

Lord Stunell | 819 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is certainly right that there are materials that have been used in one way, sa...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 819 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to a number of amendments in this group. It has been a fascinating and exh...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 819 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Sometimes they are wise men and women. I hope that the Minister can take forward their wise sugge...

Lord Thurlow | 819 cc232-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister stands up, perhaps I can make two points. This is a large group of quite dive...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c233GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to say how amazed I am by how young the noble Lord, Lord Khan, is. I thought I w...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc233-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My maths is not that bad, but that is impressive.

I will start with the noble Lord, Lord St...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc239-241GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was caught mid-sentence so I will go back to the beginning of that particular sentenc...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

Are the Government planning to produce an impact assessment on the new measures? My amendment was...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; with the sheer length of the debate, we are now approaching the two-hour mark, so I h...

Lord Blencathra | 819 cc241-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have spent two hours on this group of amendments. It is probably the second-most imp...

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Cookham

56: Schedule 8, page 197, line 7, at end insert—

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise that the government amendments in this group may be of greater significance...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc243-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to introduce the government amendments in this group. This is an important group...

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 cc245-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend. It was bit like listening to one of the advertisement...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 819 c246GC (Link to this contribution)

There is a Division in the House. We will have up to 10 minutes to cast our votes but, if noble L...

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 cc246-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I was explaining to the Committee that an existing service charge has a line headed “Health and s...

Lord Naseby | 819 cc248-250GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 65, which would modify the major statement in government ...

Lord Blencathra | 819 cc249-251GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 59 is concerned with the first two lines of paragraph 5 of Schedule 8, whi...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 819 cc251-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with some trepidation after that, I rise to speak to my Amendment 94ZA, as advertised b...

Baroness Pinnock | 819 cc252-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendments 93 and 94. I thank the Minister for explaining the many a...

Earl of Lytton | 819 cc254-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will try to be brief. I will just pick up on the last point made by the noble Barones...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 819 c255GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, some very good questions have been asked in this debate. I am grateful to the Minister ...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 819 cc255-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two amendments in this group. Before I introduce them and talk about the things ...

Lord Stunell | 819 cc259-261GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I am very sorry if taking a long time last time irritated the Minister. It was a...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc261-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate, it really has. I shall start with the noble Lord, L...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc263-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Therefore, the scope of “relevant defect” is sufficiently broad and will take account of many of ...

Earl of Lytton | 819 c267GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister answered a query I raised in connection with Amendment 72; I apologise for jumping a...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c267GC (Link to this contribution)

Oh, I see. You said commercial developers?

Earl of Lytton | 819 c267GC (Link to this contribution)

I said commercial developers, but I meant to say “developers of commercial property”. However, I ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 cc267-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the Committee enters its sixth hour of sitting, this is not the time for a comprehen...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

We can sort it out. I am told by my lawyer that you are wrong.

Lord Young of Cookham | 819 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

If I am wrong, the Bill may be wrong, because I have just read out what is in it, but I think thi...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

61: Clause 116, page 123, line 39, leave out subsection (2)<...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc269-270GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

62: Before Clause 117, insert the following new Clause—

<...
Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc270-1GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

64: Before Clause 117, insert the following new Clause—

<...
Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c271GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greenhalgh

66: Before Clause 117, insert the following new Clause—

<...
Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc272-8GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

67: Before Clause 117, insert the following new Clause—

<...
Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 819 c279GC (Link to this contribution)

The question is that Amendments 79 to 81 be agreed to.

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c279GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry. Those amendments are not government amendments. Will they go in Hansard?

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 819 c279GC (Link to this contribution)

Do not worry. They will not because Hansard will cover your back and my back. I have been told th...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c279GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

90: Clause 120, page 129, line 4, at end insert—

“(c) ...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc279-283GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greenhalgh

92: Before Schedule 9, insert the following new Schedule—

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

95: Schedule 9, page 211, line 38, leave out “and the Scotti...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

97: Clause 122, page 130, line 4, after “Scotland” insert “o...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

98: Clause 122, page 130, line 23, at end insert—

“(c)...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

101: Clause 123, page 131, line 8, leave out from “exercisab...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 c285GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

103: Clause 124, page 132, line 8, at end insert—

“(c)...

Lord Greenhalgh | 819 cc285-6GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Greenhalgh

105: Clause 126, page 133, line 5, leave out “and the Scotti...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 819 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

I cannot call Amendment 107A, as it is an amendment to Amendment 107.

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