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Immigration Bill

Lords committee stage fifth day. Clauses 44 to 65 agreed to, with clauses 48, 49, 52, 53, 62 and 64 agreed to as amended. Schedules 10 and 12 agreed to. Schedule 11 agreed to as amended. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 96).

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2015-16

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Committee stage

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Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Immigration Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventeenth report.
Wednesday, 16 December 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Immigration Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) seventh report.
Monday, 21 December 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighteenth report.
Thursday, 14 January 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee nineteenth report.
Wednesday, 20 January 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Immigration Bill 2015-16. As amended in Grand Committee.
Tuesday, 9 February 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0189
Tuesday, 1 March 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Henig | 768 c125GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber, the Committee will adjourn and resume after 10 m...

Lord Dubs | 768 c125GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dubs

239: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“Unac...


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Lord Dubs | 768 cc125-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are times when this country is faced with significant humanitarian challenges and...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 cc129-130GC (Link to this contribution)

It gives me the greatest pleasure to support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Du...

Earl of Sandwich | 768 c130GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can see the point of the Government’s plan to collect child refugees from the Middle ...

Baroness Neuberger | 768 cc130-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this excellent amendment. This is the least that we can do. As the noble Lord...

Lord Judd | 768 cc131-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad to speak in support of my noble friend—and he really is a friend. What h...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc132-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, much has been said about the part played by modern communications in the current confli...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc134-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to support my noble friend. The Government are to be applauded for the aid...

Lord Hylton | 768 c135GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment and I have just one question for the Minister. I wonder whether...

Baroness Sheehan | 768 cc135-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, and put on record how impre...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 cc136-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to inject a note of caution into the debate, which has been a little one-s...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c137GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, am I to understand from what the noble Lord said that ...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c137GC (Link to this contribution)

My concern is that, if we are not careful about this, we might encourage families to send childre...

Lord Judd | 768 c137GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I thought the noble Lord put his view very morally and I do not ...

Baroness Neuberger | 768 c137GC (Link to this contribution)

Could I add to that? The noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has put the specific number of 3,000 children in ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c137GC (Link to this contribution)

That 3,000 figure is the figure that Save the Children calculated specifically in relation to chi...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c138GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, eventually I will be allowed to sit down. There are some very serious points here. Ther...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c138GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we could probably spend four hours going backwards and forwards on this obviously impor...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc138-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not intend to speak at any great length. We support the amendment moved by my noble friend L...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 c139GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Green, spoke earlier. Is he a grandfather or a father? Has he children? Woul...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c139GC (Link to this contribution)

I am a father and a grandfather and of course I would do nothing of the kind, but then I am not i...

Lord Bates | 768 cc140-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Before I address the remarks relating to this amendment, I welcome the noble Baroness, Lady Henig...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c142GC (Link to this contribution)

On that very point, is the Minister aware that something like 40% of these unaccompanied asylum-s...

Lord Bates | 768 cc142-3GC (Link to this contribution)

That is possibly the case. The Prime Minister announced on 28 January that we are going to contin...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c143GC (Link to this contribution)

I asked the Minister a very specific question about the Independent on Sunday report. If he canno...

Lord Bates | 768 c143GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I will write to make sure that I get it absolutely right.

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c144GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister talked about the situation within Syria and potential relocation within Sy...

Lord Bates | 768 c144GC (Link to this contribution)

It is a fast-changing situation and needs to be balanced with what we are talking about, which is...

Baroness Sheehan | 768 c144GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister say a few words on his statement about most asylum seekers being 16 year-olds, a...

Lord Bates | 768 c144GC (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the noble Baroness says. The age verification of children is a key challenge facing a...

Lord Dubs | 768 cc144-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I am enormously grateful to all Members of the Committee who have spoken. With two exceptions, th...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c145GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not suggesting that any significant proportion of those now in Europe have been sent ahead. ...

Lord Dubs | 768 cc145-6GC (Link to this contribution)

That is a situation that we would have to consider if and when it happened. At the moment, we are...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c146GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

239BA: Clause 44, page 44, line 10, at end insert—<...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc146-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are now on to Part 6 of the Bill on border security. This is the first of a number o...

Lord Teverson | 768 cc147-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 241A in my name. At the end of the debate at Second Reading,...

Lord Marlesford | 768 cc148-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire. In ...

Lord Rosser | 768 c149GC (Link to this contribution)

We have an amendment in this group that calls for the Secretary of State to undertake a review of...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 cc149-150GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 240. The sheer scale of immigration is a major public concern. I ag...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc150-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I shall be brief if I ...

Lord Rosser | 768 c151GC (Link to this contribution)

Are the Government satisfied with our border security arrangements at the moment?

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c152GC (Link to this contribution)

We are always looking to improve them. We agree that security is paramount. If there are areas th...

Lord Marlesford | 768 c152GC (Link to this contribution)

On the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, how can the Home Office argue that there...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

On that last point, I do not know that one can blame just this Government, but I accept the noble...

Lord Marlesford | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall ask the Minister a very straightforward question. How is it that, when I was pressing for...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

The Home Office understands that because it takes advice from the law enforcement agencies. Of co...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord must clearly be too young to remember who abolished exit controls. It wa...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may correct the noble Lord. Exit checks to Europe were abolished by the Conservative Go...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

They were amended by this Government.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc153-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled my amendment simply to make sure that the Government and, in particular, the H...

Lord Bates | 768 c154GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

239C: Schedule 11, page 140, line 16, leave out from “means” to e...

Lord Marlesford | 768 c155GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marlesford

241: After Clause 46, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Marlesford | 768 cc155-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not apologise for raising yet again the simple point that it is necessary and urge...

Lord Swinfen | 768 c156GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of Lord Marlesford. I have relatives with dual Aust...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c157GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister ask his officials whether this apparent gap makes nonsense of the net migration...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c157GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I was in government I asked on a number of occasions how many British citizens hol...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc157-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. Perhaps I should first declare an int...

Lord Swinfen | 768 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend consider that, when someone has more than one passport, the other passport s...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

As I said, we are trying to make that information available by using electronic means, and we are...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

I think the important word is “essential”—operationally essential. If you ask that question, you ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall turn the question round. If you ask any law enforcement agency if it would like some info...

Lord Marlesford | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that my noble friend has reinforced my argument, by indicating that the inf...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

I must correct the noble Lord on one thing. The Passport Office collects information for foreign ...

Lord Marlesford | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c159GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

241B: Clause 47, page 45, line 29, at beginning insert “in...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc159-160GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are grateful for the consideration of the devolved Administrations and the interest ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc160-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 242, and I am grateful to all noble Lords who have added t...

Lord Swinfen | 768 c161GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been working in this House since the late 1970s for people with various forms of...

Lord Shipley | 768 cc161-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a signatory to the amendment. It is an extremely important issue because the assum...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc162-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I have three amendments in this group: Amendments 242C...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc163-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I will listen with interest to the Minister’s response to my noble friend Lady Lister’s amendment...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c164GC (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord. Clearly some important issues are raised here. The noble Baroness...

Lord Rosser | 768 c164GC (Link to this contribution)

I am asking how the Government intend to apply this. It is their legislation.

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc164-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I fully understand the nature of the noble Lord’s inquiry; I was just pointing out that the ratio...

Lord Swinfen | 768 c165GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may interrupt my noble and learned friend for a moment. What is the position ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c165GC (Link to this contribution)

In circumstances where there is provision for British Sign Language to be available, there will a...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc165-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not a lawyer, so I rise with some trepidation, but the Bill states:

“A public authorit...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c166GC (Link to this contribution)

Our position is that that is simply not required. Where you have somebody in a customer-facing ro...

Lord Swinfen | 768 c166GC (Link to this contribution)

I am awfully sorry, but I do not entirely understand what the Minister is saying. I cannot see th...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c166GC (Link to this contribution)

It appears that although we each purport to be speaking fluent English, we may not be communicati...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c166GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think there are two different debates going on. To pick up the point made by the nobl...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c166GC (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether I may respond briefly to that and then make a further observation. In circumstan...

Lord Shipley | 768 c167GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. I think that that would help because I had not understood what the...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c167GC (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord. He will appreciate that I, too, am concerned about whether it is ...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c167GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to be absolutely precise about this, I hear what is intended regarding the code of prac...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

I can indeed confirm that. That is the purpose of the provisions in the code of practice.

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

I quite understand the spirit of the noble Baroness’s third amendment, Amendment 242J. The Govern...

Lord Bates | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

241C: Clause 47, page 45, line 31, at end insert—

“( ) in N...

Lord Bates | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

242A: Clause 48, page 46, line 17, after “Part” insert “in relati...

Lord Bates | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

242D: Clause 49, page 46, line 42, leave out “or”

242E: Cla...

Lord Bates | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

242H: Clause 52, page 48, line 5, leave out “in both England and”...

Lord Bates | 768 c168GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

242K: Clause 53, page 48, line 18, at end insert—

““Wales” ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c170GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

242L: Clause 55, page 49, line 12, at end insert—

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc170-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise that it is late. This is an important proposal on which the House of Common...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c172GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in relation to skills, I draw the Committee’s attention to the report by the noble Baro...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc172-4GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has made some very interesting points on this issue. I wait with in...

Lord Bates | 768 cc174-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 55 provides a power to raise the charge, but details about the rate and scope of...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c175GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble friend responds on our amendments, I wonder whether the Minister can ad...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc175-6GC (Link to this contribution)

That is precisely what I was about to say. At present, the House is extremely nervous about allow...

Lord Geddes | 768 c176GC (Link to this contribution)

I assume that the noble Lord would like to withdraw his amendment?

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c176GC (Link to this contribution)

Just temporarily. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c176GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

242S: After Clause 55, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc177-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, special arrangements for foreigners from outside the EU, the EEA and Switzerland who we...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 768 cc179-180GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, for proposing this new clause. I am...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 cc180-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in firm support of this amendment. We have had two very powerful contributions,...

Lord Rosser | 768 c181GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I will be a little more guarded in what I say on this one. Some very strong and forceful ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc181-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My speech begins with the line that I have listened carefully to the arguments. I think the argum...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c182GC (Link to this contribution)

Exactly so. The collapse in the numbers is very good news. It illustrates just how bad the scheme...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

After that, it is only a matter of time before you get your passport. This is, in effect, selling...

Lord Bates | 768 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Green, makes some very good points. I was looking behind me for some inspira...

Lord Rosser | 768 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite clear on what the Minister said in the last part of his comments. Is he saying tha...

Lord Bates | 768 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me for trying to be reasonable. I was simply saying that this was an interesting argument...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 768 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

If this does come back, will the Minister share with the House how the Government intend to make ...

Lord Bates | 768 c184GC (Link to this contribution)

Her Majesty’s Government’s position is always credible and defensible. Most people would recognis...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c184GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I add a tiny bit of extra pressure on the Executive between now and Report and ask whether th...

Lord Bates | 768 c184GC (Link to this contribution)

Housing is outside the scope. I know that the effect on the housing market will be an interesting...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c184GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with the noble Lord in having to reply to this debate. I am fascin...

Lord Bates | 768 c185GC (Link to this contribution)

I will put a special plea to the business managers that we schedule Report then.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c185GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that the Minister will be able to write to all noble Lords on the Committee betw...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c186GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

242T: Clause 56, page 50, line 3, at end insert “but only wh...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c186GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope this will be quick. This is a probing amendment. Clause 56 is about fees, not re...

Lord Bates | 768 cc186-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the passport fee provisions in the Bill require that all Home Office passport-related c...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having listened to that explanation, it seems that the amendment pretty accurately refl...

Lord Bates | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

It is five days for domestic and 14 days for overseas. There are, of course, some elements of var...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

That is helpful, because to issue a passport in less than five days strikes me as going some, tho...

Lord Bates | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

The premium service is four hours: well worth the money.

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

I might hand it over to the noble Lord, Lord Green, to interrogate. What checks are undertaken fo...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

242U: Schedule 12, page 155, line 5, leave out para...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this stage I shall be extremely brief although I am very happy to talk further, out ...

Lord Bates | 768 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

Currently, both the local registration service and the Registrar General provide a range of servi...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

That is extremely helpful. I am happy to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Bates | 768 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

243: Clause 62, page 52, line 39, leave out “any provision of sec...

Lord Bates | 768 c189GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

245B: Clause 64, page 54, line 1, leave out subsection (3)

Lord Bates | 768 c190GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

line 3, leave out “Director of Labour Market Enforcement” and ins...

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