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Higher Education and Research Bill

Lords committee stage second day. Schedule 1 agreed to as amended. Clause 2 under consideration. Part 1 of 2.

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777 cc1957-2019 

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2016-17

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Higher Education and Research Bill 2016-17. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 22 November 2016
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 777 c1957 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Garden of Frognal

9: Schedule 1, page 70, line 37, at end insert “,...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 777 cc1958-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 9 and shall speak to Amendments 31, 32 and 172. I have added my...


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Lord Lucas | 777 c1959 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have one amendment in this group, Amendment 53. Much of what the noble Baroness, Lady...

Lord Storey | 777 c1959 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after the excellent first day in Committee, when we heard from chancellors and former c...

Lord Bilimoria | 777 c1960 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall address the point about part-time and lifelong learning, and speak from my own ...

Lord Blunkett | 777 cc1960-1 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this brief debate. It is crucial that we should turn our attention to different forms o...

Lord Winston | 777 c1961 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness’s amendment. This is a particularly important issue which,...

Baroness Bakewell | 777 cc1961-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and Amendments 32, 41, 46 and 172, to the latter of which my n...

Lord Rees of Ludlow | 777 cc1962-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments, in particular for the reasons stated by the noble Baroness,...

Lord Giddens | 777 c1963 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments and will elaborate on what I said at Second Reading about th...

Baroness Blackstone | 777 cc1963-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate myself with these amendments and support what has been said so far. I parti...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 777 c1964 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak in support of Amendments 41, 46 and 172, which all relate to part-time an...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 777 c1965 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all the amendments and in particular the comments that my noble friend has ju...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 777 c1965 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also would like to support this amendment and all the amendments in the group, one of...

Lord Desai | 777 c1965 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a short plea for something that has not been mentioned so far. Most people ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc1965-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a good debate focusing on three main strands. First, the dire state into ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 cc1966-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government wholeheartedly agree that part-time education, distance learning and adu...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 777 c1968 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene, but while the reasons may be complex, can the Minister give us some idea...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1968 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to go precisely into that at the moment except to say only that the Government cont...

Baroness O'Cathain | 777 cc1968-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for giving way. Surely one of the reasons is the appalling lack of broadb...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1969 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I said that these are complex matters and, as I said, I do not intend to lead the Commi...

Lord Winston | 777 c1969 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not accept that one of the problems is the attitude to part-time learning, some...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1969 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is right. It certainly is not second rate, but I must say again that many of the o...

Baroness Blackstone | 777 c1969 (Link to this contribution)

I assume from what the Minister said he will not accept any of these amendments. As someone who h...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1969 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have done that. The whole point is I want to avoid placing undue restrictions on the Of...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1970 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Viscount aware that he is committing a bit of a solecism? The Bill centres on making...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1970 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know about that, my Lords, but I reiterate that I take all remarks made this afternoon e...

Lord Lucas | 777 c1970 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful for what my noble friend said about my Amendment 53, but he prompts ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1970 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that. Indeed, credit accumulation or credit transfer, however it migh...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 777 cc1970-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords from all around the Chamber who have spoken in this short debat...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1971 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

14: Schedule 1, page 71, line 9, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc1971-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is day 2 of our Committee proceedings. It might be interesting to reflect for a se...

Baroness Brinton | 777 cc1972-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to Amendments 14 and 16. I thank the Minister for the amendments ta...

Lord Willetts | 777 cc1974-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly comment on the very interesting interventions we have already had, which...

Baroness Brinton | 777 c1975 (Link to this contribution)

Might I use an example to try to answer the question that the noble Lord raised? I have amendment...

Lord Willetts | 777 c1975 (Link to this contribution)

It is certainly the case that mainstreaming can be a euphemism for a solitary and nasty death, de...

Lord Giddens | 777 cc1975-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that my comments on fair access reflect my general worries about the Bill, ...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 777 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that we are not going to lose the main point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Br...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 777 cc1976-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a couple of perhaps slightly random points to make. Access and participation go ...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 777 c1977 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not mean to speak on this part of the Bill, and was absent at Second Reading, but...

Baroness Blackstone | 777 cc1977-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to make a couple of comments on what has been said so far. I want to assoc...

Earl of Listowel | 777 c1979 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the amendments grouped here on access and participation, and follow t...

Baroness Quin | 777 cc1979-1980 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not speak at Second Reading, so perhaps I should begin by declaring some non-fina...

Baroness Brown of Cambridge | 777 c1980 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I raise an issue that I think we have not spoken about under the important heading of a...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 c1980 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should have said at Second Reading that I am a member of the Council for the Defence ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 777 c1980 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish briefly to reiterate a point made by the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, about primar...

Lord Krebs | 777 c1981 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want very briefly to endorse the comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Brown of Cambri...

Lord Willetts | 777 c1981 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, of course, he and other Cross-Benchers are absolutely right abou...

Lord Krebs | 777 c1981 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly welcome that, but it still leaves open the question of the accumulated debt.

Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 777 cc1981-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are effectively talking about the criteria that will be used by the relevant offices...

Lord Bilimoria | 777 c1982 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I request that the Minister reassures us that, when we talk about access, the Bill ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 cc1982-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I address this group of amendments, I wish to respond to the opening remarks of ...

Lord Giddens | 777 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

Will anybody be responsible for monitoring wider trends in labour markets in the context of highe...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the Director for Fair Access and Participation will have the right to find thes...

Baroness Brinton | 777 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

I asked a question about Amendment 27 and the fact that when the Director for Fair Access and Par...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

It would be better to write a letter to clarify that in detail.

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 777 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

I asked a specific question about the transfer of students, using their acquired learning, on to ...

Baroness Wolf of Dulwich | 777 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

May I correct that? It may be true that this is not common but it is not true that the vast major...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

That was a very interesting short debate but perhaps I may reassure noble Lords that this issue h...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

I thank those who have participated in this debate and in particular the noble Baroness, Lady Bri...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may clarify that. It is simply that I am listening and reflecting at this stage, and I ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc1985-6 (Link to this contribution)

They were the Minister’s words, not mine, but I hear what he says. I hope that he is taking accou...

Lord Willetts | 777 c1986 (Link to this contribution)

It is not simply about the participation of people who come from a disadvantaged background and b...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1986 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. That is very helpful and extremely interesting if we are talking about gi...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1986 (Link to this contribution)

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Viscount Younger of Leckie

15: Schedule 1, page 71, line 11, leave out from ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1987 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

17: Schedule 1, page 71, line 17, leave out “para...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1987 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

19: Schedule 1, page 71, line 43, leave out “con...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1987 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I can be relatively brief in speaking to the amendments in this group. They are larg...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 cc1987-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I quite understand the desire of the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for greater transparen...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1989 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Viscount for his response. I have one quick question about the costs of members...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1989 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

22: Schedule 1, page 73, line 11, at end insert—...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc1989-1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group has one amendment in my name and two in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady...

Baroness Brown of Cambridge | 777 c1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and will speak to Amendments 508A and 509A in my name. The Off...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 777 c1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. The Bill will set up two very powerful new bodies in the Of...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 c1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, your Lordships will be aware that in Amendment 509 the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Finsbu...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 777 c1991 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the Committee of the interests I have previously declared. Like the noble and ...

Lord Willetts | 777 cc1991-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the proposition behind the amendments—the importance of collabor...

Lord Jopling | 777 cc1992-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will follow what my noble friend Lord Willetts just said—but first perhaps I should s...

Lord Triesman | 777 c1993 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and Amendment 509A. I do not want to repeat the points that ha...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 cc1993-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate all the contributions that noble Lords have made to this short debate. The...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to those Members of your Lordships’ House who have participated in this s...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 777 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

Does this not identify one of the central problems we face with the Bill? We have very clear and ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc1995-6 (Link to this contribution)

I could not have put it better myself. I agree entirely. Having analysed it so successfully there...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c1996 (Link to this contribution)

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Viscount Younger of Leckie

24: Schedule 1, page 73, line 32, at end insert—<...

Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 777 cc1996-7 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Sutherland of Houndwood

26: Schedule 1, page 74, line 19, at end insert...

Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 777 cc1997-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment has two themes: transparency and accountability. I have to say to my col...

Lord Lucas | 777 cc1998-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 28, 48 and 465 in this group, which have nothing at all to d...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 777 cc2000-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, and will speak to A...

Lord Bilimoria | 777 cc2001-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, and the noble Baro...

Lord Puttnam | 777 c2002 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, perhaps I could give the Com...

Lord Waldegrave of North Hill | 777 cc2003-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments of my noble friend Lord Lucas. This is probably the first shot...

Lord Winston | 777 c2004 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are deeply grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Waldegrave, for his remarkable contribut...

Lord Cormack | 777 cc2004-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also express my strong, unequivocal support for my noble friend Lord Lucas and his am...

Lord Smith of Finsbury | 777 cc2005-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, I cannot hope to match the...

Lord Broers | 777 c2006 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many noble Lords have spoken very eloquently about this matter. I add my support to the...

Baroness Blackstone | 777 cc2006-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Waldegrave, referred to what happened to him in 1981. I say to him...

Lord Winston | 777 c2007 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not a factor that the Home Office does not have proper data on which students go to which u...

Baroness Blackstone | 777 c2007 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot speak for the Home Office on the care it takes in collection of data. Others will know b...

Lord Kakkar | 777 c2007 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Sutherland of Houndwood and...

Lord Judd | 777 c2009 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased that what has come to the fore in this debate has been the concern of this...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 777 c2009 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the risk of lowering the tone after my noble friend Lord Judd’s speech, I say that I...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 777 cc2010-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I suspect that the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, was quite relieved when the noble Lord,...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 cc2011-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I turn to the issues raised in this group on international students—and as the n...

Lord Lucas | 777 cc2014-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I can just sign off on my amendments before the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, br...

Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 777 c2015 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I was about to say a moment ago, this is a strange position that I find myself in. I...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 777 c2015 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

27: Schedule 1, page 74, line 20, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c2016 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

29: Clause 2, page 1, line 9, after “have” inser...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc2016-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be for the convenience of the Committee if I explain that the scurrying around h...

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