Crime (Overseas Production Orders) Bill [HL]
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2017-19Legislative stage
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Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, at end insert—
“( ) A ju...
My Lords, I am speaking for these well-populated Benches. It would be right to start by saying th...
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I thank the noble Baroness for her introduction and I am very glad that the number of amendments ...
I do not challenge the applicant’s duty to assist the court, but there is no opportunity for chal...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
3: Clause 1, page 1, line 19, at end insert—
“( ) The Sec...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 3 in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I will speak ...
My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has said, we have tabled Amendment 8 and its objective...
Both noble Lords rightly raised the point of the death penalty in relation to any designated inte...
Before the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, gives his answer, as I understand it this matter has been un...
To deal with the first point on the death penalty, I thought I had made it clear but clearly I ha...
It is not only my noble friend Lord Rosser who is confused about the death penalty, as I am confu...
I understand the point that the noble Lord is making. I, not least, look forward to the discussio...
My Lords, I am very grateful for the comments of all noble Lords on this group of amendments. I d...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
5: Clause 1, page 1, line 22, after “arrangement” insert “in...
My Lords, our exchange on the previous group of amendments, when the Minister gave a lot of assur...
My Lords, the noble Baroness has done her usual forensic job of going through the Bill and done a...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, for their points. I tu...
I thank the Minister very much as I have learned something today about participants, which is use...
Put simply, I think the parameters we are discussing are that there might be circumstances in whi...
The noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, may be thinking, as I am, that that begs another question. Clearly,...
I do not usually intervene, but the noble Baroness’s words are worthy of reflection before Report...
Of course, I am grateful for that. I was going to say that we have the delegated powers memorandu...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
9: Clause 2, page 2, line 25, after “person” insert “exercising...
My Lords, the amendment is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. I shall speak also...
My Lords, the noble Lord raises an important point. In response, I am sure that the noble Barones...
My Lords, I hope that this amendment will not require any further meetings or probing on Report. ...
My Lords, I am very grateful for that explanation provided by the Minister. The meeting of 20 min...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
11: Clause 3, page 3, line 32, at end insert “but not bulk data...
My Lords, Amendment 11 is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. We debated long and...
Again, I hope that I can provide clarity on the noble Lord’s amendment. When applying for an over...
My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s explanation. I am not sure that it entirely satisfies ...
If there is any doubt in this matter, as I understand it from the briefing that we had from the H...
I thank the noble Lord because that underlines my point.
If that is the case, there is no reason why it should not be stated in the Bill.
I am sorry, but I think I need to intervene. All sorts of things could be stated in the Bill, but...
With the greatest respect to the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, he is talking about a bilateral agreeme...
Moved by
Lord Rosser
12: Clause 3, page 3, line 39, leave out subsection (5)
This amendment is in my name, that of my noble friend Lord Kennedy, the noble Lord, Lord Paddick,...
My Lords, my noble friend and I put our names to the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Rosser—s...
It sounds as if the meeting could last more than a day. Amendment 12 would amend Clause 3(5) by e...
Shall I ask the question again?
She asked: why only professional counselling? The Government believe this to be an expansive defi...
My Lords, we have two definitions: “personal records” and “confidential personal records”. It is ...
The noble Baroness may now have confused me. Both Clauses 3(7) and (8) have been drafted to refle...
My Lords, I think that was my argument. Might it be possible, between now and Report, for us to b...
We can certainly do that—in fact, magically, we have it here. It reflects the definition in the P...
My Lords, I should just say that I accept that the terminology is used elsewhere: one of my amend...
I thank the Minister for her response. I will reflect on what she said about Amendment 12. I was ...
I am not sure that I answered that point, other than to say that we would not want to narrow the ...
Yes, I am sure that we can discuss that on another occasion or at the intended meeting. However, ...
I am sorry to intervene on the noble Lord, but at the heart of the Bill lies the principle that w...
I understand the point that the noble Baroness has made more than once: that we are unlikely to b...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
14: Clause 4, page 4, line 34, after “requirements” insert “...
My Lords, I have been consulting my noble friend as to whether I should be moving an adjournment ...
I tend to sympathise with the noble Baroness. I was warned to bring my coat in before I came.
...My Lords, if I was a Whip, I would allow a short break if for no reason other than to go and get ...
Before the noble Baroness responds, I have a question for the Minister. I have listened hard to w...
In a sense, this is the same issue that the noble Lord referred to before. Because this is a fram...
My Lords, I would like to think about the response to Amendment 15. I think I made clear that I a...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
16: Clause 4, page 5, line 8, leave out “substantial” and in...
My Lords, this is another amendment in my name and that of my noble friend. Under Clause 4(5) the...
I am very happy to tell the noble Baroness that this is purely British. “Substantial” is a well-e...
My Lords, I think I ought, after today, to consult my noble friend, who will know all about PACE,...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
17: Clause 4, page 5, line 11, leave out from second “that” ...
My Lords, these amendments are about public interest and the balance between public interests. Cl...
My Lords, Amendments 17 and 18 do not add any protections for privacy rights to those already con...
My Lords, I am grateful for those helpful remarks. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Lord Paddick
19: Clause 4, page 5, line 19, at end insert—
“( ) The ju...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 19 in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I will speak...
I referred to the general issue that is the subject of the amendments spoken to by the noble Lord...
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for his points and the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, for his int...
I am very grateful to the Minister for her explanation and her offer to consider further the issu...