Policing and Crime Bill

My Lords, I am very grateful to those who have contributed to this short debate and to the Minist...

I am so sorry to interrupt again. I wonder whether there is a proper distinction between a compla...

I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Bach, and I will leave it to the Government to respond...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

126A: Clause 18, page 31, line 11, after second “Kingdom” inser...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 126A, which is also in the name of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I w...

My Lords, Clause 18 increases the protections afforded to any sensitive information that is obtai...

I am very grateful to the Minister for that lengthy explanation, but it does not answer the quest...

Perhaps I can provide further clarification, although I am not sure that it will clarify matters ...

I need to improve my poker face skills. I am very grateful to the Minister for that explanation. ...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

128: Clause 25, page 39, line 13, after “subsection” insert “(1...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 128 in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee I will speak...

My Lords, this section of the Bill gives the power to designated bodies to make super-complaints ...

I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Paddick and Lord Kennedy, for the opportunity to debate th...

The noble Baroness has talked about consultation on the regulations. Is there a timescale for whe...

If there is a timescale that we know of, I will write to the noble Lord, but I do not have it her...

My Lords, it is clear that the Government have given a great deal of thought to the concept of su...

We do not know how many super-complaints will be made because it is difficult to judge that. The ...

My Lords, perhaps I may pursue the point about the regulations one more time. The noble Baroness ...

I do not have a timescale. I do not want to give the noble Lord false information, so it is only ...

My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords who have contributed to the debate, and for the respo...

Moved by

Lord Rosser

131: After Clause 26, insert the following new Clause—

“Po...

My Lords, the amendment would provide for the Prime Minister to commission an independent inquiry...

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. The second stage of...

My Lords, I also support the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Rosser. I agree with the com...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who contributed to this debate. I join the noble Lord, Lord Ken...

The Minister referred to subsection (3) in the amendment, which states:

“The inquiry may on...

It is the latter. We will make a decision on Leveson 2 once the outstanding cases have been concl...

Can the Minister say why the position has changed from the very clear and specific commitment giv...

My Lords, both the current Prime Minister and the previous Prime Minister were very clear that al...

Is the Minister saying on behalf of the Government that the previous Prime Minister did not give ...

My Lords, I would have to look at the exact words that the previous Prime Minister used before I ...

I find the Government’s response most unsatisfactory but at least the Minister has confirmed that...

My Lords, I hope I did not make it clear that we have gone back on the decision but we will make ...

The promise that was given was that there would be a second stage of Leveson. If the Government a...

I think we are going to have to agree to differ that we have not gone back but we will consider i...

I accept that the Committee will not want me to continue with an argument over the difference in ...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

132: Clause 27, page 40, line 14, after “occurred” insert “or i...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 132 I will speak also to our Amendments 135, 136 and 137 in this gr...

My Lords, this section of the Bill deals with whistleblowing and investigations by the IPCC. It p...

I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Paddick and Lord Kennedy, for the opportunity to debate th...

I was pleased that the Minister was sympathetic to the point I made on Amendment 133; that is cer...

We will reflect.

5.30 pm

I am very grateful to the Minister for her explanation and for admitting the concern of Her Majes...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

138: Clause 28, page 45, line 42, leave out fr...

My Lords, the important amendments in this group relate to the circumstances in which disciplinar...

My Lords, we broadly welcome the government amendments in this group and, subject to what the nob...

My Lords, first, I associate myself with the comments made by the Minister and by the noble Lord,...

My Lords, I apologise for not being here at the start of this grouping; I intended to speak but I...

My Lords, I also apologise for not joining this particular part of the debate earlier. I absolute...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords who have responded to both the government amendments and the ot...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way but my understanding is that, in the past at l...

I will certainly write to the noble Lord. I can envisage such a situation where somebody was sanc...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

139: Clause 28, page 46, leave out line 15 and...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

144: Schedule 7, page 262, line 23, leave out ...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

146: Clause 29, page 48, line 38, leave out “or is similar”<...

We also have Amendment 148 in this group and the Government have Amendment 147. These are not suc...

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, explained, this group of amendments responds to two...

My Lords, I am indeed happy. The insertion of the words in Amendment 147 give the clause a comple...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

147: Clause 29, page 48, line 38, after “by” i...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

147A: Schedule 8, page 265, line 20, leave out “, efficiency or...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 147A, which is also in the name of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, I w...

My Lords, I have listened carefully to the case put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for ...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her lengthy explanation of what the barred list and the a...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

148: Schedule 8, page 267, line 31, leave out ...

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

151: Schedule 8, page 271, leave out lines 32 ...

Moved by

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

153A: Clause 30, leave out Clause 30 and insert ...

My Lords, Clause 30 is designed to implement two of the recommendations made by Major-General Chi...

Moved by

Lord Rosser

154: Clause 32, page 51, line 32, after “the” insert “Independen...

Clause 32 provides for the current Independent Police Complaints Commission to continue in existe...

My Lords, I support this amendment. For those who have monitored the police complaints process an...

My Lords, I have some sympathy for the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, for precis...

Would the noble Lord accept that, in the history of police complaints, more so than for “Of-anyth...

The noble Lord makes a very good point. I hope that the Minister will also remind us why we are c...

My Lords, I added my name to the three amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. I e...

My Lords, surely this is just a matter of common sense. Can we not cut through everything that ha...

I thank the noble Lords who have spoken so clearly on this amendment, particularly the noble Lord...

I thank the Minister for her response and thank all noble Lords who participated in this short de...

Moved by

Lord Rosser

157: Clause 32, page 52, line 4, at end insert “, who must inclu...

The effect of these amendments is to give the director-general of the Office for Police Conduct a...

My Lords, the underlying thinking here ties in quite closely with the debate on the previous grou...

My Lords, the Bill provides for the existing commission to be replaced by a single executive head...

Can I ask the Minister whether the Government accept that, under the Bill’s terms, as far as the ...

My Lords, I think what I outlined in my speech to noble Lords was that the director-general would...

Would the Minister accept that the bit the public will be aware of—like the change from an organi...

I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate, and the Minister for her response settin...

I profusely apologise for intervening, but I thought I would give the noble Lord the full informa...

Not at all. I am very grateful to the noble Baroness for that intervention, further clarifying th...

Moved by

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

159: Schedule 9, page 292, line 3, leave out fro...

My Lords, Amendments 159, 163 and 233 in this group are technical and consequential amendments ar...

Moved by

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

160: Schedule 9, page 294, line 3, leave out “su...

Moved by

Baroness Jolly

163A: After Clause 33, insert the following new Clause—