Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill
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Wednesday, 4 November 2020
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Proceeding contributions
We proceed to the group beginning with Amendment 22. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...
Moved by
Baroness Chakrabarti
22: Clause 1, page 2, leave out lines 27 to 30 and inse...
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My Lords, it is a pleasure to introduce my noble friend Lord Hendy’s Amendment 22. He is detained...
My Lords, it is clear that there is a lot of unease—I choose a mild term—around the House about t...
My Lords, the amendments in this group pose the important question of when and why the Government...
My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 25, I shall put the views expressed by the Joint Committee on ...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hain, whose name appears next on the list, has withdrawn, and the ...
My Lords, it is a real pleasure to take part in this debate. I am sorry that my noble friend Lord...
My Lords, the dividing line between a police state and a democratic society with a liberal, human...
The noble Baroness, Lady Blower, who appears next on the list, has withdrawn, so I call the noble...
My Lords, unlike, I think, every other speaker to these amendments so far, I do not support them....
My Lords, I accept that it is difficult to separate these issues, but I will leave discussion of ...
My Lords, Amendment 22, moved by my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti with the support of my noble fr...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate and pay tribute to anyone wh...
I have received a request to speak from the noble Lord, Lord Paddick.
My Lords, I am grateful for what the Minister has said and appreciate that she has to stick to he...
The noble Lord, with whom I am actually good friends, makes a valid point: what is the point in m...
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for the care with which they have approached this grou...
We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 27. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
27: Clause 1, page 2, line 30, at end insert “so far as thos...
My Lords, we have covered a good deal of the ground of Amendment 27 in the previous debate. I wil...
My Lords, my name is down to speak on this group of amendments by mistake, but I will take the op...
My Lords, that was a happy accident for the Committee—not that I would ever describe intervention...
My Lords, Amendment 27 seeks to qualify the use of the concept of economic well-being as a ground...
My Lords, Amendment 27 is tabled in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, and the noble Baro...
I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I will start with the comments of the...
My Lords, I have received no requests to speak after the Minister, so I call the noble Baroness, ...
My Lords, I am grateful to those noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. My noble friend...
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 28. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...
Moved by
Lord Kennedy of Southwark
28: Clause 1, page 2, line 30, at end insert—
<...My Lords, Amendment 28 in my name and that of my noble friends Lord Rosser and Lady Clark of Kilw...
Moved by
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning
29: Clause 1, after “trade unions” insert “or l...
My Lords, I shall speak in favour of Amendment 28, to which I have added my name. It seeks to out...
My Lords, I start by making it absolutely clear that I do not blame the Minister or those who hav...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, gave a very graceful explanation of his previous interven...
My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of a trade union ever since my undergraduate days in ...
My Lords, I support Amendment 56A in particular. In the earlier debate on the issue of prior judi...
My Lords, I agree with everything that has been said in this group so far. Of course, it comes at...
My Lords, I wish to speak briefly to Amendment 28, which I support. I was surprised at the breadt...
My Lords, if the noble and learned Lord was referring at the beginning of his contribution to the...
I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on this group of amendments. I start with the point made ...
My Lords, I have received one request to speak after the Minister, from the noble Lord, Lord Padd...
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I have just one question. She said that the scenario I s...
The noble Lord will appreciate that not every Bill contains every minute detail of issues such as...
I am happy to withdraw Amendment 29.
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate, in which we have discus...
We now come to the group of amendments beginning with Amendment 34. I remind noble Lords that any...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
34: Clause 1, page 2, line 36, leave out “(for example, the ...
My Lords, we have both Amendments 34 and 36 in this group, the latter being the substantive amend...
My Lords, I do not dissent from what the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said, but I shall concentra...
It is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, whose amendment I have signed. It is a v...
My Lords, I shall speak warmly in support of the amendment by the noble Lord, Lord Cormack. It is...
My Lords, I have Amendment 45 in this group, which is slipstreaming along behind Amendment 44 tab...
My Lords, Amendment 55 in my name is in this group. The amendment seeks to place on the face of t...
My Lords, these amendments have at their heart the question of whether there should be a list of ...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 56 on behalf of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, of whic...
The next speaker on the list, the Lord Bishop of Carlisle, has, sadly, withdrawn, so I call the n...
My Lords, I was originally not going to be present for this debate, and I left the main thrust of...
My Lords, like my noble friend Lord Dubs, I can be short in the light of some outstanding contrib...
My Lords, I shall speak briefly as my noble friend Lord Anderson of Ipswich has almost precisely ...
There are a number of amendments in this group relating to human rights. They variously provide t...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their very thoughtful contributions to a discussion of the uppe...
My Lords, I will pick up a number of points, if I may. First, the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, raise...
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 39. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...
Moved by
Lord Dubs
39: Clause 1, page 2, leave out lines 45 to 47 and insert—
“...
My Lords, so far we have been debating the nature of the criminal offences that may or may not be...
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to speak in this debate. My concern is about authorising corpora...
I can be brief. My noble friends pose two very important questions that become even more unnervin...
[Inaudible]—the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti. I am less concerned than I think she is by the ...
My Lords, I share the concerns of the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of Ipswich, about seeking clarity...
My Lords, Amendment 39 in the names of my noble friends Lady Massey of Darwen and Lord Dubs remov...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this debate.
Amendment 39 seeks clarificat...
I have received a request to speak after the Minister, and hand signals suggest it may be the nob...
I thank the Minister for her explanation. I am not sure I explained myself well enough to her in ...
I say again that each situation will be different, but I understand the noble Lord’s point that i...
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who contributed to the debate. I have to lead with wha...
My Lords, we come now to the group consisting of Amendment 41. I remind noble Lords that anyone w...
Moved by
Baroness Chakrabarti
41: Clause 1, page 3, line 2, at end insert “; and
<...My Lords, this amendment is very simple but, none the less, incredibly important to reassure some...
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Warsi, is not participating in this debate, so I call the next...
My Lords, I too signed the amendment, which the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, has very adequa...
My Lords, my contribution on this amendment will be fairly short. I hear the point that my noble ...
I thank noble Lords. I hope to reassure the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, and the noble Lord,...
I apologise: I perhaps have not made myself clear enough. It is late and we have all been at this...
Will the noble Baroness give way?
My Lords, I am afraid that that is not within the rules at present. I apologise to the Minister b...
I apologise. It is hard to see the Minister’s face or responses from this angle on Zoom. Briefly,...
Would the Minister care to respond to the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti?
I apologise for intervening at an inappropriate moment. I was trying to clarify whether the noble...
Forgive me, but in the scenario that I have just painted there is no entrapment because nobody is...
I think that we are coming to the end of this debate, but entrapment in and of itself would have ...
My Lords, we can disagree on that, but perhaps before Report the Minister and her colleagues migh...
We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 43. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...
Moved by
Lord Young of Cookham
43: Clause 1, page 3, line 2, at end insert—
“( ...
My Lords, along with the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, the right reverend Prelate the Bishop ...
My Lords, it is an absolute privilege to follow the noble Lord, Lord Young of Cookham, to associa...
The noble Lord, Lord Young, is very persuasive, and he is right. My noble friends Lord Paddick an...
My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 43, in the names of my right reverend friend the Bishop...
My Lords, I rise principally to support Amendment 43, to which I have added my name, but I fully ...
My Lords, I speak to Amendment 48 tabled in my name and support all those who have spoken in favo...
My Lords, I agree with so many of the remarks made today by noble Lords following the powerful an...
My Lords, when I originally looked at this Bill and thought about it in relation to children, I f...
My Lords, I wish to speak in favour of Amendment 52. I too support the comments made about childr...
I call the next speaker, the noble Lord, Lord Judd.
We will go to the noble Baroness, Lady ...
My Lords, this is an issue that I have raised several times in your Lordships’ House: the issue o...
I call the next speaker, the noble Baroness, Lady Young of Hornsey.
My Lords, I am going to try not to repeat comments made by colleagues already. However, I feel it...
After the noble Lord, Lord Russell of Liverpool, I will call the noble Lord, Lord Judd.
My Lords, this is a fascinating if somewhat one-sided debate. I will suggest in a minute why I th...
My Lords, I thank unreservedly the noble Lord, Lord Young of Cookham, for the way in which he int...
My Lords, the Committee will not welcome me trying to summarise what has been said, and I could n...
My Lords, this is one of those debates where you can stand up and quite honestly say you agree wi...
My Lords, I start with the words of the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, and absolutely confirm that I f...
I have received requests to speak after the Minister from the noble Lord, Lord Russell of Liverpo...
I thank the Minister for her very full reply. I asked whether the approach of my noble friend Lor...
I will reiterate what I said, which is that I am trying to work out a mechanism for sessions that...
Actually, I have nothing to ask. The noble Baroness answered my point right at the end, after I h...
My Lords, I am very grateful to everyone who has taken part in this debate—not least the Minister...
My Lords, we must finish at 8.45 pm but the next group has only five speakers, so if noble Lords ...
We come now to Amendment 49. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to speak after the Minister...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
49: Clause 1, page 3, line 2, at end insert—
“( ) A crimi...
My Lords, this amendment is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. As we have debate...
I will speak briefly in full-blooded support of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, and an amendment th...
My Lords, I will be brief. I see the point that the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, is making on the ne...
My Lords, I hope to provide the clarity that the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, seeks and persuade the...
I thank the Minister for what she just said and I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, for...