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Bank of England and Financial Services Bill [HL]

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 9 November 2015, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (first day, part one). Clauses 1-4 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

765 cc1851-1877 

Session

2015-16

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Bank of England and Financial Services Bill (HL) 2015-16
Wednesday, 14 October 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eleventh report.
Wednesday, 4 November 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1851 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Eatwell

1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“The...

Lord Eatwell | 765 cc1851-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as was evident in the speeches around the House at Second Reading, there is a feeling i...


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Lord Tunnicliffe | 765 cc1853-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Eatwell for this amendment, which takes us to the central ...

Lord Flight | 765 c1855 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when the Bill was published, I wrote to the Economic Secretary to the Treasury on this ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 cc1855-6 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by thanking noble Lords who have spared the time to meet and discuss aspects of the Bill....

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

Why has the court’s responsibility been taken out of the Bill and replaced with “the Bank”? The B...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we will come to address that. Responsibility for these functions still rests with the c...

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to those noble Lords who have spoken, and in particular to my noble frien...

Lord Sharkey | 765 c1857 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharkey

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 7, at end insert—

“( ) In secti...

Lord Sharkey | 765 c1858 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by thanking the Minister and his officials for meeting us to discuss the provis...

Lord Flight | 765 c1859 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey. If the number of independent...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 765 cc1859-1860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, not just for his amendment but for the a...

Baroness Kramer | 765 cc1860-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I completely support my noble friend Lord Sharkey in this. Although I greatly respect t...

Baroness Noakes | 765 c1861 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, that the Bank of England is an important ...

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1861 (Link to this contribution)

I respect the views of the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, very much but is she saying that the curr...

Baroness Noakes | 765 c1862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have absolutely no knowledge of how the Court of the Bank of England works and have n...

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill reeks of the feeling that non-executive directors are a nuisance. Everywhere, ...

Lord McFall of Alcluith | 765 cc1862-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to make a couple of points in support of the views of the noble Lord, Lord...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 cc1863-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in this short debate. The general theme has b...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

Yes—by two, to seven. We think that will strengthen it, because the governance of the Bank will b...

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

I am intrigued by the Treasury Select Committee’s recommendation of eight. Can the Minister tell ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

I fear I cannot. Can the noble Lord help us? The answer is, no, I cannot tell noble Lords that.

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could be helpful on that point. As the noble Lord will remember, this legislation is ad...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 cc1864-5 (Link to this contribution)

The balance would change if we do what the Chancellor has decided to do—to reduce it to seven—but...

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1865 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister remind us how many responses there were to that consultation?

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 c1865 (Link to this contribution)

There were not that many, but I cannot tell the noble Baroness the exact number.

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

I think the number was 14. Most people did not know it was there.

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

So clearly it was not a burning issue. As my noble friend Lord Flight said, no member of the cour...

Lord Sharkey | 765 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

Does that not make the point that it would give a clear majority to the external members?

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 765 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

It would also be considerably smaller than what we propose today—which is one of the problems bro...

Lord Sharkey | 765 c1866 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid we have not heard any kind of compelling explanation as to why this reduction should ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 765 c1867 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Davies of Oldham

3: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, leave out “Treasury” and...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 765 cc1867-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 3, I shall speak also to Amendment 4. Amendment 3 would ensure that...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 cc1868-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord does himself a great injustice by saying that these amendments are not e...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 765 c1869 (Link to this contribution)

As I indicated, my Lords, we tabled these amendments in order to clarify the thinking behind thes...

Lord Sharkey | 765 cc1870-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not believe that Clause 3 should be part of the Bill. Clause 3 abolishes the overs...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 765 cc1871-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, in his contention that the clause should not st...

Lord Eatwell | 765 cc1872-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I find this a somewhat naive and shocking part of this small Bill, in the sense that th...

Baroness Kramer | 765 cc1873-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make just a few comments, if I may. I join my noble friend Lord Sharkey, and the...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1874 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all the noble Lords who have made very powerful contributions and thoughtful po...

Lord Sharkey | 765 c1874 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister agree that it was the Bank itself that suggested that?

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 cc1874-5 (Link to this contribution)

That is my understanding. If I am wrong, I will correct myself.

The noble Lord, Lord Sharke...

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1875 (Link to this contribution)

I hate to stop the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, in his flow, but could he confirm that, under the pr...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 cc1875-6 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness points out, that would obviously be the maths. We will probably have to hav...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

Surely there is a world of difference between the phenomena of groupthink in either one of the po...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is clear that I still have some persuading to do. I would argue that those powers ha...

Baroness Kramer | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that the powers have not changed, but would he agree that who exercises the pow...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness rightly points out, obviously her maths is correct and there would be robus...

Lord Eatwell | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, having not been present at our discussions, sadly, three years ago, has not appre...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1876 (Link to this contribution)

Once again the noble Lord makes a powerful intervention. I am sorry that I was not here for what ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 765 c1877 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry. It should stand part of the Bill.

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