Higher Education and Research Bill
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Tuesday, 22 November 2016
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My Lords, it may be for the convenience of your Lordships to have a slight pause here to enable t...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
317: Clause 47, page 27, line 38, leave out “and ...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
323: Clause 47, page 28, line 8, leave out “or fo...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
325: Clause 47, page 28, line 12, leave out “or f...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
329: Clause 47, page 28, line 16, leave out “or a...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
332: Clause 47, page 28, line 21, leave out “or f...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
334: Clause 47, page 28, line 29, leave out “or a...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
336: Clause 47, page 28, line 30, leave out “or a...
My Lords, I beg noble Lords’ indulgence because there will be a couple of times when I will need ...
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment for all the good reasons set out by the noble Ba...
My Lords, I speak for Clause 47. I have not spoken on the Bill to date but I have followed its pr...
My Lords, I was going to speak early in this debate, but the intervention by the Lord Speaker, wi...
My Lords, I support that final point, because we have to get at the principle of whether it is ap...
My Lords, I wonder how this works in view of Clause 47(6):
“Regulations under subsection (1...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the opportunity to discuss validation arrangements. We believe ...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his full reply, though if anything I am now more confused than...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
339: Clause 51, page 32, line 6, leave out “(ins...
My Lords, this group of amendments deals with whether and on what basis the powers of the OfS sho...
My Lords, let me first reassure your Lordships that we absolutely agree that a university title i...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her contribution. I am glad to see that she has got over her s...
My Lords, I was very careful and quite specific in the expression of my description of the Privy ...
The subtlety of that point, I am afraid, has been lost on me entirely and therefore I will contin...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
353: Clause 54, page 34, line 34, leave out from ...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
358: Clause 54, page 34, line 43, at end insert—<...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
359: Clause 55, page 35, line 3, leave out from “...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
361: Clause 55, page 35, line 12, at end insert—<...
My Lords, if Amendment 362 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 363 by reason of pre-emption.
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
363: Clause 55, page 35, line 14, after “decision...
Moved by
Baroness Brown of Cambridge
364: Schedule 5, page 85, line 14, at end insert...
My Lords, this amendment stands in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Wolf. It would limit ...
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her contribution. Clause 56 and Schedule 5 as drafted wi...
Before my noble friend sits down, I was wondering whether the justice of the peace who is to deci...
I thank my noble and very learned friend for his contribution. I cannot comment on the specifics ...
My Lords, I am grateful for that, but of course it does not deal with the question that I am aski...
My Lords, I totally defer to my noble and learned friend on these matters. I do not have the tech...
I thank the Minister for her detailed reply. I am not sure I understand what the grounds for sear...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
365: Before Clause 59, insert the following new C...
Moved by
Lord Watson of Invergowrie
366: Clause 59, page 37, line 3, leave out “body”...
My Lords, in moving this amendment I shall also speak to others in this group in the name of my n...
My Lords, I have three amendments in this group. Amendment 371 urges the Government to make as mu...
My Lords, I support the amendments in this group, particularly Amendment 368, which is about the ...
My Lords, I have one amendment in this group, which is a very small amendment in that it asks tha...
My Lords, the amendments in my name are relevant to the points that the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf...
I think that I am right in saying that some years ago it was decided that a statutory authority d...
My Lords, I remind the Committee that the people who will pay these fees that the regulator is ch...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 371. I hope that the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas...
I thank all noble Lords who have raised these important issues. I agree immediately with the nobl...
On that point, the Minister said that it would be “expected” of the OfS, but I do not see what co...
The noble Lord makes a fair point, but I must go back to the overarching statement that I made at...
On the Minister’s last point about connected and unconnected fees, I understand that the Secretar...
I will attempt to answer the points made by my noble and learned friend. Surely this is encompass...
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for his reply on Amendment 371, but I think he rather ...
My Lords, this has been a livelier group of amendments than had been anticipated. Gratitude is du...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
367: Clause 59, page 37, line 3, leave out from “...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
369: Clause 59, page 37, line 10, leave out parag...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
372: Clause 59, page 37, line 13, at end insert—<...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
375: Clause 59, page 37, line 17, leave out “in E...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
381: Clause 59, page 37, line 21, after “consult”...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
385: Clause 59, page 37, line 39, leave out “its”...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
388: Clause 60, page 38, line 2, leave out first ...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
394: Schedule 6, page 90, line 17, leave out “in ...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
397: Schedule 6, page 91, line 6, leave out “sect...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
399: Schedule 6, page 91, line 21, leave out “dut...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
405: Schedule 6, page 92, line 11, leave out “in ...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
408: Schedule 6, page 92, line 27, leave out “dut...
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Viscount Younger of Leckie
414: Clause 61, page 38, line 32, leave out “duty...
Moved by
Lord Lucas
416: Clause 63, page 39, line 37, at end insert “, limited to the...
My Lords, many of the providers which will come under this Bill are operating with similar qualif...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Stevenson and Lord Lucas, and the noble Baroness, Lady Wo...
My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for that explanation, which I shall go away and c...
Moved by
Baroness Brown of Cambridge
420: Clause 64, page 40, line 26, leave out subs...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 420, which is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Wolf, I w...
My Lords, I am greatly in sympathy with what the noble Baroness has just said. I very much hope t...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 423 in my name. The question is about grants to the OfS for s...
My Lords, I want to repeat what has been said by a large number of people in the Committee this a...
My Lords, it is the Government’s intention that the OfS’s running costs will be shared between th...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her detailed reply and her very strong assurances in this area...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
422: Schedule 7, page 94, line 20, leave out from...
Moved by
Baroness Brown of Cambridge
429: After Clause 69, insert the following new C...
My Lords, Amendment 429 is in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf. This is a probin...
My Lords, I strongly support what my noble friend Lady Brown said. Up until now, higher education...
My Lords, I apologise to the Minister. I was watching a figure behind who seemed to be moving tow...
My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Brown and Lady Wolf, and others for laying this amen...
I thank the Minister for his explanation and the further detail he supplied. I would be intereste...
Moved by
Baroness Wolf of Dulwich
434ZA: After Clause 72, insert the following new Cl...
Amendment 434ZA, in my name and that of the noble Viscount, Lord Ridley, is not exactly a probing...
My Lords, I support the amendment, which also stands in my name. I did not speak at Second Readin...
My Lords, I support the amendment. As the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf, said, the possible prolifera...
I too support the amendment. There are things that only Governments can do. If we want an example...
I support the amendment and endorse everything that the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf, said in introd...
My Lords, we agree that it is necessary to have a holistic overview of the sector to understand i...
I do not think that the amendment was proposing barriers of any sort. We need to be clear about t...
I thank the noble Baroness for her intervention. I fully accept that the express text may not hav...
Would it be worth considering inserting the phrase from this amendment, “emerging needs for new p...
As ever, my noble and learned friend makes a significant suggestion. I undertake that we shall re...
I observe that a whole section of Schedule 1 relating to the Office for Students concerns committ...
It would be very helpful to have that confirmed.
I thank the noble Lord for his intervention. He is quite correct that the schedule does indeed em...
I thank the Minister. For part of the last five minutes I felt as though two different plays were...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
436: Clause 79, page 48, line 29, at end insert—<...
Moved by
Baroness Goldie
438: Clause 80, page 50, line 42, at end insert—
“(ha)...
My Lords, the Government want to make this a country that works for everyone. That is why we have...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 442 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Willis. The C...
My Lords, I promised the noble Lord that I would try to be present for this brief debate, and I a...
My Lords, having launched that original consultation document I am delighted that we now have the...
My Lords, it is very much to be welcomed that Muslim students are to be offered Sharia-friendly s...
My Lords, the debate has been helpful. I think we all agree that participation and choice in furt...
There are commencement provisions in relation to Clauses 80, 81 and 82, which is why, I assume, t...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
439: Clause 80, page 50, line 43, at beginning in...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
440: Clause 82, page 52, line 34, after “persons”...
Moved by
Lord Sharkey
442: After Clause 82, insert the following new Clause—
“S...
I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Cormack, Lord Willetts and Lord Watson, and the noble and ...
That is not possible. The noble Lord has spoken to it, so it must be moved, and I shall propose t...
We have run into a slight procedural problem, in that Amendments 440 and 441 in a previous group ...
Perhaps I should point out that even when an amendment is grouped, it is still open, when that am...
My Lords, perhaps I can be helpful to the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, in reply. Given that we did...
Would the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, now like to beg leave to withdraw his amendment?
I apologise for the procedural confusion, and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
443: After Clause 82, insert the following new C...
My Lords, this amendment has wide support across the House, and I look forward to hearing the com...
My Lords, I speak in support of the amendment, to which I was pleased to add my name. Access to h...
My Lords, it is my privilege to have added my name to this amendment. My favourite Christmas card...
My Lords, I, too, am glad to have my name on the amendment. Appreciation and tribute should be of...
My Lords, I should apologise to the Committee, as I did not speak at Second Reading, but I am ver...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for bringing forward this amendment. I am very sorry that the no...
But, my Lords, that is not what the amendment says. I have listened very carefully to the Ministe...
Moved by
Baroness Garden of Frognal
444: After Clause 82, insert the following new Cl...
My Lords, Amendment 444, in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Storey, seeks to mirror the ...
My Lords, perhaps I could briefly challenge the proposals of the noble Baroness, Lady Garden. I d...
My Lords, Amendments 446, 449 and 449B are in my name. Amendment 446 is a reaction to the fact th...
My Lords, I broadly support, in particular, Amendment 446, tabled by my noble friend Lord Watson....
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their contributions. I am aware that this is an issue that stim...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her detailed response. I bow, of course, to the remarks of the...
Moved by
Baroness Goldie
450: Clause 83, page 53, line 13, at end insert—
“( ) ...
My Lords, these amendments make a number of largely technical changes to this clause, which deals...
Moved by
Baroness Goldie
451: Clause 83, page 53, line 14, leave out from “section 40...
Moved by
Lord Hannay of Chiswick
462: After Clause 83, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, Amendment 462 is in my name and the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Garden, the noble...
My Lords, my default position is always to try to be helpful. That is one reason why I was so ple...
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment; I strongly support the words that we have heard...
My Lords, I too have added my name to the amendment. Everything has already been said. I would me...
My Lords, I declare my interests as someone employed at the University of Cambridge. One of my ro...
My Lords, we have heard about the importance of international students in the context of soft pow...
My Lords, I support the amendment. I do not have much to add to the eloquent comments that have b...
My Lords, I congratulate without qualification those who have put this amendment forward. When I ...
My Lords, I support the amendment introduced by the noble Lord, Lord Hannay. As my noble friend L...
My Lords, I felt that this part of the debate would not be complete without the voice of the over...
My Lords, this has been a terrific debate. It must rank as one of the better ones on this topic t...
My Lords, I mentioned something about hot seats in respect of my position later in Monday’s debat...
My Lords, can my noble friend confirm, as I gather from his speech, that the proposals made by th...
My understanding is that during that speech she undertook to go ahead with the consultation, as I...
My Lords, I am most grateful to all who have taken part in this extremely lively and, I think, ra...
Moved by
Lord Hannay of Chiswick
463: After Clause 83, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, the two amendments in this group, Amendments 463 and 464, are separate from, but to som...
My Lords, I fully support everything the noble Lord has said but I have one thing to add. Everyon...
Obviously these amendments are relevant to the debate we have just had, and I do not want to spea...
My Lords, although I do not have the details with me, I should like to support what the noble Lor...
My Lords, I add my support to what has already been said. Amendment 463 builds directly on the di...
My Lords, in at least one of the universities in which I am involved, I know of a specific exampl...
My Lords, I fully endorse the amendment and the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Patten. I am from...
My Lords, I hope that in the course of this Bill we will make an amendment somewhere in this area...
My Lords, this has been another good debate. In some senses the previous amendment and the two am...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hannay of Chiswick, for moving the amendment. I set out in...
My Lords, I have listened carefully to what the Minister said—although I was fairly appalled by s...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
466: After Clause 84, insert the following new C...
My Lords, again, my noble friend Lord Dubs is not able to be present because he is attending anot...
My Lords, I added my name to the list, as the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, said, in the absence of...
My Lords, I regret that I have to challenge the view that has been put forward by Members here wh...
My Lords, I support the amendment. The noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb, asked me to pas...
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, left the JCHR at the moment I arrived on it. I wanted ...
My Lords, the suggestion of an independent review bears very serious consideration. A very diffic...
My Lords, the threat we face from terrorism is unprecedented and very real. In addition to the fr...
I thank all speakers in this debate. It is a difficult area and we certainly went into several of...
What I said was that we welcome discussion about how to implement Prevent effectively and proport...
Unhelpful is certainly not the same as dangerous but I think the word “dangerous” was used—we wil...
Moved by
Lord Storey
467: After Clause 84, insert the following new Clause—
“Of...
My Lords, plagiarism is a form of cheating and an academic offence. “Contract cheating” is a part...
My Lords, I will say a few words in support of the noble Lord, Lord Storey. I commend him on the ...
My Lords, this amendment raises an important issue that is central to the quality and reputation ...
Has the noble Baroness brought her mind to bear on whether the students who solicited the cheatin...
I thank the noble Baroness for her helpful intervention. I cannot answer on behalf of the noble L...
The Minister is absolutely right: this should not be rushed and we should get it spot on. We have...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
468: After Clause 84, insert the following new C...
My Lords, this amendment deals with the question of how we put into statute a definition that wil...
My Lords, I have spoken many times before about freedom of speech. I want to link together the Pr...
My Lords, I very much support Amendment 468. It puts the matter clearly and positively. It needs ...
My Lords, I thank all Peers for raising the important issues of freedom of speech and of unlawful...
I thank the noble Viscount for his considered response. This is a matter on which we should all r...
Tabled by
Baroness Deech
469: After Clause 84, insert the following new Clause—
My Lords, I wish to add just a few words on this issue as virtually everything has been said. I r...
Moved by
Baroness Brown of Cambridge
470: Schedule 8, page 96, line 3, at end insert—...
My Lords, noble Lords will be glad to hear that I will move Amendment 470 in my name and that of ...
My Lords, Amendment 471 in this group is in my name. It seeks to remove part of new Section 123B ...
The noble Lord has set me a task. I will keep my response suitably short, given the lateness of t...
I thank the Minister for his response. I am disappointed that he does not recognise that the cont...