Enterprise Bill [HL]
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2015-16Legislative stage
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Wednesday, 21 October 2015
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Wednesday, 4 November 2015
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Proceeding contributions
My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber, the Committee will adjourn and we will resume af...
Moved by
Baroness Neville-Rolfe
53: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—...
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My Lords, this is the Government’s only amendment tabled for Committee. It has the effect of repe...
Moved by
Lord Stoneham of Droxford
53ZA: After Clause 25, line 3, at beginning insert...
My Lords, our first concern is that this is a blunt instrument to amend the previous legislation....
I shall also speak to our amendments and to the government amendment. I thank the Minister for ha...
My Lords, I disagree with the last point the noble Lord made. If the Government wish to propose a...
My Lords, I declare an interest in that I have a corporate finance business. We have not commerci...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for this useful discussion. The noble Lord, Lord Stoneham, talked a...
I will ask the noble Baroness a quick question. She said that this would be in the interest of th...
I will come to that as I come to my final paragraph, if I may. Perhaps I could first clear up one...
I will not interrupt the Minister regularly but should I understand it that this is a government ...
The Government have been in discussion with the ONS but this is a serious matter involving a majo...
Can I ask the Minister one follow-up question on that? If the Government found that it were possi...
The noble Lord makes a good point. It is clear to the Government that we cannot retain control ov...
Just to be absolutely clear: is the Minister saying that the principal, driving objective is to t...
We want the package to look right, so “thrown under the bus” is the wrong metaphor. But we said c...
I hesitate to cause more pain to the Minister but my noble friend Lord Mendelsohn has hit the nai...
I think I made it clear that there are a number of options regarding the share, but I had also ma...
That is an excellent response and I welcome it. I hope that we can find a way of showing the Mini...
I am glad we are making progress. Green investment, which I am not an expert in, as all noble Lor...
On that point, is an absolute assurance or guarantee required? Would the Government fetter their ...
I think I will have to answer as I have before: we cannot prejudice the bank’s status. I think th...
I am trying to hone this down to one particular point. The Minister has said that these are expec...
My Lords, I am in some difficulty because we are still designing the sale process. I know that th...
Can I just clarify one thing? I accept that the Minister says that she will withdraw her amendmen...
I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Cope; he was absolutely right that this debate should have come...
From this side, we thank the Minister for her approach to this. We want to be clear that we belie...
I am grateful to noble Lords for their courtesy. It is a bit like going to the gym, this afternoo...
Moved by
Lord Whitty
53ZC: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—
“R...
My Lords, we are about to move not to the gym but to the pub. After my previous exertions on this...
My Lords, I support these amendments so ably moved by my noble friend. Like him, I hesitate to lo...
My Lords, those of us who sat through the long reaches of the night on the Small Business, Enterp...
Perhaps I may tell the noble Lord that I am not a member of CAMRA and that I do not even like rea...
I am afraid that I have to disagree with the noble Lord. I am explaining why the background to th...
Given this rather large view of returns on the market, I have a quick question. If there were not...
Certainly. The noble Lord is a businessman to his bootstraps. He knows perfectly well that if you...
The noble Lord said he wanted to have good pubs and that he was worried about uncertainty in the ...
Of course I understand the pressure on tenants. But the noble Lord must agree that the pressure o...
Does the noble Lord realise that he has just made a very effective case for the argument we are p...
My Lords, the arguments have been very well put by the noble Lord, Lord Whitty. I support them an...
My Lords, we first intended to introduce these amendments as an expression of our happiness at th...
Before the noble Lord concludes, can he explain why we are going back over the managed pub issue?...
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, for that intervention. I shall make it very clear. We intro...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for triggering this debate with their amendments and for taking us ...
Does the noble Baroness mean that her right honourable friend met people prior to the publication...
My understanding is that she met with the pubs after the consultation, as, in turn, she will be m...
Was that figure not available on 28 January when the noble Baroness made that pledge? She said th...
I am sure that we had some measure of the costs available at the time. I am not trying to dispute...
I am probably unnecessarily confused here. Is the Minister saying that the burden on business was...
It is £600,000 for having the PRA in addition. I am sorry if I gave the figure incorrectly. I fel...
In the context of government expenditure, we are grateful for that but it does not really amount ...
Every little helps, as they say.
What assessment has that figure taken into account? As I read a statement from a company’s report...
This is a figure for the burden on business, so to that extent there is a parallel. Perhaps we ca...
Before the Minister leaves that point, how was it possible without PRA for a tenant to demonstrat...
My Lords, I am sure we will come back to this. I will take that point away and go through it agai...
My Lords, the idea that this is a good thing for small business and that a burden of £600,000 sta...
My Lords, I am not sure that there has been a complete understanding of what we are proposing. Th...
Is it not ironic that in working together with the previous Government to achieve a package that ...
My Lords, I think that we have been through the arguments. I understand the disappointment. Noble...
The noble Baroness has talked an awful lot about the consultation that has gone on this summer wi...
My Lords, my understanding is that PRA was not discussed but I will engage further in the process...
The noble Baroness played an effective defensive game on a very sticky wicket with a fair amount ...
Is the position not even worse? How is a tenant able to request a rent review under MRO without a...
Perhaps I can answer for the Minister.
As I understand it, some of the triggers that were outlined by the Minister at the previous stage...
I demurred from reading out the triggers because I did not want to labour the Committee with too ...
I am as anxious as ever to help the Minister out but I put the same question to her as I did to m...
Or if the price of beer goes up.
Or if the price of beer goes up.
My Lords, given the disappointment and concerns expressed and the lack of complete clarity as a r...
I thank the Minister for that. It would be useful if some of what she said was conveyed to us in ...
Moved by
Lord Mendelsohn
53ZE: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—
<...My Lords, I am pretty sure this will be significantly briefer. This is largely a measure to highl...
My Lords, this amendment is designed to protect small businesses from cyberattacks. I was really ...
As my noble friend is talking about the broad range of plans that the Government have, could they...
I am grateful to my noble friend, and I shall certainly make sure that people are aware of the po...
I want to make the following staccato points. First, we spend £856 million. Unfortunately, that i...
Moved by
Lord Mendelsohn
53ZG: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—
<...I am going to go for the record for the briefest-ever introduction of an amendment. This amendmen...
I do not want to delay the Committee. I think the Minister knows of my ongoing interest in the su...
Could the Minister help me on this too? I have had exactly the same experience. I think that peop...
I very much agree with noble Lords that it is important for consumers and businesses to have tran...
I thank the Minister for her comments. The one thing that comes across very strongly in this Comm...
I am delighted to say that our efforts continue. We are trying to make sure that, as it were, rea...
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town
53ZH: Clause 26, page 44, leave out lines 7 ...
My Lords, Amendment 53ZH is in my name and that of my noble friend, Lord Stevenson. I will also s...
My Lords, I inform the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to I cannot call Amendments 53Z...
My Lords, Clause 26 sits rather oddly in a Bill about enterprise, a bit like a carbuncle on the e...
My Lords, as housing associations have been designated as part of the public sector, I ought to d...
I am grateful to noble Lords for their comments. At the outset, I shall address the point that th...
I am desperately trying not to use the word “shameful”, but I am afraid that that is what I think...
Moved by
Lord Borwick
53ZJ: Clause 26, page 44, line 8, leave out from “of” to “does”...
My Lords, this amendment does not try to amend the purpose of Clause 26; rather, it would change ...
I thank my noble friend Lord Borwick for his support for the cap and for his interest in helping ...
Moved by
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town
54: Clause 26, page 44, line 9, at end inser...
My Lords, I apologise on behalf of my noble friend Lord Wills for his absence, which was complete...
My Lords, I put my name to these amendments and I am very happy to support them, but I confess th...
I thank noble Lords, including in his absence the noble Lord, Lord Wills, for tabling this amendm...
It is not in dispute that the awards which may be made at tribunals will not be capped. The conce...
I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low, for raising that point. It is important that I check t...
The noble Lord, Lord Low, calls himself underpowered and then he understands every jot and tittle...
Moved by
Baroness Donaghy
54B: Clause 26, page 44, line 9, at end insert “except wher...
In order to save time I will speak to the next group of amendments, if that is all right. There i...
My Lords, the amendments in this group are pretty crucial. In part, they take forward what we sai...
My Lords, this group seeks to delay the implementation of the cap, create exemptions or introduce...
I thank the Minister for dealing with all those amendments so quickly. First, I think that the fl...
Moved by
Lord Borwick
54BC: Clause 26, page 44, line 9, at end insert—
“(1A) Wh...
Moved by
Baroness Donaghy
54C: Clause 26, page 44, leave out lines 22 to 24
This will take three minutes. At least I hope I can be as quick as that. Not because this amendme...
My Lords, this is the amendment that the Government really ought to grab hold of if they want to ...
I thank the noble Baroness for her amendment. It is late but I will try to respond because the no...
I thank the Minister for her response, but she has not convinced me by one iota. However, in view...
Moved by
Lord Borwick
54CA: Clause 26, page 44, line 33, leave out “(1)” and insert “...
Moved by
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town
54J: Clause 26, page 46, leave out lines 12 ...
My Lords, this group of amendments has been spoken to in part by my noble friend Lady Donaghy. I ...
My Lords, we have received the committee’s report, and I take this opportunity to thank the commi...
I am sorry if this has not been done in quite the right order, but in view of what the Minister h...