Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill
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Wednesday, 11 December 2013
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Moved by
Lord Dear
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 8, leave out from “in” to end of line 9 ...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I want to be absolutely clear on one thing: anti-social behaviou...
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I should perhaps remind your Lordships that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendme...
My Lords, my name has been added to this amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Dear, moved it with his ...
My Lords, I support this amendment; I have signed it and I believe that it is amply justified. As...
My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Dear. Like him, fo...
My Lords, I fear that I am about to break the consensus. I hope that in doing so I do not cause t...
I am following my noble friend’s argument closely, but could he give an example of the kind of th...
It would provide a remedy for myriad different circumstances—perhaps the sort of behaviour where ...
Surely that would be covered by the present law.
It might be, but the problem is that the test for harassment is fraught with imprecision, as is a...
So what is the objection to having harassment in the Bill?
The objection is that there is a risk that the hurdle will be too high and that the judge will sa...
Would “distress” not cover that?
The greater test will always include the lesser, but areas that may or may not be considered by a...
Could my noble friend deal with a major objection? An order can be obtained on hearsay evidence, ...
The question of hearsay evidence is important, and I am glad that my noble friend raised it. One ...
Is my noble friend saying that the procedure can be based on an anonymous complaint?
It can be on the basis of an anonymous complaint, though a judge will need to be satisfied of its...
My Lords, I am anxious to support the Government on Clause 1, because there is a great deal to be...
It is a marginally lower hurdle, but as I understand it—and the Minister will confirm—the choice ...
Will my noble friend forgive me? He has just said that he cannot understand why there should be a...
Of course I entirely accept the noble Lord’s point that those in social housing may not have opti...
My Lords, we have just heard an interesting speech from my noble friend Lord Faulks. I am sure th...
I am grateful to my noble friend for his kind congratulations, but I should say that I spoke on t...
One is tempted to call that “cause and effect”, but I will not.
This noble House concluded ...
My Lords, I should like to take further what the noble Baroness, Lady Mallalieu, said about who i...
My Lords, a point that has not been made sufficiently—I think that the noble Lord, Lord Dear, ref...
My Lords, I rise briefly to give warm support to this amendment tabled and so ably presented by m...
My Lords, in response to that I can say that frequently and over decades I have been annoyed and ...
I apologise for interrupting my noble friend and am grateful to her. May I ask her the same quest...
My noble friend is asking for examples of behaviour. It could be kids kicking a football around o...
Is my noble friend suggesting that all these examples should be capable of being stopped by the c...
Of course, if people feel threatened and their lives are badly impinged upon. That is what the Go...
Can the noble Baroness explain precisely how judges are supposed to interpret a threat and a feel...
I would say because of the context of the Bill, the clear policy underlying it and the evidence t...
When the noble Baroness uses the word “frightened” is she not arguing the case for maintaining th...
Of course, these things are all subjective to some extent and perhaps that was an inappropriate w...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, was right in this, at least in drawing attention to the sc...
My Lords, I support this amendment. The arguments for it have been set out so clearly and persuas...
My Lords, noble Lords who have spoken in favour of this amendment have produced a gamut of compel...
My Lords, I am not seeking to annoy or cause a nuisance, but I believe that it may well be the wi...
My Lords, it is my right to speak. People have mentioned cats and dogs; nobody has mentioned race...
My Lords, I wish to take very little time to make a point which is worth making and has not yet b...
My Lords, this is one of those debates that are quite special to your Lordships’ House. I spent 1...
Well, my Lords, this has been an interesting debate. I am not particularly thick-skinned, so I am...
Will the Minister take on board the fact that our concern is not with the Government’s purpose bu...
I shall be coming on to that, but I felt I had to place what I was going to say in some context—a...
I ask my noble friend the same question that the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, was unable to answer. C...
If I might say, it solves the problem of over-complex legislation. Having two tests for the singl...
I do not want to detain my noble friend, but I am asking for an example of the kind of behaviour ...
I do not intend to give any examples to my noble friend. I have given the reason why we have a si...
My Lords, we have been detained for something over two hours and I shall take no more than a coup...
As far as I am concerned, if I go into discussions between now and Third Reading, all the aspects...
I have listened with great care to this debate, and I was undecided when I came into this Chamber...
I was asked a parallel question by my noble friend Lord Forsyth. We are trying to simplify the le...
My Lords, if I understand the position that the Minister has taken up, he will have an open discu...
My Lords, with the greatest respect to the Minister, I do not think that we can go forward on a p...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
3: Clause 1, page 2, line 6, leave out paragraph (a)...
My Lords, in Committee, Clause 1(5)(a) was the subject of some debate. It and the related provisi...
My Lords, I can quite understand the reason why this particular safeguard or defence in injunctiv...
My Lords, perhaps I may come back to the noble Earl in advance of Third Reading on that to specif...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
4: Clause 1, page 2, line 18, at end insert—
“( ) For ...
My Lords, Amendments, 4, 5, 24 and 25 are all directed at a defence for an application for an IPN...
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Hamwee for her explanation of these amendments. S...
Do I understand from the Minister then that the normal range of civil defences would continue to ...
As I understand it, that is the case. I was going on to argue the question of defences because th...
My Lords, my noble friend is having a difficult enough day, so I reassure him immediately that I ...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
6: Clause 1, page 2, leave out line 19 and insert “A...
My Lords, in developing our anti-social behaviour reforms, the Government have, both formally and...
We understand the reasons for these amendments and for wanting to try to ensure that cases involv...
My Lords, I will clarity that. As was put down in the letter of my noble friend on the final poin...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
7: Clause 1, page 2, line 21, at end insert—
“...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
8: Clause 7, page 5, line 6, at end insert—
“(...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
9: Clause 8, page 5, line 31, leave out paragraphs (...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
11: Clause 9, page 6, line 8, leave out paragraphs (...
Moved by
The Earl of Listowel
12: Schedule 2, page 138, line 34, leave out paragraph ...
My Lords, I will speak also to the other amendments in my name in this group. Amendments 12 and 1...
My Lords, the noble Earl knows how sympathetic I am to his amendments, particularly in regard to ...
My Lords, I have not always felt that the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has addressed herself to i...
My Lords, I share the noble Earl’s appreciation of the late Paul Goggins, in my case from when he...
My Lords, I thank the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, for his generous and kind comments, which we app...
My Lords, I start by joining in the tributes being paid to Paul Goggins. I know that my colleague...
The noble Lord made the point about it being a contempt of court. Can he tell me in how many othe...
Off the top of my head, I cannot, but I hope that the noble Baroness will allow me to write to he...
My Lords, I am most grateful to all those who have spoken: the noble Baronesses, Lady Hamwee and ...
Moved by
Lord Taylor of Holbeach
14: Schedule 2, page 139, line 31, leave out paragra...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
16: Clause 12, page 6, line 36, at end insert—
My Lords, in Committee, my noble friend Lady Hamwee questioned whether it was appropriate for und...
My Lords, the bad news for the government Front Bench is that this amendment was put down in the ...
Moved by
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
17: Clause 13, leave out Clause 13
My Lords, this amendment follows up the debate in Committee initiated by the noble Lord, Lord Ros...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the government amendment. Any move towards increas...
My Lords, to clarify, as I said earlier in moving the amendment, an IPNA could impose the prohibi...
That would be irrespective of tenure? It would not apply purely to social housing?
As I stated earlier, the purpose behind the IPNA is that it would be tenure-neutral.
Moved by
The Lord Bishop of Ripon and Leeds
18: Clause 17, leave out Clause 17
My Lords, Amendments 18, 26 and 29 set out to remove the presumption that a child will be named p...
My Lords, I support the right reverend Prelate. I was grateful to the Minister for the chance to ...
My Lords, in Committee, I tabled an amendment on the clause which was an attempt to suggest a com...
My Lords, I add just a word based on my experience of how these things are dealt with in the cour...
My Lords, I will be brief. The Minister has been asked a number of relevant questions and I am su...
My Lords, this again has been a good debate on an important issue. Though it is a small part, it ...
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that response and I am at least partially reassured b...
Moved by
Lord Taylor of Holbeach
19: Clause 18, page 9, line 36, at end insert—