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Water Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 6 February 2014, in the House of Lords, led by Lord De Mauley.
Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 24 to 50 agreed to, with clauses 31 and 32 agreed to as amended. Schedule 6 agreed to. Schedule 7 agreed to as amended. Part 2 of 2.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

752 cc312-358 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Water Bill. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 7 January 2014
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moynihan

115:After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause—

“D...

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc313-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 115, I wish to speak also to Amendments 116, 138, 139, 140, 141, 14...


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Earl of Selborne | 752 cc316-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Moynihan. Although he described these proposals as modes...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 c317 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to make a very brief comment, prompted by the remarks of my noble friend on the likely pos...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc317-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, last week’s de facto alliance between the noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, and me extends in ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc318-320 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Moynihan’s Amendments 115 and 116 would introduce a new duty on in...

Lord Moynihan | 752 c320 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am deeply grateful to the Minister for his comprehensive response. I have to say that...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c320 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

117:Clause 24, page 64, line 28, leave out “may” and inse...

Baroness Parminter | 752 cc320-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the fact that the Water Bill places the Government’s strategic priorities and...

Lord Whitty | 752 c321 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. New Section 2A(3) to be inserted by Clause 24 seems to diff...

Baroness Northover | 752 cc321-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Parminter for her amendment. She notes that Clause 24 on s...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c322 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for her detailed comments on my amendment and for the fact that she notic...

Lord Grantchester | 752 c323 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Grantchester

118: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Grantchester | 752 c323 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 118 is a straightforward requirement on companies to meet what ought to be se...

Viscount Hanworth | 752 c324 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I had occasion to remark at Second Reading, some water companies have been making ex...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc324-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, for introducing Amendment 118, which, as he ...

Lord Grantchester | 752 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply. I had not heard that all companies were already providing th...

Lord Whitty | 752 c325 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

119: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—

“Na...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc325-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 119 deals with the affordability question. As my noble friend said on the las...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for Amendment 119, which would insert a new clause...

Lord Whitty | 752 c328 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on this amendment, the noble Lord has misunderstood the nature of the proposition and d...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c328 (Link to this contribution)

I ought to interject. I did not say that all companies within a couple of years would have social...

Lord Whitty | 752 c329 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is even less reassuring than what I thought the Minister said in the first place.<...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c329 (Link to this contribution)

I thought I had made the point that we accepted that there will be some sort of cross-subsidy but...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but my proposition allows for that. It gives a push to companies to develop their social tar...

Lord Whitty | 752 c330 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

120: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—

“Pr...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc330-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 120 relates to a different issue, that of debt—I think I am on the right one....

Lord Spicer | 752 c331 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask the noble Lord whether his amendment covers the reverse—a situation where a custo...

Lord Whitty | 752 c331 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an issue, particularly for metered customers who have an estimated bill, for bo...

Lord Spicer | 752 c331 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord’s amendment covers the question of debt being carried through the regulatory syste...

Lord Whitty | 752 c331 (Link to this contribution)

Both the Minister and I will need notice of that question.

Baroness Parminter | 752 cc331-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the intention of Amendment 120, if not the intention of Amendment 122, which is...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c332 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a lot of sympathy with the thrust behind the attempt of the noble Lord, Lord Whi...

Baroness Byford | 752 c332 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, over the years that we have been debating water bills, this has been a constant theme. ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc333-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his amendments. Amendment 120 would add a new clause to ...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc334-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in relation to Amendment 122, the information the Minister has given us and his respons...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 c335 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

122A:After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 cc335-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a new peer—like a new entrant to the water industry—I have been trying to understand...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 c337 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend made a formidable speech at Second Reading in which she launched her as...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c338 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to give the Minister a little encouragement. We all recognise that this is a hop...

Lord Spicer | 752 cc338-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am inspired by my noble friend Lord Crickhowell, who said that his worry was that the...

Lord Moynihan | 752 c339 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I support the amendment proposed, although again I anticipate that the Ministe...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc339-340 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness on producing such an important amendment. I suspect t...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc340-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for her Amendment 122A, which would introduce a new statutory d...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 c342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the trenchant support I have had from this side of the House for my e...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c342 (Link to this contribution)

I thought I had said that they are on the website.

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

They are, but I was suggesting that we have a website that brought all the different things toget...

Lord Whitty | 752 c343 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

123: Clause 27, page 67, line 30, at end insert “or to meet wate...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 124. These amendments deal with the water resource manag...

Baroness Northover | 752 c344 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for tabling these amendments. As noble Lords know,...

Lord Spicer | 752 c344 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend for giving way. Is she not a little concerned that all this...

Baroness Northover | 752 c345 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that my noble friend shares everyone’s concern that the Government should take responsi...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc345-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am happy with those reassurances, in particular on underlining the need for the regul...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c346 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

125:Clause 31, page 76, line 5, at end insert—

“(7) For...

Baroness Northover | 752 c346 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Northover

126:Clause 31, page 77, line 11, leave out “a code” and i...

Baroness Northover | 752 c346 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 126, 130 and 148 to 152 are minor and technical amendments to ensure consist...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c347 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

127:Clause 32, page 78, line 34, leave out “or”

128:Cla...

Lord Whitty | 752 c347 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

134:Clause 42, page 93, line 31, after “complaints” insert “whet...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc347-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 134 and the other two amendments in this group deal with the issue of collect...

Lord Spicer | 752 c349 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is pretty standard stuff: first you legislate to weaken competition, which is the ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 c349 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I could seek clarification about the effect of the amendment, which it seems co...

Baroness Northover | 752 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his amendments, which, as he laid out, relate ...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for spelling that out. I should explain to the nobl...

Lord Whitty | 752 c351 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

137: After Clause 42, insert the following new Clause—

“Ge...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc351-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, rather late in the day we are approaching a rather important issue, which concerns the ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 752 c352 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we should look very carefully at this proposal for an increase in regulation. Water and...

Lord Moynihan | 752 c352 (Link to this contribution)

I support that view. I completely understand where the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, is coming from, b...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc352-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his amendments. I shall deal with the amendments in reve...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc354-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would not disagree with the Minister and the noble Baroness that Ofwat is toughening ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc355-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

147:Schedule 7, page 174, line 42, at end insert—

“3A I...

Lord Whitty | 752 c356 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

153:Clause 47, page 102, line 40, leave out subsection (1)

Lord Whitty | 752 cc356-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the Committee too long on this one. When I saw this provision, it jum...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 752 c357 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I support my noble friend Lord Whitty in his challenge to the Government and, ...

Baroness Northover | 752 c357 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I heard the earlier debate about consolidation and clarifying legislation, I thoug...

Lord Whitty | 752 c358 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that and her determination to write to me setting it out. The impo...

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