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Trade Union Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 16 March 2016, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Neville-Rolfe and Lord Bridges of Headley.
Lords report stage first day.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

769 cc1852-1911 

Session

2015-16

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Trade Union Bill 2015-16. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 25 February 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Trade Union Political Funds and Political Party Funding Committee (HL) report.
Monday, 29 February 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1852 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

1: Clause 3, page 2, line 9, leave out from “are” to ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1853-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to be back debating this important Bill. Since our Committee stage, th...


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Baroness D'Souza | 769 c1854 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 1A or 1B by reason of pre-empt...

Lord Kerslake | 769 c1854 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kerslake

3: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

“Ele...

Lord Kerslake | 769 cc1854-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of the amendment is simple: to promote the greatest possible engagement, an...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 769 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting this amendment I will repeat, very briefly, a point that I made in Commit...

Lord Pannick | 769 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment for all the reasons given by the noble Lord, Lord Kerslake, an...

Lord Callanan | 769 cc1857-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will raise one or two drawbacks to the course of action outlined by the noble Lord, L...

Lord Balfe | 769 cc1858-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there seems to be a great reluctance among your Lordships to speak. I will not repeat w...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 cc1859-1860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not certain that I understand why no one is getting up on the other side on this m...

Lord Deben | 769 c1860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are moments in this House when I begin to wonder whether I have quite got the rig...

Lord Deben | 769 c1860 (Link to this contribution)

On that, I deeply disagree with my noble friend Lord Forsyth.

To be serious, the argument g...

Lord Cormack | 769 cc1860-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot resist responding to my noble friend. I did, indeed, argue against having tabl...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1861-3 (Link to this contribution)

This is an important debate, and I thank noble Lords who have taken time to contribute. I think t...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c1863 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening to this series of difficulties which the Government do not know the answer to. Is ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1863-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have explained that we already have the power, and we also have the will to move in t...

Lord Kerslake | 769 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for all the contributions to this debate. In the interests of time, I wil...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

4: Clause 4, page 2, line 34, leave out “reasonably d...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had an interesting debate on this clause in Committee and the noble Lords, Lord Coll...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1869 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

5: Clause 7, page 4, leave out line 9 and insert “sub...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1869 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Donaghy, made a powerful case that increasing the period of no...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1869 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

6: Clause 8, page 4, line 19, leave out from “period”...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1869-1870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be that I should have grouped today’s amendments, but they are all obviously dif...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 769 c1870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad that the Government have thought it right to do this. I felt strongly th...

Lord Scott of Foscote | 769 c1870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise simply to suggest that, where an important agreement, as this may be, is concern...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1870 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble and learned friend Lord Mackay for his comments. It shows the value of scrutiny ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1871 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

8: Clause 9, page 5, line 25, leave out “a badge, arm...

Lord Burns | 769 cc1871-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Burns

9: Clause 10, page 6, leave out lines 5 to 42 and insert—

“...

Lord Burns | 769 cc1872-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of Amendment 9 and of Amendment 10, which is consequential, is to put into ...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 c1874 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord advances pragmatic arguments in respect of existing contributors, but what is the ...

Lord Burns | 769 cc1874-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do not propose at all that they should be denied the opportunity to opt in. The issue that is b...

Lord Cormack | 769 cc1875-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was very glad to add my name to the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Burns, because ...

Lord Tyler | 769 cc1876-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am one of the signatories to this amendment and I am delighted to follow the noble Lo...

Baroness Drake | 769 cc1877-1880 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 9 and 10. Clause 10 has raised much concern and strength of feelin...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 c1880 (Link to this contribution)

Notwithstanding my considerable respect for the noble Lord, Lord Burns, and my noble friend Lord ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c1880 (Link to this contribution)

What does my noble friend mean by a generous period, because, clearly, if it were 10 years or fiv...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 c1880 (Link to this contribution)

That, truth to tell, is a matter of negotiation. My noble friend Lord Forsyth and I have often ne...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c1880 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my noble friend, but he cannot stand up and say, “We ought to have a more g...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 cc1880-1 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I can—I am not the Minister, nor am I in the business of negotiating. When we were on t...

Lord Maude of Horsham | 769 c1881 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am tempted to my feet for my first venture from the Back Benches in the few days afte...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 769 c1881 (Link to this contribution)

I think that it is the turn of the Cross Benches. The noble Lord, Lord Cormack, will be pleased t...

Lord Maude of Horsham | 769 cc1881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first apologise to the noble Lord for inadvertently interposing myself before him. As...

Lord Monks | 769 c1882 (Link to this contribution)

This is not the first time we have heard that unions are not honouring the Murray-King agreement ...

Lord Maude of Horsham | 769 c1883 (Link to this contribution)

It is an interesting idea that a voluntary agreement to move in a particular direction is then th...

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 769 c1883 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I put to him the point that the noble Lord, Lord Burns...

Earl of Kinnoull | 769 cc1883-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, had the great privilege of serving on the Select Committee of the noble Lord, L...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 769 cc1884-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I served on the committee of the noble Lord, Lord Burns, which he chaired in a consensu...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 769 cc1885-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise for having a somewhat croaky voice. My noble friend Lord Collins tel...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1888-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clauses 10 and 11 implement our manifesto commitment for a transparent opt-in process f...

Lord Dykes | 769 c1889 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way and apologise for intervening early in her remarks. ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1890-1 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I believe that manifesto commitments are important. This is an important and clear manifest...

Lord Burns | 769 cc1891-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for all the contributions to this debate. I am not surprised that so much...

Lord Burns | 769 c1892 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Burns

10: Clause 10, page 7, line 16, leave out subsections (3) to (5)<...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 769 c1892 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Stoneham of Droxford

11: Clause 10, leave out Clause 10

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 769 c1896 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that the amendment has been passed but obviously we will wait to see the Government’s r...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c1896 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Leigh of Hurley

12: Clause 11, page 7, line 32, leave out from “union” ...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 cc1896-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my amendment seeks to clarify the nature of the transparency sought within political fu...

Lord Robathan | 769 c1897 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief in supporting my noble friend Lord Leigh. I wish to bring up one ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1897-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government are committed to greater transparency for all contributing union members...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c1898 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend the Minister for agreeing to review and to come back at Third Reading and...

Lord Burns | 769 c1898 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Burns

13: Clause 11, page 7, leave out lines 35 to 42 and insert—

Lord Burns | 769 cc1898-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment also relates to the Select Committee. Clause 11 will require unions with...

Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 769 cc1899-1900 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 13. Paragraphs 101 to 107 of the Select Committee report dealt with...

Earl of Kinnoull | 769 cc1900-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the House for very long. When the committee met we noted that this cl...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc1901-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government are committed to greater transparency for union members in the use of po...

Lord Tyler | 769 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

As a member of the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee, I acknowledge the point the ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

I am just checking whether, if I withdraw my amendment, I can then retable it if, after considera...

Lord Burns | 769 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

I fear that I am even more confused than I was when I started. I fully understand why the Ministe...

Lord Burns | 769 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

I thank her very much. On that basis, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 769 c1903 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

18: Clause 12, page 9, leave out lines 16 to...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 769 cc1903-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we turn now to Clause 12, which would require public sector employers to log and publis...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 769 cc1904-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by saying that I have read the previous debates and have met a number of your L...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 769 c1905 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. I think we have made progress. The Bill will probably need to be a...

Lord Kerslake | 769 c1905 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kerslake

20: Clause 13, leave out Clause 13

Lord Kerslake | 769 cc1905-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the effect of this amendment would be to remove from the Bill the reserve powers propos...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 769 cc1906-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a co-signatory to the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Kerslake, I declare my...

Lord Dykes | 769 c1907 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my thanks to the noble Lord, Lord Kerslake, for moving this amendment, and to the...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 769 cc1907-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 20 and the arguments advanced by the noble Lord, Lord Kerslake. I w...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 769 cc1909-1910 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the contributions this evening. I will try to keep my remarks relativ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 769 c1911 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, could he just deal with the point about the difference between n...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 769 c1911 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we need to make sure that taxpayers’ money is properly accounted for, wherever it is sp...

Lord Kerslake | 769 c1911 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for giving his response and for the contributions to this...

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