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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 9 December 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage first day.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Children and Families Bill 2012-13 to 2013-14. As amended in Lords committee.
Wednesday, 20 November 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-0308
Monday, 9 December 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Nash | 750 c590 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Contac...

Lord Nash | 750 cc590-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to be starting the Report stage of the Children and Families Bill. I kno...


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Baroness Hamwee | 750 cc592-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start where my noble friend the Minister started by referring to the series of meetin...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 c593 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest at the beginning of the Report stage as a governor of Coram and a...

Lord Nash | 750 c593 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I assure my noble friend Lady Hamwee that we will consult on this immediately after Roy...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 c593 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

2: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, at end insert—

“( ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 cc593-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I said that this was a good Bill; none the less, there are certain aspects of it with w...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 cc594-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have the other amendment in this group. Like the other members of the Select Committe...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 750 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, pendulums do swing; it is very difficult to find a middle way. We are all agreed that i...

Baroness Walmsley | 750 c596 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. Our intention ...

Baroness Whitaker | 750 cc596-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following the intervention of the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, with which I agree abs...

Baroness Eaton | 750 c597 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, some interesting points have been made by the previous speakers, but one of the things ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 750 cc597-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in Committee I spoke in support of Amendment 2. I quoted the Joint Committee on Human R...

Baroness Meacher | 750 c598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not planning to speak in this debate at all but I feel strongly that we need to s...

Baroness Young of Hornsey | 750 cc598-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble and learned friend Lady Butler-Sloss on this amendment, as I did in ...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 750 c599 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 2 and should like to comment briefly. What is strange is that it se...

Lord Storey | 750 cc599-600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak with no real expertise on this matter, although, as it happens, my fath...

Lord Elton | 750 c600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I learnt one lesson at the Home Office where I legislated for some years. When you make...

Baroness Benjamin | 750 cc600-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank the Minister for listening to concerns raised in Grand Committee and for...

Viscount Eccles | 750 c602 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are complicated matters. We need to come down on one side of the fence. Can prima...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 750 cc602-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in favour of Amendment 2, to which my name has been added, and very much suppor...

Lord Nash | 750 cc604-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems ironic that, on a day when we have been paying tribute to probably the greates...

Lord Nash | 750 cc605-7 (Link to this contribution)

Under the Government’s proposal, courts and adoption agencies will continue to have to have regar...

Baroness Whitaker | 750 c607 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for understanding my convictions, but I was attempting to argue aga...

Lord Nash | 750 cc607-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. I understand entirely the noble Baroness’s position. The guidance will also state ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 cc609-611 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken on what in my view is an important issue, although it...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hughes of Stretford

4*: Clause 3, page 2, line 32, at end insert—

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 cc611-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak to Amendments 4 and 5, which variously attempt to circumscribe th...

Lord Brougham and Vaux | 750 c617 (Link to this contribution)

I should advise the House that if Amendment 4D in this group is agreed to, I cannot call Amendmen...

Baroness Meacher | 750 cc617-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak briefly in support of Amendment 4, to which I have added my name. The n...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 c618 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have also put my name to Amendment 4. I am not too worried which of the various amend...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 cc619-620 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendments 4A, 4B, 4C, 4D and 6A in this group. They have already been trailed. ...

Lord Storey | 750 cc620-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot keep using the expression that I am a new person to your Lordships’ House, but...

Baroness Eaton | 750 cc621-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, the n...

Baroness Walmsley | 750 c622 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lady Hamwee.

A point was m...

Lord Nash | 750 cc622-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to those noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I am acutely aw...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 c624 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to clarify whether the Minister is withdrawing Amendment 6, as I thought h...

Lord Nash | 750 c624 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, if I accept Amendment 6A, I do not have to move Amendment 6, because it is covered, I believ...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 c624 (Link to this contribution)

For absolute clarity, is the Minister saying that he is withdrawing Amendment 6?

Lord Nash | 750 cc624-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am and I am accepting Amendment 6A.

In the period prior to March 2015, the Secr...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 cc625-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all Members who participated in this debate. It is an important issue and it is right tha...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 c626 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

4A: Clause 3, page 2, line 33, after “requiring” insert “one...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 c626 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

4D: Clause 3, page 2, line 43, leave out from beginning to e...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 750 c627 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must advise the House that if Amendment 4D is accepted, I am not able to call Amendme...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 c627 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

6A: Clause 3, page 3, line 2, at end insert—

“(2) In s...

Earl of Listowel | 750 c627 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Listowel

7: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause—

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Earl of Listowel | 750 cc627-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 8. Before I do so, I join in thanking the Minister for ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 750 cc628-630 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to propose Amendment 9. Perhaps I may do that first—I am not intending to cl...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

I hope it is convenient to follow the noble Baroness now on the sibling point so that these point...

Baroness Young of Hornsey | 750 cc631-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 10, I, like other noble Lords this afternoon, place on record ...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 750 cc632-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having listened to the comments on the other amendments in this group, I am very intere...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 750 cc633-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a lot of sympathy with these amendments, particularly Amendments 7 and 8 in the ...

Lord Warner | 750 c634 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s Amendment 9, which puts contact between siblings in the Bil...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 cc634-5 (Link to this contribution)

I support Amendments 9 and 10. When the noble and learned Baroness was talking, I remembered that...

Baroness Northover | 750 cc635-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for putting down these amendments and for their commitment in this ...

Earl of Listowel | 750 c638 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her careful reply. It was encouraging to hear what she said ab...

Lord Nash | 750 c638 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

11: Clause 9, transpose Clause 9 to after Clause 80

Lord Nash | 750 cc638-640 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the small government amendment I have tabled will move Clause 9 from Part 1 of the Bill...

Earl of Listowel | 750 c639 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I should rise. I was so focused on the previous amendment that I had rather mis...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 c641 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask for guidance as to whether we can now speak on Amendment 12, which the business p...

Lord Haskel | 750 c641 (Link to this contribution)

There is an error on the paper. The government amendment is number 11 and the amendment of the no...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 c641 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was completely confused. There was a moment when I thought I was getting out of contr...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 750 cc641-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, rises, I will say one or two words and not delay ...

Earl of Listowel | 750 cc642-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for informing us of the Government’s proposal to bri...

Lord Nash | 750 c643 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can confirm that we will lay an amendment at Third Reading and that we will produce i...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 750 cc643-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McColl of Dulwich

13: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—<...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 750 cc645-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will begin with the story of a boy from Vietnam whose parents needed to borrow money ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 cc649-651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is also on this amendment. This is a goal which the noble Lord, Lord McColl of ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 cc650-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was pleased and proud to add my name to this amendment. I do so having been pleased t...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 750 cc652-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McColl, referred to the Joint Committee on Human Rights. In Grand ...

Bishop of Truro | 750 cc653-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment and declare an interest as chairman of the Children’s Society. ...

Baroness Hamwee | 750 cc654-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have to say to my noble friend that in 2012 I was not entirely persuaded by a similar...

Baroness Northover | 750 cc655-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate has made very clear the commitment across the House to improving the suppor...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if I could ask the noble Baroness what she meant by regulations. She has been talking ab...

Baroness Northover | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

From authorities far higher than me, the answer seems to be yes—regulations.

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Baroness also confirm that discussions or consultations about the guidance have t...

Baroness Northover | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that they have indeed been consulted, and that consultation will no doubt con...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank everyone who has taken part in this debate, especially the noble and learned Ba...

Baroness Northover | 750 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are looking forward to discussing this further with my noble friend Lord McColl and ...

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