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Water Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 4 February 2014, in the House of Lords, led by Lord De Mauley.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 15 agreed to, with clauses 8 to 11 agreed to as amended. Schedules 1 and 3 agreed to. Schedules 2, 4 and 5 agreed to as amended. Part 1 of 2 .

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

752 cc106-164 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Water Bill. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 7 January 2014
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Whitty | 752 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 2, at end insert—

“( ) Granting ...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc106-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, compared with some of the amendments before us this afternoon, this one is pretty strai...


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Lord De Mauley | 752 cc107-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his Amendments 1, 45 and 121 on the important ...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 cc108-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I might take this opportunity right at the start of the Committee to make two g...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c109 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might quickly respond to that. First, what I should have done when I spoke first was to...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc109-110 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister and the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell. I have to say that if the no...

Viscount Hanworth | 752 c110 (Link to this contribution)

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Viscount Hanworth

2: Clause 1, page 2, line 13, at end insert—

“(8) Th...

Viscount Hanworth | 752 cc110-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also thank the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, for his very helpful approach in informing...

Earl of Selborne | 752 cc111-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interests, as I did at Second Reading, that, like the Minister, I am a far...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c112 (Link to this contribution)

My Amendment 95 is grouped with the amendment moved by the noble Viscount, Lord Hanworth. I wish ...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc112-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Hanworth and the noble Baroness, Lady Parminter, for drawi...

Baroness Northover | 752 cc114-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have no interests to declare except as a frequent user of water and sanitary faciliti...

Viscount Hanworth | 752 c115 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that explanation. She has told us that the market operator is intended t...

Lord Whitty | 752 c116 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

3: Clause 1, page 2, line 20, at end insert—

“(e) the Cons...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc116-7 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 3 is the first of a number of amendments that we will propose from the Opposition Front...

Baroness Northover | 752 c117 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for tabling these amendments. The Government recog...

Lord Whitty | 752 c117 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for those comments. She is right that these clauses deal with the rela...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c118 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Selborne

5: Schedule 1, page 125, line 29, at end insert “for th...

Earl of Selborne | 752 cc118-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to, I think, 32 amendments in this group. I am conscious of the fact...

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc119-120 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name has been associated with the amendments tabled by my noble friend. He set out h...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 c120 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is something to be said for learning from experience. The fact is, we have the ex...

Lord Whitty | 752 c120 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak only because the noble Earl, Lord Selborne, and to some extent the noble Lord, ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc121-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments, tabled by my noble friends Lord Selborne and Lord Moynihan, seek to i...

Earl of Selborne | 752 cc123-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not expecting a resounding round of applause from the Minister for these proposal...

Lord Whitty | 752 c124 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

9: Schedule 2, page 127, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) The ...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc124-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, some of the issues covered by Amendment 9 have been discussed in the previous group. I ...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 752 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the first time I have intervened in Committee, I declare an interest as a fa...

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc126-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a number of amendments in this group. Briefly, I am very supportive of the way t...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c127 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this group of amendments and I have put my name to my noble friend Lord Moyni...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc127-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I address this group of amendments, perhaps I may answer the noble Lord, Lord Ca...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc129-130 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in support of this principle. On this occasion, I f...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c130 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

12: Schedule 2, page 128, line 24, at end insert—

“(7A)...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc130-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take this opportunity to draw the attention of noble Lords to government Amendments 1...

Lord Whitty | 752 c131 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to be honest I do not intend to challenge any of the Government’s amendments, even thos...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c131 (Link to this contribution)

I assure noble Lords that we will deal with all the issues raised by the Delegated Powers and Reg...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c131 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

22: Schedule 2, page 131, line 17, leave out “terms and condi...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c131 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

36: Schedule 2, page 134, line 6, leave out “terms and condit...

Lord Moynihan | 752 c131 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moynihan

39: Schedule 2, page 136, line 24, leave out “section 66D agre...

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc132-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving the amendment, I shall speak also to Amendments 40, 42, 56, 57 and 59, as wel...

Lord Grantchester | 752 cc134-5 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to Amendment 105 in this grouping and agree with many of the comments in its other ...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c135 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Moynihan and welcome the tenor of the remarks of the nob...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc135-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as noble Lords have explained, the purpose of these amendments is to ensure that access...

Lord Moynihan | 752 cc136-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for participating in this exchange of views. I particularl...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c137 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Selborne

41: Schedule 2, page 136, line 36, at end insert—

Earl of Selborne | 752 cc137-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 41, I wish to speak also to Amendments 46, 58, 63 and 114.

We...

Lord Whitty | 752 c139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also on the amendment to which the noble Earl, Lord Selborne, has just refer...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc139-140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may start by saying that our approach to retail competition is being develope...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall come to the no-detriment clause in a moment. The earlier four amendments deal w...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c140 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Selborne

44: Schedule 2, page 139, leave out lines 31 to 38

Earl of Selborne | 752 cc140-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to special charges, which I have to admit were a bit of a mystery to me. I ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc141-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend would introduce changes to the way in which incumbent water companies’ ...

Earl of Selborne | 752 c142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I draw some comfort from my noble friend’s response. I think we all agree that special ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c142 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

47: Schedule 2, page 144, line 1, leave out from “with” to en...

Lord Whitty | 752 c143 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

49: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

“Sepa...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc143-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 97. I am asking the Committee to consider a rather more...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc145-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for tabling Amendments 49 and 97, which a...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc146-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, clearly I am going to withdraw my amendment because the noble Lord indicated in his ope...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

53: Schedule 4, page 146, line 43, at end insert—

“(4A)...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c147 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord De Mauley

60: Schedule 4, page 151, line 23, leave out “the code prepar...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

64: Schedule 4, page 155, line 25, leave out “fit” and insert...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

65: Schedule 5, page 162, line 9, at end insert—

“2A In...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

73: Clause 8, page 10, line 32, at end insert—

“( ) In ...

Baroness Parminter | 752 cc148-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

74: Clause 8, page 10, line 32, at end insert—

“( )...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c149 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 76. The amendments seek to give the strongest safeguard...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 cc150-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come now to one of those probing amendments which, as I said earlier, I have refrain...

Lord Whitty | 752 c151 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can accept quite a bit of what the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, has just said, but i...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 c151 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. I do not have the papers immediately to hand but I have it in mi...

Lord Whitty | 752 c151 (Link to this contribution)

If there is a change of use—for example, if you are a landowner with an extraction licence who no...

Baroness Northover | 752 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Parminter for tabling these amendments. Clause 8 plays an ...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c153 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her comments and I thank my noble friend Lord Crickhowell and the noble ...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c153 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

75: Clause 8, page 11, leave out lines 32 to 38

Lord De Mauley | 752 c153 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

77: Clause 9, page 19, line 47, at end insert—

““main c...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c154 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

79: Clause 10, page 29, line 5, leave out “in relation to” an...

Lord De Mauley | 752 c154 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord De Mauley

87: Clause 11, page 37, line 35, leave out “in relation to” a...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c154 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

96: Clause 12, page 47, line 40, at end insert—

“( ...

Baroness Parminter | 752 c155 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now touch on the issue of the absence in the Bill of any abstraction reform proposal...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 752 cc155-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems strange to be talking about possible water shortages and abstraction reform in...

Lord Crickhowell | 752 cc156-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, asked if it was right to discuss the possibility of droug...

Earl Cathcart | 752 cc157-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare that I farm in Norfolk, I live in a band H property, I have a bore hole for d...

Lord Whitty | 752 cc159-161 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 104 in this group, which touches on exactly the issue that the noble E...

Lord De Mauley | 752 cc161-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Parminter for moving her amendment and other noble Lords f...

Baroness Parminter | 752 cc163-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend the Minister for his detailed comments and the numerous colleagues around...

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