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Charities (Protection and Social Investment) Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 23 June 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Bridges of Headley.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 5 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

762 cc71-116GC 

Session

2015-16

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Charities (Protection and Social Investment) Bill (HL) 2015-16
Thursday, 28 May 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee first report.
Wednesday, 17 June 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Barker | 762 c71GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barker

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 6, leave out “how” and insert “whe...

Baroness Barker | 762 cc71-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, good afternoon. I welcome the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, to his first Committee. No doub...


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Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 cc72-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a great deal that the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, said with which I agree. Pe...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 cc73-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with the noble Baroness’s amendment. I hoped that she would have i...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 762 cc74-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to welcome the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, to his first Committee. I am...

Lord Scott of Foscote | 762 c76GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, noble Lords need to bear in mind that each of the three words “how”, “when” and “where”...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc76-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I address the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, I should repeat my declarat...

Baroness Barker | 762 cc77-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the range of contributions, which showed just how important a t...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c79GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

2: Clause 1, page 2, line 15, at end insert—...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 cc79-81GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the Committee of my interests as a trustee of a number of quite small charitie...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 762 cc81-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, and the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, talked about concent...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 cc82-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to focus on Amendment 2. I do not doubt that it is an exceptionally well-m...

Baroness Barker | 762 c83GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wonder if I might ask the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, a question about her Amendment...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c85GC (Link to this contribution)

I believe we are still on Amendment 7. I will deal with that when we come to Amendment 11.

Baroness Barker | 762 c85GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I thought that they had been grouped together. I apologise to the noble Baroness.

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Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 c85GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will say a word or two about Amendment 7, which seeks to add a new “case K”, where:

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 c86GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will resume what I was attempting to say. Before we broke for the vote, I drew attent...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc86-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, let me start by echoing what my noble friend Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts said. We al...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 cc87-90GC (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly take up that offer. I want to make only a couple of comments. I thank noble Lord...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c91GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

3: After Clause 2, insert the following new ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 cc91-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is in a way part of the same issue—it is about where we put responsibility. In mov...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 cc92-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was slightly surprised to see that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead...

Baroness Barker | 762 c93GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, that I do not think anyone in this House feel...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

I have a point to make on the wording of the amendment, although it is not quite the same as the ...

Viscount Eccles | 762 c94GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall add a thought. I think that we are talking about charities that are deliberately set up t...

Lord Scott of Foscote | 762 cc94-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think I had an invitation to speak on this from my noble and learned friend Lord Hope...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc95-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following what the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, said in response to the last amendment,...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 c96GC (Link to this contribution)

I have a question, which does not have to be answered today. The Minister refers to the fact that...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc97-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend makes a very good point about the information exchange between agencies across go...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c98GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister, particularly on that second point. The reassurance that action for collecti...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 c98GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness has used the word “complacent”. She has used the phrase “red tape”. Nobody is ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 cc98-9GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is absolutely right. Are we doing it properly? Representatives of abused people ar...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 c99GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to make this one point to the noble Baroness. I asked the commission what its communicatio...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c99GC (Link to this contribution)

That is helpful. Having been reassured about the ability to take action where there is a collecti...

Lord Scott of Foscote | 762 c99GC (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if the noble Baroness could help me with one point. If a scholarship is set up for a par...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c100GC (Link to this contribution)

If they are the trustees of the school they have that responsibility now.

Lord Scott of Foscote | 762 c100GC (Link to this contribution)

They are not trustees of the school; they are trustees of the charitable trust that is funding th...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 762 c100GC (Link to this contribution)

The wording may not be right, but we are talking about where, basically, they are running an esta...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 c100GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hope of Craighead

4: Clause 3, page 2, line 39, leave out “privy to” an...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 cc100-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak also to Amendment 9 which is in my name and is grouped with Amendment 4. The amendm...

Lord Scott of Foscote | 762 c101GC (Link to this contribution)

I entirely support the amendments proposed by my noble and learned friend Lord Hope for the reaso...

Baroness Barker | 762 cc101-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a member of the committee, I want to support the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope. ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 762 c102GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by saying that the Opposition support these amendments as well. One of the issu...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc102-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I stand with some trepidation to debate with the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, on ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 cc103-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his very helpful reply. I take the point that we...

Baroness Barker | 762 c104GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barker

5: Clause 3, page 3, leave out lines 3 to 6

Baroness Barker | 762 cc104-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 10. I hesitate to suggest this, but these are perhaps t...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 762 cc107-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was sorry not to be able to take part in the Second Reading debate on the Bill, parti...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 762 c108GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just add a word to what the noble Baroness, Lady Warwick of Undercliffe, said by draw...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 762 cc108-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having served on the pre-legislative scrutiny committee, I understand the concerns abou...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 762 cc109-110GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we think this clause in its generality provides an important addition to the powers of ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc110-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very stimulating debate and I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady B...

Baroness Barker | 762 c112GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister moves on, the point that I made about Russia is that it is entirely possible ...

Lord Bridges of Headley | 762 cc113-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that point. The power would be discretionary and on a case-by-case...

Baroness Barker | 762 cc114-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his comprehensive and considered response. I say to other nobl...

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