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Housing and Planning Bill

Lords committee stage seventh day. Clauses 124 to 133 agreed to. Schedule 11 agreed to. Part 2 of 2.

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769 cc1989-2058 

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2015-16

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Housing and Planning Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 c1989 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Gardner of Parkes

84E: After Clause 124, insert the following new C...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 cc1989-1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is self-explanatory, and people in this House have heard me speak before...


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Lord Beecham | 769 c1990 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I sometimes think that the noble Baroness’s title is not really adequate: “Baroness Gar...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 cc1990-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not like either of these amendments. I want to make it quite clear that I think th...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 cc1991-2 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to respond to the point made. I think it is very interesting.

First, I should ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c1992 (Link to this contribution)

The answer is actually in the original deed. If on acquisition of the property and purchase, the ...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 c1992 (Link to this contribution)

The second to last point the noble Lord made was that you have to have 100%. The problem is getti...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c1992 (Link to this contribution)

When the noble Baroness purchased her apartment, she would have done well to ask her lawyer to re...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 cc1992-3 (Link to this contribution)

We have gone into this legally in great detail over many years, but the answer is no, you cannot ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc1993-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Gardner for her amendments. I agree that, as indicated in ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

Despite the provision that the Minister has referred to, unless you secure the agreement of every...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

That is true, but there are restrictions in place to allow for that. It still works.

3.15 p...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, that the wording might be defect...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

May I make a suggestion to the Minister? There is a reform that would be helpful. Some freeholder...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 769 c1996 (Link to this contribution)

That sounds like a good and constructive suggestion. Perhaps we can work on that idea. Certainly ...

Lord Greaves | 769 c1996 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

85: Clause 125, page 59, line 12, leave out “Regulations under ...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc1996-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we move at last to Part 6 of the Bill, headed “Planning in England”. Some of us thought...

Lord True | 769 cc1997-2000 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled Amendment 87A in this group. Since I have been silent a great deal throug...

Earl of Lytton | 769 cc2000-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much welcome the opportunity raised by this group of amendments to discuss this ...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 cc2001-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. As the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, sai...

Lord Beecham | 769 c2002 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to intervene, but surely the noble Baroness is moving on to other groups. Sh...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 cc2002-5 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise if I repeat myself as I find my place again.

As I have said, this would apply o...

Lord True | 769 c2005 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, will probably get the final say, because he heads the group. Having...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2006-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the care and detail that the Minister has put into her reply. In most...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 c2007 (Link to this contribution)

The questions raised by the noble Lord are subject to the consultation and bring up a number of i...

Lord Greaves | 769 c2007 (Link to this contribution)

That would be extremely helpful. I beg leave to withdraw Amendment 85.

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2007-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

87: After Clause 125, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2008-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this little group of amendments—in moving Amendment 87, I shall also speak to Amendment...

Lord Shipley | 769 cc2009-2010 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is my first chance to speak on the planning aspects of the Bill today, so I declar...

Lord True | 769 cc2010-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I follow a very great deal of what has been said by noble Lords opposite. It is absolut...

Lord Foster of Bath | 769 cc2011-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord in what he said, and I hope that in my very bri...

Lord Beecham | 769 cc2013-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join other noble Lords in welcoming the concept of neighbourhood planning, particular...

Lord Shipley | 769 c2014 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, does the noble Lord agree that he has in fact made a very good case for the neighbourho...

Lord Beecham | 769 cc2014-5 (Link to this contribution)

I think that we will shortly be spending a good deal of time on permission in principle and, judg...

Lord Shipley | 769 c2015 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord is very keen to talk about a place other than your Lordships’ House. It ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 769 cc2015-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not proposing to speak on this, but I want to support strongly the point made by ...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 cc2016-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a number of amendments have been proposed to give additional rights and powers to neigh...

Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 769 c2018 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister explained that resources were needed for these welcome developments. She gave exampl...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 c2018 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have an answer, but I just need to check it, so if I could carry on I will try to come ...

Lord Foster of Bath | 769 c2019 (Link to this contribution)

To avoid anyone who may be listening to our debate being put off neighbourhood planning by the co...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 c2019 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. Yes, I can confirm that what he said is absolutely right.

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 769 c2019 (Link to this contribution)

Just to be clear, my Lords, I have no problems at all where a city has a tradition or a history o...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2019 (Link to this contribution)

I am a councillor in Lewisham and Crofton Park. At the moment we are in the process of setting up...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2019-2020 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am trying to think what on earth has ever existed or exists now that is the answer to...

Baroness Parminter | 769 c2021 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

88A: After Clause 128, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Parminter | 769 cc2021-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like a number of other noble Lords, I welcome the initiatives by the coalition Governme...

Lord Best | 769 cc2023-4 (Link to this contribution)

I support the noble Baroness, Lady Parminter, on Amendment 88A, which would give parish councils ...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2024-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled an amendment in this group which covers similar ground but is not about neighb...

Lord True | 769 cc2025-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is very wide, albeit that it...

Baroness Parminter | 769 c2026 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not accept that, were one of these neighbourhood groups to bring forward an a...

Lord True | 769 c2026 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness knows, the question of costs is very much in the hands of the inspector at ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 cc2026-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I have told the House many times before, I am a local councillor in Lewisham. I repr...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 cc2027-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 88A and 101BGA propose a community right to appeal in various circumstances....

Baroness Parminter | 769 c2028 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that point but, with regard to recovering planning appeals, can she conf...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 769 c2029 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that that is correct, yes.

We already have a system which ensures that the views ...

Baroness Parminter | 769 c2029 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her reply and I thank all the people who have spoken in this debate. I a...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2029 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

89: Before Clause 129, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2029 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be relatively brief. Amendment 89 seeks to empower the Secretary of State by reg...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 cc2029-2033 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I need to make it clear that Amendment 89 is not Labour Party policy; it is my view and...

Lord True | 769 cc2032-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have an amendment in this group, which I suggested should be moved up in the in...

Earl of Lytton | 769 cc2035-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is appropriate to speak after the noble Lord, Lord True, because earlier on in our p...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2038-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments deals with matters relating to land. I have been left in no do...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2040 (Link to this contribution)

I see the point that the Minister makes about public bodies and land, but I can also think of lot...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 c2040 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a good point but I draw his attention again to the national planning policy,...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2040 (Link to this contribution)

Not really, no. If the land is owned by Network Rail and Network Rail has no intention of doing a...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2040-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is fair to say that we continue to work hard to press Network Rail to pick up that specific po...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c2041 (Link to this contribution)

Why should hope value be transformed into reality on the basis of a planner’s pen? The planner de...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 c2041 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I explained that earlier, by saying that we needed to look at both sides, and to use...

Lord True | 769 cc2041-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will withdraw the amendment. Indeed, I said before that I would. Do I withdraw the li...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 cc2042-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank everyone who has spoken in the debate today. I know that my noble friend Lord C...

Lord Shipley | 769 c2043 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Shipley

89ZA: Clause 130, page 62, line 43, at end insert—

“(6B) ...

Lord Shipley | 769 cc2043-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 89ZA I will also speak to Amendments 89AZA, 89AZB and 89AZE. I will...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2044-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, for his amendments. Before addressing them, I would like to...

Lord Shipley | 769 c2045 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply, which I will read carefully in Hansard. I hope that...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 769 c2045 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville

89A: After Clause 130, insert the...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 769 cc2045-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to move this amendment tabled in the names of my noble friends Lord Shipley and ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 c2046 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, for his Amendment 89A, which was spoken to by the...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 769 c2047 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response and I agree that there is a balance to be struck between ma...

Lord Greaves | 769 c2047 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

89AZC: Clause 132, page 64, leave out lines 25 and 26

Lord Greaves | 769 c2047 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 89AZC and speak to the rest of the group.

This is about t...

Lord Deben | 769 c2047 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the argument of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, superficially sounds extremely attractive...

Lord Greaves | 769 c2048 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can answer that before the Minister replies; I know that he may agree with the noble Lo...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2048-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for his comments. While I do not wish to repeat m...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2049 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the Minister a question before he sits down? I agree with the points made by the noble ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 c2049 (Link to this contribution)

I think that it would be wise to furnish the noble Lord with some more detail. For example, I hav...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 769 c2050 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Viscount. For a moment, I thought that he was going to mention regulation again...

Lord Greaves | 769 c2050 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everybody who has taken part in this short debate. One of the differen...

Lord Greaves | 769 c2050 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

89AA: Clause 133, page 65, line 6, leave out “or combined autho...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2050-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 133 allows the Mayor of London to step in and carry out default actions on plan-...

Lord Stunell | 769 c2052 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support the words of my noble friend Lord Greaves on these amendments...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2052-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Greaves and Lord Stunell, for their comments on this grou...

Lord Greaves | 769 cc2053-5 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my Lords—I am very clear about that as well. Having heard the Minister reply to the previous...

Lord True | 769 c2055 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord True

89B: Schedule 11, page 152, line 24, leave out “, revision”

Lord True | 769 c2055 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this hour I shall not venture on the patience of the Committee. I am grateful for th...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 769 cc2056-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord True for his interest in improving the Bill, and I recogni...

Lord True | 769 c2057 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I accept that and look forward with interest to the letter. I leave on the record the c...

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