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Health and Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 20 January 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 16 to 19 agreed to. Schedule 3 agreed to. Clause 20 under consideration.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

817 cc1782-1414 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lord Black of Brentwood | 817 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Black of Brentwood (Con)

50: Clause 16, page 14, line 4, at end insert—...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 817 cc1782-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 50 is supported by the noble Lords, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath and Lord Rennard...


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Earl of Kinnoull | 817 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Masham of Ilton, is taking part remotely. I invite her to spea...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 817 cc1783-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to Amendment 50 and will speak also to Amendment 57. I am a member o...

Lord Farmer | 817 cc1785-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 57, which the noble Baroness, Lady Masham, has mentioned, is also supporte...

Baroness Hollins | 817 cc1788-1790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Farmer. I really appreciate his remarks...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 817 cc1790-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, who speaks with such knowledge and authori...

Baroness Barker | 817 cc1791-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 297J in this group, but I will preface my remarks by retur...

Lord Layard | 817 cc1793-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 101B, in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Watkins, and the noble...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 817 cc1794-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to this group of amendments with an emphasis on Amendment 101B, in the ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 cc1796-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 50 tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Black, but I want t...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 817 cc1797-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a really interesting debate and it made me think of Aneurin Bevan’s origi...

Baroness Whitaker | 817 cc1798-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following the impressive, high-calibre tour d’horizon from the noble Baroness, Lady Fin...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 817 c1799 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise for arriving a little late for this debate. I hope that your Lordshi...

Lord Rennard | 817 c1800 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I draw the Committee’s attention to my registered interests in healthcare equipment. I ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 817 cc1800-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is clear from the number of noble Lords wishing to speak in this debate that this gr...

Lord Warner | 817 c1801 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, La...

Lord Scriven | 817 cc1801-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 85 and 88 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins.

W...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 817 cc59-1805 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 101B in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Layard. Before I speak to ...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 cc1805-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an extremely rich and informative debate on a diverse set of amendments. ...

Baroness Walmsley | 817 cc1806-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an enormously important debate because it deals with my favourite word in healt...

Baroness Thornton | 817 cc1808-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an assortment of amendments that are all linked to the core of the Bill, which ...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc1809-1812 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate, covering issues around prevention, as the noble Bar...

Baroness Thornton | 817 c1812 (Link to this contribution)

I hesitate to take the words of the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, away from her, but she is talki...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc62-3 (Link to this contribution)

I was just about to come to duty, so I thank the noble Baroness for hurrying me along.

2.30...

Lord Scriven | 817 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that the Minister really understands. Yes, there may be a duty on local authoritie...

Lord Kamall | 817 c64 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill complements these existing duties by placing an equivalent duty on ICBs to integrate the...

Lord Scriven | 817 cc1813-65 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry and will not delay the House much longer, but this is a really important point: the he...

Lord Kamall | 817 c65 (Link to this contribution)

One of the reasons for the introduction of integrated care boards and integrated care partnership...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 cc65-6 (Link to this contribution)

The architecture is very curious regarding why we must have an integrated care board and integrat...

Lord Warner | 817 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds to that, can I amplify what is being refused here by the Government?...

Baroness Walmsley | 817 c1814 (Link to this contribution)

I am so sorry to delay the Minister again, but briefly. After we have pushed this Bill through Pa...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc68-9 (Link to this contribution)

These are all building blocks. I thought that might get a laugh.

In response to the noble L...

Baroness Hollins | 817 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I love this debate—it is brilliant—but it makes the point that this is an ideal opportunity to pr...

Baroness Barker | 817 c69 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel for the Minister in his position. He is right: people observing our proceedings ...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc1815-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her sympathy for my role. Debates like this are important. They gi...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 817 cc1817-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, even by the standards of your Lordships’ House, this has been an exceptional debate. Th...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 817 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

54: Clause 16, page 14, line 47, at end inser...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 817 cc72-1820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak particularly to Amendments 54, 74 and 97 in this group. I warmly thank the...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 817 c1820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite her to speak now.

Baroness Brinton | 817 cc1820-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak in support of Amendments 54, 74 and 97, tabled by the noble Baroness, L...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 817 cc1822-3 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Patel has had to leave because of pre-booked travel, but he has given me the...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 cc1823-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the three amendments that the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of ...

Baroness Fraser of Craigmaddie | 817 cc1824-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 163 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, to which I was ...

Lord Warner | 817 cc1825-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all the amendments in this group, particularly Amendment 74, to which I have ...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 817 cc1826-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak but, animated by the contributions of colleagues who, like ...

Lord Lansley | 817 cc1827-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to intervene at not too much length. I welcome these amendments and am grateful ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 c1828 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on that basis, I have seen it said elsewhere that NICE has referred to its “national st...

Lord Lansley | 817 cc1828-9 (Link to this contribution)

Given NICE’s remit, it might be the Welsh Government as well, but the noble Lord may well be corr...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 817 cc1829-1830 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord asked me a question to which I feel obliged to try to respond, but I really want t...

Lord Lansley | 817 c1830 (Link to this contribution)

I can see that my noble friend is eager to come in but I will conclude by answering the noble Bar...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 817 c1830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments, subject to the economic difficulties. As I listened to the ...

Baroness Merron | 817 cc81-1832 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome these amendments, which relate to the National Institute for Clinical Excelle...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc1832-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, both to the amendments and in making wide...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 c1834 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Minister is right about how this system is meant to work, but there are far too man...

Lord Kamall | 817 c85 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for raising this issue. ...

Lord Warner | 817 c86 (Link to this contribution)

When the Minister is looking into that, will he also look at the issue of the usual suspects? The...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc86-1835 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may suggest, following the interventions of both noble Lords and their experience of be...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 817 cc1835-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all who have contributed to this debate and for the number of issues t...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 817 c90 (Link to this contribution)

I call the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, to move Amendment 56A—or the noble Baroness, Lady Hol...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 817 cc91-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I might put in a slight plea to the Committee on behalf of the noble Lord, Lord...

Lord Low of Dalston | 817 c92 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

56A: Schedule 3, page 151, line 16, at end insert—

Lord Low of Dalston | 817 cc92-1839 (Link to this contribution)

Right on cue, my Lords, I am rising to move Amendment 56A, which seeks to improve eye care for pe...

Lord Crisp | 817 cc1839-1841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 112 and 17 others that are in my name. I am very grateful to...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 cc94-1843 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendments 117 and 218 in this group. I have also put my name to the series of a...

Baroness Uddin | 817 cc1843-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to rise. I had not originally intended to participate in this debate, but I ...

Lord Scriven | 817 cc1844-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have attached my name to a whole raft of amendments in the name of the noble Lords, L...

Lord Warner | 817 cc1845-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in support of Amendment 218, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, to ...

Baroness Hollins | 817 cc1846-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some brief points to add in support of my noble friend Lord Low’s Amendment 56A,...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 cc1847-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the wake of such a hugely powerful group of contributions, mine is very much a suppo...

Baroness Cumberlege | 817 cc1848-9 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to say a few words and will start by complimenting the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, on al...

Baroness Walmsley | 817 c1849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, and I am delighte...

Baroness Thornton | 817 cc1849-1850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in many ways we are drifting back to 1946, when the NHS started on three legs: hospital...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc1850-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who spoke in this debate for once again increasing my understanding of so...

Lord Crisp | 817 c1852 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment in my name specifically requires ICBs

“to work with the four primary care ser...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc1852-102 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that clarification and also for the advice he has given me in my first...

Lord Warner | 817 cc102-1853 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened very carefully to what the Minister is saying in response to these amendments but...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 817 c1853 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has said that the Bill came because this is what the NHS wanted. But we ...

Lord Lansley | 817 cc1853-104 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to that, may I say that when I was shadow Secretary of State for several ye...

Lord Kamall | 817 c104 (Link to this contribution)

Anyone else want to come in? Look, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions and friendly a...

Baroness Cumberlege | 817 c1854 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I quickly intervene? Of course, it is absolutely right that one should learn from h...

Lord Kamall | 817 cc106-1855 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend; I was not aware of that. But at the end of the day, the result has to be...

Lord Low of Dalston | 817 c1855 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister very much for his response and all other noble Lords who have part...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 817 cc110-1 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the next amendment, I remind your Lordships that the noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Ne...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 817 c111 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Howarth of Newport

59: Clause 20, page 16, line 20, at end insert—

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Lord Howarth of Newport | 817 cc1856-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this suite of amendments to Clause 20, which lays down duties on integrated care boa...

Baroness Barker | 817 cc1858-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to speak in support of the noble Lord, Lord Howarth. When I read these...

Baroness Greengross | 817 cc1859-1860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am in favour of the amendments in this group in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Howa...

Lord Best | 817 cc1860-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Newport, for his inspiring speech. I declare an...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 817 cc1862-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also wish to support the amendments that have been moved by the noble Lord, Lord Howa...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 817 cc1864-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support this suite of amendments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Crisp | 817 cc1865-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, on introducing this very important group o...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 817 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support this group of amendments. I would like to make sure that we realise ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 817 cc1866-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what I want to say follows on very well from what the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, said...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 cc1867-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join pretty much everyone else in commending the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, for tablin...

Baroness Walmsley | 817 cc1868-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been an excellent debate. We have heard about all the various kinds of arts and ...

Baroness Thornton | 817 c129 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted that my noble friend Lord Howarth has brought this suite of amendments i...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 817 cc129-1872 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I respond on this group, I want to apologise for the chaos that I caused at the ...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c1870 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down, I would just like to go back to some of the earlier amendmen...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 817 cc1-21 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I think it is, actually. We all realise how important it is. Social prescribing is a key co...

Baroness Barker | 817 c22 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Newport, is taking part remotely. I invite him to speak.

Lord Howarth of Newport | 817 cc35-1876 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the considerable number of noble Lords who have taken part i...

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