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Deregulation Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 6 November 2014, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage fifth day. Clauses 45 to 57 agreed to. Schedules 13 to 17 agreed to, with schedule 13 agreed to as amended. New clauses (Lords amendments 69B, 69C and 70A) debated and withdrawn. New clause (Lords amendment 76) debated and agreed to. New clauses (Lords amendments 77 and 78) agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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Session

2014-15

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Legislative scrutiny: (1) Criminal justice and Courts Bill and (2) Deregulation Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee fourteenth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 14 May 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Deregulation Bill 2013-14 to 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 24 June 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Deregulation Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) fourth report.
Wednesday, 23 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifth report.
Wednesday, 16 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee ninth report.
Tuesday, 28 October 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Tunnicliffe | 756 c747GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tunnicliffe

62C: Clause 45, page 37, line 21, at end insert—

“(5)...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 756 cc747-751GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 62C, I shall speak also to Amendments 62D and 62E. There are four c...


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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc751-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for that speech and I am glad that he has so much enjoyed readin...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 756 c752GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister be kind enough to comment on the parliamentary involvement?

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c752GC (Link to this contribution)

I had better write to the noble Lord on that. However, I understand exactly what he is asking and...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 756 c753GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. I will read it in Hansard with great care and c...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c753GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

63: Schedule 13, page 155, line 26, leave out “ “Ch...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc753-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to move this largely technical amendment briefly. It does not alter practice ver...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 756 c754GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we do not oppose those amendments, which, as the Minister rightly said, are technical a...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c755GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may respond. A number of people over the age of 25 have indeed been through the apprent...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c755GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

64: Schedule 13, page 155, line 27, leave out “subs...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 756 c755GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Norwood Green

69A: Schedule 14, page 161, line 30, leave out p...

Baroness Andrews | 756 c755GC (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the noble Lord, Lord Young, it is agreed that there has been a mistake in the Marsh...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 756 cc756-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I welcome that clarification and apologise to the Committee for any confusion caused.

My Lo...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 756 cc757-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to contradict anything said by the noble Lord, Lord Young, because I know th...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 756 cc758-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I ought to clarify that, as I thought I had made clear in my contribution, this is obviously a pr...

Baroness Donaghy | 756 cc759-760GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, some noble Lords know that I spent 33 years at the University of London Institute of Ed...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc760-1GC (Link to this contribution)

The thought had not crossed the minds of any of us on this side of the Room that we might possibl...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 756 c761GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister’s contribution was worth while. I will read Hansard and look at what the Institute o...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c761GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

69B: After Clause 51, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Thornton | 756 cc762-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for giving me time to get here from the Chamber, where we had an ex...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c763GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was slightly shocked to discover, when I asked for a list of how many co-operative sc...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc763-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I look forward to talking to the noble Baroness about what else Bradford claims, but I am sorry t...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c764GC (Link to this contribution)

This amendment is about allowing co-operative schools to have the business form that makes them c...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c764GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the fact that there are now some 700 co-operative schools suggest that they are not suf...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c764GC (Link to this contribution)

Of course I will withdraw the amendment, and I thank the Minister for the offer to continue these...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c764GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

69C: After Clause 51, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Thornton | 756 cc764-5GC (Link to this contribution)

This amendment concerns nursery schools. The case for the change is that nursery schools would be...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc765-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend Lady Thornton. I declare an interest: I am president ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c766GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have returned to the issue of nursery schools myself as my grandchildren have reached...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c766GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply, and I do indeed think that we need to meet to discuss this. ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c766GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

70: Schedule 15, page 165, line 3, leave out paragraph 3<...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc767-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, tourism is a vital component of the UK economy, and is predicted to be a key part of ou...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 756 cc768-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall defend paragraph 3(3) for many reasons. First, it is only right that maintained...

Baroness Thornton | 756 c769GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall take the opportunity of this amendment to ask two other questions. What was the...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc769-771GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am conscious that the issue of school term times and summer holidays is particularly ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc771-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his reply. What happened to evidence-based policy-making? I...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc772-3GC (Link to this contribution)

There is no plot to reduce the length of the summer holiday. I fear that the noble Lord is sugges...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c773GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that peroration. It was very helpful. I think I have kicked the tyres...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c773GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Smith of Basildon

70A: Before Clause 52, insert the following new C...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc773-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are six amendments in my name in this group; in moving Amendment 70A I will speak...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c774GC (Link to this contribution)

I read this amendment as also covering taxi licensing, scrap metal dealers—the whole caboodle of ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc774-7GC (Link to this contribution)

On my reading of the amendment that is not its intention. If the noble Lord wants to carry out a ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc777-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I should not use the expression “happy hour” in this context, but we have spent...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 c778GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Smith on Amendment 70A. I will not comment on Amendment ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc778-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the LGA published Rewiring Public Services: Rewiring Licensing in 2014, calling for a m...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c779GC (Link to this contribution)

When the Minister intervened on me previously, it was because he thought that my amendment was si...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc779-780GC (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that it is about a much wider issue; we are in that sense at cross-purposes. I thought ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c780GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise; I am intervening rather than making my final remarks. I think that the Minister addr...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c780GC (Link to this contribution)

It is probably better if I write to the noble Baroness to make sure that I am absolutely clear ab...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c780GC (Link to this contribution)

That is helpful. That point needs clarification if we are to achieve what the Government say they...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 cc781-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak also to Amendments 71 to 75 to Schedule 16 to the Bill which are tabled in my name....

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc783-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, whenever I listen to my noble friend Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe speak on these issues, ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc784-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad that the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe, was able to get back fr...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c785GC (Link to this contribution)

I accept the noble Lord’s point that, taken event by event, or even instance by instance, we are ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c786GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the concept of having my hair cut and being offered a whisky at the same time had not o...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c786GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Mackie, would not have required a licence to offer a friend a glass of whisk...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c786GC (Link to this contribution)

I will take both points back and see how much this opens a door wider than intended. If it is pos...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 c786GC (Link to this contribution)

Are you going to mention the ancillary sellers?

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c786GC (Link to this contribution)

Certainly, because, again, the measure is intended for small providers of accommodation, so that ...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 cc786-7GC (Link to this contribution)

The answer to that is no. The great danger of these debates is that we pick out a particular inst...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc787-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that I can now give the noble Lord some further reassurance. I am told that, in the other...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 cc788-790GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a genuinely deregulatory measure. It will repeal Section 148 of the Licensing A...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc790-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as ever, my noble friend Lord Brooke has given us food for thought on this issue. I was...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c791GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate has ranged a good deal wider than liqueur chocolate. I stress that the amou...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 c792GC (Link to this contribution)

If the Minister were to check the notes that go with the Bill, he will see that the only people w...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c792GC (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly check that. I recognise that the wider issues that the noble Lord has raised abo...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c792GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Brooke raised a serious point. The Minister just said he was quite...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c792GC (Link to this contribution)

Certainly, I am very happy to do so. My understanding was that this was very much part of the Red...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c792GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord may be aware that Mars bars have reduced in size considerably in the past couple o...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc792-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I last ate a Mars bar about 40 years ago, so I had not noticed the shrinkage. The maximum...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c793GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for saying that he will write to us with some of the evidence. On...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c793GC (Link to this contribution)

I can only say that that surprises me. I think that the demand for liqueur chocolate remains smal...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 756 c793GC (Link to this contribution)

The important point I am trying to make is that, while there are not many prosecutions, it is a d...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c793GC (Link to this contribution)

I understand that that is the thrust of the noble Lord’s argument. It is a much wider point, but ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc794-800GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

76: After Clause 57, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc800-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come to a set of government amendments—Amendments 76 to 78, 97 and 98—which we are i...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 756 cc802-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group, in particular those that transfer powers to Sco...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c803GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, for his useful contribution to our debates. He cer...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc803-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank both noble Lords for those interventions. I am particularly grateful to my noble friend L...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c806GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is trying to have it both ways. He said that it would be for small-scale events, not...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 c806GC (Link to this contribution)

I accept that. I can assure the noble Lord that I will check that and write to him to reassure hi...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 756 cc806-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

77: After Clause 57, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 756 c808GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think it might be an appropriate moment for the Committee to adjourn.

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