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Children and Social Work Bill [HL]

Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 12 to 19 agreed to, with clauses 12, 14, 17 and 19 agreed to as amended. Government new clauses agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

774 cc1-72GC 

Session

2016-17

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Children and Social Work Bill (HL) 2016-17
Thursday, 19 May 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee first report.
Wednesday, 15 June 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee second report.
Wednesday, 6 July 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Bichard | 774 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, welcome to the Grand Committee. If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitt...

Lord Ramsbotham | 774 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ramsbotham

105: Clause 12, page 12, line 11, at end insert—

“a “p...


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Lord Ramsbotham | 774 cc1-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am aware that my noble friend Lady Meacher and others have indicated their intention ...

Baroness Walmsley | 774 c2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 106A is in this group. It was Amendment 108 but for some reason has been r...

Baroness Meacher | 774 cc2-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must first apologise that I was unable to be present when my opposition to Clause 11 ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 cc4-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are content to support the amendments in this group that were ably moved and explain...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 cc5-6GC (Link to this contribution)

None the less—I understand the laughter from other noble Lords—there are interesting developments...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 cc6-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support everything that previous speakers have said about both the amendments and in ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 774 cc8-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support what has just been said. Over the years—it goes back quite a long wa...

Lord Warner | 774 c9GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister think about a very simple question? If you take powers to bring things up to na...

Lord Nash | 774 cc9-11GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this group Amendments 105, 107, 108, 109, 109A and 110 concern places of detention, ...

Baroness Meacher | 774 c11GC (Link to this contribution)

I am aware that this practice has gone on—you have anonymity, and so on—yet somehow the media or ...

Lord Nash | 774 c11GC (Link to this contribution)

I will reflect and look into that in more detail. Once it is in the public domain that a particul...

Lord Nash | 774 cc11-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes is the answer.

Clause 13 requires local authorities to notify the panel of events in th...

Baroness Walmsley | 774 c12GC (Link to this contribution)

For the sake of an accurate record, may I point out that Amendment 108, referred to by the Minist...

Lord Ramsbotham | 774 cc12-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his carefully considered response. I just hope that between now...

Lord Nash | 774 c13GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

106: Clause 12, page 12, line 13, leave out “on behalf” and insert...

Lord Nash | 774 c14GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

111: Clause 14, page 13, line 12, at end insert—

“( ) The Pa...

Lord Nash | 774 c14GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to this amendment, which enables a request for information by the Child Sa...

Lord Warner | 774 c14GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had a good go over the issue of the judiciary on our last Committee day. The Ministe...

Lord Nash | 774 c14GC (Link to this contribution)

I will write to the noble Lord about that.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 cc14-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have just picked up the debate we had in Grand Committee on 6 July, when the noble Lo...

Lord Nash | 774 c15GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I will certainly do that, and on that basis I commend the amendment.

Lord Nash | 774 c15GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

112: Clause 14, page 13, line 17, leave out “on behalf” and insert...

Lord Nash | 774 c15GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

113: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

“Loca...

Lord Nash | 774 cc15-20GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak at some length to Amendments 113 to 120, and I will include Amend...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 cc18-22GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his very detailed explanation of these amendments, which are aimed at pu...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 c22GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was an interesting contribution by the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock. I particularl...

Lord Warner | 774 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, could I ask a number of questions, particularly in relation to Amendment 116, on inform...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 774 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall add one more question to those posed by this very important set of amendments about how t...

Lord Nash | 774 cc23-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for this debate. On the points raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we are in Committee I say to the Minister that the latest report of the Delegated Po...

Lord Nash | 774 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

We are considering that report and we will respond in due course. On the point made by the noble ...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

In response to my question about local elected representation, the Minister said that that abilit...

Lord Nash | 774 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the noble Baroness will be delighted to hear that whereas at the moment they have obser...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 c25GC (Link to this contribution)

I totally welcome that and thank the Minister for his response.

Lord Nash | 774 cc25-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

114: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

“Loca...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 774 c28GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park

121: After Clause 14, insert the following new ...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 774 cc28-30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 121 to 125, regarding child death reviews in the multiagenc...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 774 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a question about these clauses, which are generally welcome. The more informatio...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to add another point. Here we are talking about child death review partner...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 774 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their interventions. Perhaps I can take away the comments from the noble ...

Lord Nash | 774 cc30-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

122: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

“Info...

Lord Nash | 774 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

126: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

“Abol...

Lord Nash | 774 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

This new clause is purely technical, but fulfils some important functions. Subsection (1) means t...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister said that this is a technical amendment. Yes, it is, but the introduction ...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 774 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

I will also speak to Amendment 126. I believe the relationship between what is currently the loca...

Lord Nash | 774 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

On the points that have just been made, I thought we had discussed them at considerable length tw...

Lord Wills | 774 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wills

127: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

“Whi...

Lord Wills | 774 cc33-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I said at Second Reading, the Bill is missing a crucial opportunity to introduce pro...

Earl of Listowel | 774 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this of course brings back memories of the home for adults with learning disabilities t...

Baroness Wheeler | 774 cc35-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are very pleased to support this group of amendments to which my noble friend Lord W...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 c37GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not repeat what many other noble Lords have said about whistleblowing, but conf...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 774 cc37-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wills, for these amendments and to noble Lords for their co...

Lord Wills | 774 cc38-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to everyone who has taken part in this short debate and for the supp...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

129: Clause 15, page 13, line 21, after “outcomes...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 cc39-43GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 129 and 132 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Hun...

Lord Warner | 774 cc40-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to Amendment 130 in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley. I will al...

Baroness Walmsley | 774 cc44-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Warner, in arguing for this amendment. If these clauses ...

Earl of Listowel | 774 cc45-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before speaking to my amendment in this group I make clear that I support those noble L...

Lord Ramsbotham | 774 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I return briefly to Clause 15, which is a classic example of regulation too far. I agre...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 774 cc46-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak against Clause 15 and support the arguments of the noble Lords, Lord Wats...

Lord Wills | 774 cc47-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not delay the Minister’s response very long. I want to say a few words in suppor...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 774 c48GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to ask a very specific question. Could an exemption of the kind envisaged in the...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 cc48-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I concur with all the concerns that have been expressed so far about Clause 15. It is n...

Lord Nash | 774 c49GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 129, 130, 131, 131A, 131B and 132, in this group regarding t...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am no expert in this area, but I still have not got hold of an example of what the pr...

Baroness Walmsley | 774 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister replies, would he reflect on the fact that those of us who came to the meetin...

Lord Warner | 774 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

I really must help to reinforce this message to the Minister, because from what he has said so fa...

Lord Nash | 774 cc50-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I heard the noble Lord the first time. I have not got very far but if I am allowed to continue I ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 774 c53GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down— I thank him for his response—is not the requirement re...

Lord Nash | 774 cc53-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I think it would be much better to make that analysis when we have had the sort of meeting I am t...

Lord Ramsbotham | 774 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the thought of a meeting but I would be grateful if the Minister could ensure...

Earl of Listowel | 774 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply and for the offer of a meeting, which I am ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 cc55-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response but after almost an hour of debate, we have made ...

Lord Warner | 774 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Warner

130: Clause 15, page 13, line 28, at end insert—

“( ) Bef...

Lord Warner | 774 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not intend to move this amendment but I want to reinforce a point that has been made already...

Earl of Listowel | 774 c57GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Listowel

132A: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—...

Earl of Listowel | 774 cc57-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 133A and 133B. The first of these would ensure transpa...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 774 cc58-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Listowel’s Amendment 132A and his other amendments in th...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 cc59-60GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 133ZA in this group, in my name and that of my noble friend L...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 774 c60GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 132A, 133A, 133B and 133ZA would amend the consultation, application and rep...

Earl of Listowel | 774 c61GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply and my noble friends for their support for my amendm...

Lord Nash | 774 c61GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

133: Clause 17, page 14, line 20, leave out “its Local Safeguardin...

Lord Nash | 774 c61GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

134: Clause 19, page 15, leave out lines 42 to 44 and insert—

<...
Lord Dubs | 774 cc61-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dubs

135A: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause—

“Nat...

Lord Dubs | 774 cc62-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is concerned with the well-being of unaccompanied children whether they ...

Lord Ramsbotham | 774 c64GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, in his amendment and confirm that the issue of sha...

Baroness Pinnock | 774 cc64-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very pleased that the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has tabled the amendment and again raised the i...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 774 cc65-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not being here sooner, but I was the last person standing to chair the ...

Lord Judd | 774 c66GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend. His experience and commitment in this sphere are we...

Earl of Listowel | 774 cc66-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too thank the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for tabling this amendment. I join in supporting...

Lord Storey | 774 cc67-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have taught three unaccompanied children at my school—obviously this was before the c...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 774 c68GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, thank my noble friend Lord Dubs for bringing forward this amendment. The standa...

Lord Nash | 774 cc68-70GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for his amendment. I recognise that it seek...

Lord Dubs | 774 cc71-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. I want to read what he has said, because he has given us quite a l...

Lord Judd | 774 c72GC (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend agree that all we have said in debating his amendment would be much more opt...

Lord Dubs | 774 c72GC (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with my noble friend. That is why I have said that if as many children as possib...

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