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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 16 May 2018, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Callanan, Lord Keen of Elie and Lord Duncan of Springbank. The answering member was Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town.
Lords third reading. New clause 1 agreed to on division (294 to 244).New clause 2 debated and withdrawn. Some amendments made. Amendment to the motion debated and withdrawn. Bill passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

791 cc680-746 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Third reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19. As amended on Report.
Tuesday, 8 May 2018
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 791 c680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have it in command from Her Majesty the Queen to acquaint the House that Her Majesty,...

Lord Krebs | 791 cc680-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Krebs

1: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

“Mainte...


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Lord Krebs | 791 cc681-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to move this amendment which has been tabled in my name and those of the noble B...

Lord Framlingham | 791 c683 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the days that we have spent debating amendments to the Bill have been very dark days fo...

Lord Cormack | 791 c683 (Link to this contribution)

If anybody is doing damage to the reputation of the House, it is my noble friend.

Lord Framlingham | 791 c683 (Link to this contribution)

That is a chance I will have to take. I do not agree with the noble Lord. I think that I am speak...

Countess of Mar | 791 c683 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the noble Lord would kindly pay attention to the amendment on the Order Paper th...

Lord Framlingham | 791 cc683-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am addressing the amendment and other amendments too.

The House has repeatedly been warne...

Lord Winston | 791 c684 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not feel that, important though the future of this House may be, the future o...

Lord Framlingham | 791 c684 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed I do, and I think that in many ways this House has recently been demonstrating its detachm...

Lord Framlingham | 791 c684 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but if this House thinks it understands what is happening in the world outside, that ...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 791 cc684-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Krebs. The environmental principl...

Lord Deben | 791 c686 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as chairman of the climate change committee. That is why I strong...

Lord Deben | 791 cc686-8 (Link to this contribution)

If my noble friend is going to say that, I shall find it rather difficult to move towards him, be...

Lord Rooker | 791 cc688-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to confirm exactly what the noble Lord, Lord Deben, just said about the Climate ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 791 c689 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Krebs. He laid it out extremely well, b...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 791 cc689-690 (Link to this contribution)

No, no, no. These protections are for our air, our food, our animals, our countryside and ourselv...

Viscount Ridley | 791 c690 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Baroness. Surely her speech and many other speeches would do very...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 791 cc690-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Viscount for his intervention. I will most certainly do as he suggests. That is...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 791 c691 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Krebs. I say to the noble Lord, L...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 791 c691 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not. I am sorry. The crucial part of the amendment is subsection (4), which talks abou...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 791 cc691-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was pondering in bed this morning, as one does, about when the change of tone came fr...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 791 c692 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. I am just contemplating the ca...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 791 c692 (Link to this contribution)

I shall no doubt see the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, on this matter at a later point because, in fa...

Lord Dykes | 791 c692 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my thanks to the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, and the others who have their name to th...

Countess of Mar | 791 c693 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I remind the noble Lord that procedure at Third Reading is the same as for Report, ...

Lord Dykes | 791 c693 (Link to this contribution)

I was going on to emphasise, once again, the ecumenical nature of this whole process, and the tri...

Baroness Byford | 791 cc693-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important amendment. At various stages, I have spoken very strongly in favou...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 791 c694 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, for setting out so clearly the arguments f...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 791 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I think the noble Lord has already heard that he cannot intervene, because he has already spoken,...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not going to give way. The noble Lord has already had several opportunities to intervene...

Lord Deben | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Baroness please give way? It is sensible in debate to give way, and I hope that t...

Lord Framlingham | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. The point that I am making—

Countess of Mar | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has not asked for the leave of the House.

Lord Framlingham | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, may I ask a question?

Lord Framlingham | 791 c695 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Baroness accept that nobody is keener on the environment than me, as many people i...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 791 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know the noble Lord’s record on the environment; I am sure he will have other opportunit...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 791 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I will not support the amendment at this stage; I will probably support it or something similar a...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 791 cc696-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thought that I had addressed that. If after Brexit day we are to have the same powers and enfor...

Lord Callanan | 791 cc697-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is, frankly, disappointing that this amendment has been tabled today. We have debate...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, will the noble Lord clarify one thing? He suggested, I think, that we are going to cont...

Lord Callanan | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am absolutely confirming that: the principles will continue until the end of the implement...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

This is a very important point. Will the means of enforcement continue until the end of the imple...

Lord Callanan | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. All current processes will continue until the end of the implementation period.

The Go...

Lord Deben | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend mean that, until the end of 2020, we would be able to take an enforcement ac...

Lord Callanan | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have announced on numerous occasions, there will be further legislation to consid...

Lord Callanan | 791 c699 (Link to this contribution)

I ask noble Lords to wait a moment. There will be a further withdrawal agreement and implementati...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know which way to vote, so what the Minister is saying to the House is enormously import...

Lord Callanan | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

That is what has been agreed in the implementation period that we have agreed with the EU so far—...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister therefore explain why our amendment to allow the ECJ to continue until the end ...

Lord Callanan | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Because there will be separate legislation to consider the implications of the implementation per...

Lord Teverson | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Can I point out to the Minister that we have no agreement that there will be an implementation pe...

Lord Callanan | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the noble Lord is simply wrong: we do have agreement on an implementation period...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 791 c700 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, surely, in the event that there is no deal, we leave on 29 March 2019 and there is no i...

Lord Callanan | 791 cc700-1 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously if there is no deal, we do not have an implementation period—but we are working towards...

Lord Elton | 791 c701 (Link to this contribution)

I hate to interrupt the Minister again, but I am genuinely confused by his answers to the Cross B...

Lord Callanan | 791 c701 (Link to this contribution)

As the implementation period has already been agreed, it will be the subject of further legislati...

Lord Krebs | 791 c701 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate this afternoon. We have heard...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 791 c701 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff

2: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clau...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 791 cc701-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by thanking the Minister, the noble Lord, Lord O’Shaughnessy, their officials a...

Lord Warner | 791 cc706-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the author and architect of the earlier amendment on public health, I think that I s...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 791 c707 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, your Lordships will know that I took part in the debate on the amendment tabled by the ...

Baroness Wheeler | 791 cc707-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of my noble friend Lord Hunt, who is unable to be here today, I fully support...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 791 cc708-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, for bringing back this important amendment before your L...

Lord Lansley | 791 c709 (Link to this contribution)

Circumstances have not enabled me to participate in previous debates on this subject but I want t...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 791 c709 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend Lord Lansley for that helpful intervention. He is, of course, absolutely ...

Lord Dykes | 791 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Bearing in mind that Clause 4 as amended has clear definitions of the protections that were requi...

Lord Duncan of Springbank | 791 c710 (Link to this contribution)

I always welcome interventions of this nature. On this occasion I think that the Government posit...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 791 c710 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to everyone who has intervened. As someone who has felt passionately...

Baroness Goldie | 791 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Goldie

3: Clause 8, page 6, line 20, after “legislation” insert “so...

Baroness Goldie | 791 c711 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not detain the House but shall be as swift as possible, because these amendment...

Lord Wigley | 791 c711 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down, were the changes in relation to the Welsh devolution settlem...

Baroness Goldie | 791 c711 (Link to this contribution)

I have no specific information about that. The amendments are intended to help the Welsh Assembly...

Countess of Mar | 791 c711 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness can move only Amendment 3 at this stage.

Baroness Goldie | 791 c711 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Goldie

4: Clause 8, page 6, line 22, after “5(2)” insert “or (4)(a)...

Lord Pannick | 791 c712 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Pannick

7: Clause 8, page 7, line 4, at end insert—

“( ) Without ...

Lord Pannick | 791 cc712-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 7 is in my name and in the names of three other members of your Lordships’ Co...

Lord Beith | 791 cc713-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not add to the exposition of the amendment and the reasons for tabling it, which...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 791 c714 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important question. It is just possible that Clause 8 could be used by the c...

Lord Keen of Elie | 791 cc714-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord’s amendment endeavours to provide a global answer to the question of whe...

Lord Pannick | 791 c717 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord for explaining so simply just how complex this issue is. I am ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 791 c717 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Thomas of Gresford

8: Clause 15, page 13, line 7, at end insert—

...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 791 cc717-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on 2 May on Report, at col. 2148, I pointed out that by reason of subsection (4) of the...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 791 cc719-721 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 9 in my name. The Bill was substantially amended on Report wi...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 791 c720 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to follow what the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace of Tankerness, has just said, t...

Lord Wigley | 791 cc722-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresfor...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 791 cc723-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in support of these amendments. I do so with great trepidation as a non-la...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 791 c724 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is very well-meaning in what he suggests. However, is he aware that Mike Russell a...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 791 c725 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord probably knows more about it than me. I only know what I read in the UK press, whi...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 791 cc725-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is certainly not my purpose to say or do anything that makes it more difficult to re...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 791 cc726-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would also like to say a word about giving this Bill a Third Reading, in the absence ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 791 c728 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, therefore explain why the Labour members of the Scottish P...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 791 c728 (Link to this contribution)

My Lord, the wonderful thing about devolution is that it happens within our political parties, ju...

Lord Keen of Elie | 791 cc728-731 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their contributions in this debate. We may be repeating some of...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 791 cc731-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for his very full reply, and in particular I note hi...

Lord Callanan | 791 c732 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Callanan

10: Schedule 3, page 44, line 24, at end insert—

“( ) In...

Lord Callanan | 791 c732 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Callanan

12: Schedule 7, page 73, line 32, leave out “that requires” an...

Lord Callanan | 791 c733 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move the Motion with a tremendous sigh of relief. This is a good time to reflect—brie...

Lord Adonis | 791 cc733-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that the House of Lords has spent longer considering any piece of legisl...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 791 c735 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not think that he should be rather more honest about his motives? For example...

Lord Adonis | 791 c735 (Link to this contribution)

I very much hope that happens, and I hope that the noble Lord, being a democrat, will support the...

Lord Adonis | 791 c735 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the noble Lord will have an opportunity to make his own speech in a moment, if he wi...

Lord Adonis | 791 c736 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way. Whatever happens hereafter, I am totally unafraid of being abolished for act...

Lord Fowler | 791 c736 (Link to this contribution)

The original Motion was that this Bill do now pass, since when an amendment has been moved to ins...

Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 791 c736 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I trust that noble Lords are relieved that I have removed my Motion to Regret from the ...

Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 791 cc736-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have saved noble Lords an awful lot of time. I hope that students of Brexit will read what I sa...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 791 cc737-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to say a word about my attempts for Scotland. I am going to read this from...

Lord Wigley | 791 cc738-740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as one who—unlike certain other colleagues—has barely missed an hour of the 156 hours o...

Lord Elton | 791 c740 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the noble Lord on his “hwyl”—

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 791 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my eyes have misted over with gratitude that I have lived long enough to see this happe...

Lord Elton | 791 cc740-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving the Motion that we are now discussing, the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, made one ...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 791 cc741-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, for this opportunity to say what I want t...

Lord Cormack | 791 cc742-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel provoked to respond, because my noble friend Lord Hamilton of Epsom was kind eno...

Lord Liddle | 791 c743 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may make three brief points or what the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, described as hallucin...

Lord Newby | 791 cc743-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may surprise them, but I begin by congratulating and thanking the Government Front B...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 791 cc744-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think the view of the House is that we should conclude.

On Second Reading, I re...

Lord Callanan | 791 c746 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, all of us have travelled a long way—in my case, it seems like an awful long way—over a ...

Lord Adonis | 791 c746 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.

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